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juiceman
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i know no one is overly shocked at that...disappointed im sure,, shocked ..no
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Mythra
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:29 pm
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Welp, hopefully he takes a gander at this thread before creating the 2 year + 3 month Charge.
tl;dr:
1) The linear increase of CTP cost is not worth it (and it probably stopped being worth it prior to the 80k upgrade -- you can craft your own planets for far less and get the same production benefits)
2) The unsustainability of the increasing CTP costs to upgrade this thing (e.g. 120,000 CTP / 250 CTP/hr = 480 hrs of NPC farming to pay for it. 480 hrs / 3 months = 5.3 hrs/day you have to play each day to pay for the upgrade.
3) Concerns over planet size constraints: Prismatic Foundation structure upgrades + Prismodyne Academy (x5) = too big for the planet's size?
4) What does the "Power" stat do? Is it the Philtery cap?
Am I missing anything else?
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ODragon
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:16 am
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 Sent another ticket about the inability to upgrade. This is the original ticket I sent 7/28. Quote: Multi-part question/comment/concern:
1) My Prismatic says Colony Age 2 Years and 3 months. It may be a rounding issue but when I click Prismatic Upgrade, I get the "This planet is completely immune to the effects of artifacts and special abilities." which I think means you haven't programmed the next upgrade. Could you please fix? I can get enough CTP to do the upgrade (barely, more on that later).
2) I did a little math and with the next upgrade, my Prismatic will have only 3 spaces left. I should be able to place 5 Prismodyne Academies but can't due to lack of size. Is it intentional that I shouldn't be able to place 5? Was there supposed to be a size upgrade somewhere that wasn't made visible?
3) Now that we may have to choose (based on what you do about #2), would you be willing to let us know what the upgrade will be? It was easy being a guinea pig when the upgrades were affordable and really, no reason not to make them. While I know you are not a fan of planet trading, for the 120K I need for the next upgrade, I would have to sell my good planets. Alternatively, I could buy 5-6 22x Colossal planets for 120K CTP and probably make more from them than the upgrade would give me. I would really like to make an informed decision before I drop that much CTP.
Now onto my (polite) rant.
I am a 7+ year player, one who has been active all 7 years, is still actively playing. I think I am pretty reasonable in what I think is good for the game. I believe that we've gotten to the point where the Prismatic upgrades are a burden because of how much the upgrades cost and how much harder it is for higher level players to get the CTP needed to make the upgrades.
I would like to suggest a compromise. This current upgrade requires 120k CTP. Since no one has done said upgrade, it would be a good time to revisit the cost. We've already put almost 200k CTP into the planet. At high levels, our bases have all the EM they need and other than a couple of reoccurring missions, we have a EM overload. Currently, EM goes for about 150:1 vs CTP. So maybe you could change the upgrade to 30k CTP and 13.5M EM. I think this would be more palatable going forward for all players and would allow us to see that there is some light at the end of the tunnel. It is still a significant amount of resources but not all in one place. As things go forward, it would make the upgrades more reasonable for all I believe. I also think it would have the added benefit of stimulating players to do the 80K upgrade who might not have before since they know the next upgrade cost wouldn't be so bad.
Thank you for taking the time to read this and mull it over. I'm hoping you will get back to me.
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senatorhung
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adding an EM cost instead of continuing to spike the ctp cost for prismatic upgrades would be AWESOME !
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ODragon
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senatorhung wrote: adding an EM cost instead of continuing to spike the ctp cost for prismatic upgrades would be AWESOME ! Not the response I expected from you actually.
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ODragon
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:16 am
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ODragon wrote: Sent another ticket about the inability to upgrade. This is the original ticket I sent 7/28. Quote: Multi-part question/comment/concern:
1) My Prismatic says Colony Age 2 Years and 3 months. It may be a rounding issue but when I click Prismatic Upgrade, I get the "This planet is completely immune to the effects of artifacts and special abilities." which I think means you haven't programmed the next upgrade. Could you please fix? I can get enough CTP to do the upgrade (barely, more on that later).
2) I did a little math and with the next upgrade, my Prismatic will have only 3 spaces left. I should be able to place 5 Prismodyne Academies but can't due to lack of size. Is it intentional that I shouldn't be able to place 5? Was there supposed to be a size upgrade somewhere that wasn't made visible? I just heard back today! Quote: You are correct - there is an issue with the space calculation that was intended to be addressed with a later codex, but we realized that we probably need to address it at at early part of the development. We're working on a fix this week to correct all of that. Thanks for your patience!
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Exterminus
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:46 pm
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I would really like to get this fixed. I have been trying to do the 120k upgrade since the Chuhn event started.
Unable to do so.
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ODragon
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 Prismatic Galactic Accord - Mining: 189, Research: 189, Power: 60, Artifact: 189, Bonus Production: 60% AP Currently: 15147.8 New AP: 18054.4 units/hr (+2,906.6) Upgrades structure to Prismatic Galactic Collective. Requires 5 Additional Space Planet Colony must be 2 years and 9 months old to use. Costs 180000 CTP and 30000 Energy Charges Remaining: 10
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Mythra
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:29 pm
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Only 180000 CTP to upgrade. Cool.
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CapitainePaul
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"Only" ???
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Thaumanovic
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CapitainePaul wrote: "Only" ??? It appears to be sarcasm.
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juiceman
Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:17 pm
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"appears"
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Thaumanovic
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Sam78
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:25 pm
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Way behind everyone else, but the proud owner of X1139 Still has that new planet smell and everything  _________________There is always a cell open... 
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sharrell
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:26 pm
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Have we ever found out what the Power is?
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ODragon
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sharrell wrote: Have we ever found out what the Power is? No and latest upgrade still broken.
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Thaumanovic
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sharrell wrote: Have we ever found out what the Power is? I feel like it may simply be cosmetic, similar to "Reverence +1" from the Throne of the Revered.
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ODragon
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Figured since Dan was updating other stuff, it was time to check the Prismatic upgrade and it worked. Was: Mining 40x Mega Rich 20862 units/hr Artifact 40x Mega Rich 27170 units/hr Research 40x Mega Rich 20956 units/hr Now: Mining 40x Mega Rich 24396 units/hr Artifact 40x Mega Rich 30605 units/hr Research 40x Mega Rich 24396 units/hr Prismatic Galactic Collective Mining: 219, Research: 219, Power: 70, Artifact: 219, Bonus Production: 65% Next Upgrade: Upgrades structure to Prismatic Galactic Core. Requires 4 Additional Space. Planet Colony must be 3 years Charges Remaining: 9 No cost listed but when I click it, it turns out he may have actually programmed it already! Says you need 200k CTP to activate. Might be able to get enough from Chuhn but no guarantees. Planet still locked at 40x all.
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Pitch Ninja
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ODragon wrote: Figured since Dan was updating other stuff, it was time to check the Prismatic upgrade and it worked. Was: Mining 40x Mega Rich 20862 units/hr Artifact 40x Mega Rich 27170 units/hr Research 40x Mega Rich 20956 units/hr Now: Mining 40x Mega Rich 24396 units/hr Artifact 40x Mega Rich 30605 units/hr Research 40x Mega Rich 24396 units/hr Prismatic Galactic Collective Mining: 219, Research: 219, Power: 70, Artifact: 219, Bonus Production: 65% Next Upgrade: Upgrades structure to Prismatic Galactic Core. Requires 4 Additional Space. Planet Colony must be 3 years Charges Remaining: 9 No cost listed but when I click it, it turns out he may have actually programmed it already! Says you need 200k CTP to activate. Might be able to get enough from Chuhn but no guarantees. Planet still locked at 40x all. No energy cost given? I would think 35,000 by pattern?
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ODragon
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Pitch Ninja wrote: No energy cost given? I would think 35,000 by pattern? Nope
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