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On planets, the planets defense is times by 3 before being put into the damage formulas when a ship attacks it - IE, to have a good chance of invasion success on a planet with 1,000 defence a ship would have to have 3,000 attack.

I presume by the relatively low amounts of cloak we can put on planets, something similar applys when the game considers whether or not a player can scan a given planet - dose anyone know the ratio for this?

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Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:21 am
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I don't understand the question..


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The ratio is 1:1. If your scan >= planet cloak, you CAN scan it. The reason there is no multiplier is because there is already a finite amount of scan available (currently somewhere around 20k) while attack is technically infinite (due to rescued prisoners) vs a limited planet defense (space).

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Odd - I think from memory the most cloak you could get on a planet was about 3,000 from passive + about 1600 from strutures, if you use two cloakers, which at size 7 isn't really a good option... ah well...

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Passive cloak maxes at 3892 (repeatable) and off the top of my head I come up with 2220 from repeatable artifact structures. Total of 6112. With full legion bonus (50 people) you already have 12224 (13446 for 60 people).

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Darth Flagitious wrote:
Passive cloak maxes at 3892 (repeatable) and off the top of my head I come up with 2220 from repeatable artifact structures. Total of 6112. With full legion bonus (50 people) you already have 12224 (13446 for 60 people).


I think you forgot something

dark beacon (150) vesicle (150), 2x q accelerators (2x 150), iso bureau(400), 2x adumberate stations (2x 200), 2x resonance inhibitors (2x 250), 2x Klorvis Shroud Generator (2x 200), Void Barrier Chassis (110) Counter-Intelligence Nexus (150), dark pylon (90) 2x spy uplinks (2x 40) for 2330

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He might be asking about the times where you get the message about failing to fully scan the planet.

When you scan for a planet there are 2 checks in place
1 - your scan vs planets already on scan
2 - your scan vs planet cloak

the 2nd check is an unknown equation

We could figure it out if there was a message stating the planets cloak and our % chance of scanning it.

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Tree7304 wrote:
He might be asking about the times where you get the message about failing to fully scan the planet.

Yeah, that one ^, - I'm still a relative low rank, so i'm trying to figure out how much space to use to cloak my project planet, vs how much space to defense/population

When you scan for a planet there are 2 checks in place
1 - your scan vs planets already on scan
2 - your scan vs planet cloak

the 2nd check is an unknown equation

We could figure it out if there was a message stating the planets cloak and our % chance of scanning it.


Ah well, No forumla, Thanks anyway -- I don't suppose, just to give me an idea, someone could tell me their scan, and the cloak of the most cloaked planet they found?

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Littlefluffy wrote:
Darth Flagitious wrote:
Passive cloak maxes at 3892 (repeatable) and off the top of my head I come up with 2220 from repeatable artifact structures. Total of 6112. With full legion bonus (50 people) you already have 12224 (13446 for 60 people).


I think you forgot something

dark beacon (150) vesicle (150), 2x q accelerators (2x 150), iso bureau(400), 2x adumberate stations (2x 200), 2x resonance inhibitors (2x 250), 2x Klorvis Shroud Generator (2x 200), Void Barrier Chassis (110) Counter-Intelligence Nexus (150), dark pylon (90) 2x spy uplinks (2x 40) for 2330


You could also add on
Ergosphere Filter +20% cloak
Cross-Signal Restrainer +30% cloak
Stealth Screen +30% cloak

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Cendant wrote:
Littlefluffy wrote:
Darth Flagitious wrote:
Passive cloak maxes at 3892 (repeatable) and off the top of my head I come up with 2220 from repeatable artifact structures. Total of 6112. With full legion bonus (50 people) you already have 12224 (13446 for 60 people).


I think you forgot something

dark beacon (150) vesicle (150), 2x q accelerators (2x 150), iso bureau(400), 2x adumberate stations (2x 200), 2x resonance inhibitors (2x 250), 2x Klorvis Shroud Generator (2x 200), Void Barrier Chassis (110) Counter-Intelligence Nexus (150), dark pylon (90) 2x spy uplinks (2x 40) for 2330


You could also add on
Ergosphere Filter +20% cloak
Cross-Signal Restrainer +30% cloak
Stealth Screen +30% cloak


those aren't repeatable

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