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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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Great job Dysonians for the level 6 base kill! It sure is much tougher than level 5 bases that we killed with ease.. This one took us almost 30 minutes to take it down all with just one single legion.. The base defender had operators online and used up all ability points for many repairs to slow us down but that weren't enough to save it. Good game to that defender tho cuz it was most challenging encounter we ever faced far far tougher than any kind of NPCs that we faced. NPCs are utterly a joke and easy compared to level 6+ bases.. You can see the defender's attack/defense and it was crazy! We repaired our ships many times.. We had about 20 ships against the base and won even with so many repairs and few energy refills.. I went out and repaired myself and came back only to find out that base was destroyed so I didn't have chance to screenshot them so I asked one of our members to email me screenshot to share (I got 6 silver badges so it's confirmed that top 5 damage gets # of badges = defender base level).. I think it's the first level 6 base destroyed. I have no idea if other legions did that already cuz we haven't heard of the news yet.. 
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:17 am |
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Obscura
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:43 pm Posts: 580
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Sooo, uh, How does one kill when there is still hull on there? 
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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Obscura wrote: Sooo, uh, How does one kill when there is still hull on there? :?: evidently, he wasn't the one to do the final hit... his hit was only 14 dmg but there's 319 remaining... 30 minutes with 20 ships against 55K atk, 53K def, and 144k hull... pretty good... ...... after hearing that, i'd have to say lvl 4 and lvl 5 bases would be the optimum targets for badges... though bragging rights would be a good reason to target a 6 or 7
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SaintBamBam
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:45 am Posts: 68
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Impressive indeed.
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:29 am |
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blackknightmare
Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:41 pm Posts: 2283
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my question is this ... 50k def and u do 14 damage.... uhhhh since when does 7k attack doing 14 damage manage to defeat a base with 144k hull... AND all the repairs they probably did ( my gues is ... 8-10 at 100% ) so assuming minimum of 100k repaired and they do it 6 times that is 744k hull u ate through... at 14 damage a hit (once again for u other MAY do up to 200) if u do that kind of damage then it takes 53k hits,,,,, 5 energy per hit= 265k energy used to take this down (at 14 damage a hit) i smell something fishy...... care to explain?
also how did u manage to inflict 14 damage when it has 55k defense? 55k def vs 7k attack... u should be doing 5 damage a hit if that
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Annabell
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 7:33 pm Posts: 1988 Location: Aboard Blackwood Hall
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blackknightmare wrote: also how did u manage to inflict 14 damage when it has 55k defense? 55k def vs 7k attack... u should be doing 5 damage a hit if that The damage calculations don't appear to be comparable to fighting an NPC or PvP. I've got an Attack rating of just 516 in my standard two-cannon configuration and hit a Level 3 Base that had a mere 50 Defense for 236 Damage in a single shot yesterday.
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blackknightmare
Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:41 pm Posts: 2283
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Annabell wrote: blackknightmare wrote: also how did u manage to inflict 14 damage when it has 55k defense? 55k def vs 7k attack... u should be doing 5 damage a hit if that The damage calculations don't appear to be comparable to fighting an NPC or PvP. I've got an Attack rating of just 516 in my standard two-cannon configuration and hit a Level 3 Base that had a mere 50 Defense for 236 Damage in a single shot yesterday.the damage inflicted could be dif granted but how do u blow thruw 70ability points ( guesing) worth of full hull repairs AND all that defense in 20 minutes? its just not legaly possible if they come and say we used 20k energy each and bought 20 refills then sure ok. ( 20 total not per person) its just very far fetched
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:29 am |
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Quaritch
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:16 pm Posts: 1209
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Nocifer Deathblade wrote: Great job Dysonians for the level 6 base kill! It sure is much tougher than level 5 bases that we killed with ease.. This one took us almost 30 minutes to take it down all with just one single legion.. The base defender had operators online and used up all ability points for many repairs to slow us down but that weren't enough to save it. Good game to that defender tho cuz it was most challenging encounter we ever faced far far tougher than any kind of NPCs that we faced. NPCs are utterly a joke and easy compared to level 6+ bases.. You can see the defender's attack/defense and it was crazy! We repaired our ships many times.. We had about 20 ships against the base and won even with so many repairs and few energy refills.. I went out and repaired myself and came back only to find out that base was destroyed so I didn't have chance to screenshot them so I asked one of our members to email me screenshot to share (I got 6 silver badges so it's confirmed that top 5 damage gets # of badges = defender base level).. I think it's the first level 6 base destroyed. I have no idea if other legions did that already cuz we haven't heard of the news yet..  Does anyone else notice that he said he got 6 badges but in his screenshot it says 4?
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blakespon
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1441 Location: chilling inside of the epic Odyssey eating cookies
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wow congratulations
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:31 am |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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Quaritch wrote: Does anyone else notice that he said he got 6 badges but in his screenshot it says 4? does anyone else notice he said the screenshot was emailed to him by a legion mate? 
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Pertominus
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:21 am Posts: 1091 Location: really wants 2 b in LA....
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Darth Flagitious wrote: does anyone else notice he said the screenshot was emailed to him by a legion mate?  well considering the player who took the screen shot either photo shopped the back ground or he is actually a rank 529 with 6597 attack and 8429 defense..... with a minimum of 3479 hull  all sourced from the available info 
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fleet admiral gibson
Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:51 am Posts: 14 Location: nowhere because i dont exist
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it was proberly ThePeacemaker
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:05 am |
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Dysonian_Peacemaker
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:27 am Posts: 29
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fleet admiral gibson wrote: it was proberly ThePeacemaker +1 
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:07 am |
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nwngunner
Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:45 am Posts: 38
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I was online when they were attacking our base. Our repair was not doing full 100% repairs. We worked though what went wrong  Next time we will be even tougher.
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:15 am |
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Chris24markey
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:58 pm Posts: 1146
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Quaritch wrote: Nocifer Deathblade wrote: Great job Dysonians for the level 6 base kill! It sure is much tougher than level 5 bases that we killed with ease.. This one took us almost 30 minutes to take it down all with just one single legion.. The base defender had operators online and used up all ability points for many repairs to slow us down but that weren't enough to save it. Good game to that defender tho cuz it was most challenging encounter we ever faced far far tougher than any kind of NPCs that we faced. NPCs are utterly a joke and easy compared to level 6+ bases.. You can see the defender's attack/defense and it was crazy! We repaired our ships many times.. We had about 20 ships against the base and won even with so many repairs and few energy refills.. I went out and repaired myself and came back only to find out that base was destroyed so I didn't have chance to screenshot them so I asked one of our members to email me screenshot to share (I got 6 silver badges so it's confirmed that top 5 damage gets # of badges = defender base level).. I think it's the first level 6 base destroyed. I have no idea if other legions did that already cuz we haven't heard of the news yet..  Does anyone else notice that he said he got 6 badges but in his screenshot it says 4? For the love of god read his post.... this was not his screen shot. he got 6 badges, and I know for a fact he was doing more than 14 dmg cuz I was doing more than that and he has more atk power. He said if you would only read what he typed he had someone send him the screen shot cuz he was repairing at the time of destruction. Also it is a major drain on recourses, I think in that battle alone I used close to 60 repair drones. And had to use a few tri artifacts for energy. ps just look at the rank on the screen shot its only 529 proof it was somone elses pic and not his.
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Darklust
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:20 am Posts: 154
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I'd love to know the formula for how base def/attack behaves vs players att/def... clearly it's not the same as attacking a planet... btw good job against GP You wont take us pirates down though  2 hours in and no wheres near close hehehe Fixers = gods
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:03 am |
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Chris24markey
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:58 pm Posts: 1146
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Darklust wrote: I'd love to know the formula for how base def/attack behaves vs players att/def... clearly it's not the same as attacking a planet... btw good job against GP You wont take us pirates down though  2 hours in and no wheres near close hehehe Fixers = gods As you were saying.....???? Very well defended but we just wanted it really bad lol!!!!
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:09 am |
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Darklust
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:20 am Posts: 154
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Lol well we did get cheated out of 1 repair as our regular repair ability failed... and we were testing a few theories out with points (apparently all base buffs/traps are cageable, f*ing waste of points) so that was 1-2 more repairs gone... but you did take it fair and square (not that you wouldn't have either way, just would've taken longer lol) grats to you 
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:41 am |
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BinaryMan
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:40 pm Posts: 1671
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My observations on ours, 1) L5 base (less damage cap max tech may actually outlast a L6 in some cases) 2) Our 1 natural repair failed to do anything (bug) 3) Only 40% fixes / hull buff amount from 4 qualifying fixers / not optimized 4) Held out for 2.5 hrs (not bad, so NI base should tank you with full ability pts) 5) Not worth 200$ in GP to upgrade regular slots just to preserve resource bonus (that is the limit of the damage). Just another GP sink. 6) You have lost all 15x planet engineering privileges permanently which is worth more than the silver badges you just got. 7) You got crappy xp and wasted tons of cubes and repairs (although you don't care) 8) The hack trap is cage-able, thus absolutely worthless. In fact only hull buffs and attack buff are worth anything for base combat as people are discovering. 9) For most people, L3-4 bases are easy to farm, low tech and most not setup properly, if you just want silvers. 10) You are probably the only legion with average attack power to take down L6-7 bases, but it at least provides you a challenge for once.
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Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:04 am |
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Vekno
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:48 am Posts: 3900
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BinaryMan wrote: 6) You have lost all 15x planet engineering privileges permanently which is worth more than the silver badges you just got.
how so? im not sure i follow what youre saying.
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