For alerting one of our officers for a simple Battle Tab hit and non-stop aggression towards him from your legion, we are now going to hit back and hit hard. He gave your guys a warning and they pretty much said 'f*ck off'.
KOS has now been ordered on all Necromorphs and even planets are not safe anymore, as you have seen.
Just say you are sorry (apologize) and we will think about stopping.

This is the story from the person who made the battle tab hit, the person who hit back and then alerted, and my contributions to schooling the second person as to why you don't do that. you sort of have to start at the bottom and read up to follow the time line. (a few messages were deleted on skaara's comm before i could get them but you can infer the nature of the message from the reply)

rogue comm
2 hours, 16 mins ago From: Skaara
if i wanted to start a war then i would do more than that all i did was even the score cuz ur higher rank than me
2 hours, 26 mins ago From: Skaara
im really scaredand you start it off and u would do the same thing and so woulod any one else......i weakened you up then ran out of energy so i aleted legion to finsh u

miles comm
2 hours, 12 mins ago From: Skaara
ok its war but let it be known u start it off
2 hours, 13 mins ago From: Skaara
watever man i dont know cuz i dont know how u guys play cuz i met players who attack all battle tab guys then next day attack again so how am i suppose to know
2 hours, 14 mins ago From: Skaara
always asks help its how a legion works
2 hours, 15 mins ago From: Skaara
how the hell is it starting a war, i would have got allies and legions to gang up on you lot then its a war cuz every player who gets hit by a high rank guy
2 hours, 18 mins ago From: Skaara
ahhh piss off then i had enoguh of ur **** i tried to talk to ya and you obviously to stupid to realise my situation
2 hours, 19 mins ago From: Skaara
also the legion hitting him was to get him to back off and leave me alone cuz i dont know who he is and as far as i know he could do it all the time
2 hours, 20 mins ago From: Skaara
i ran out of health and energy so i told legion to finsih him off so wat did u expect?
2 hours, 21 mins ago From: Skaara
r u stupid......at the end of the day hes a lot higher in rank than me so i tried to fight back and got hes sheilds down and have little health left
2 hours, 25 mins ago From: Skaara
get the facts right UR guy attacked first so i weakened him then got legion to finish him off so get it right

skaara comm
2 hours, 11 mins ago From: Milesmailman
empty threat, i know your situation which is why we have rule DO NOT alert off 1 battle tab hit. if its repeat then alert. you should try it. now we war
2 hours, 15 mins ago From: Milesmailman
no, you just complained, its in your comm that it was just a battle tab hit. so you didnt need to worry about another hit. you called for needless help and start a war
2 hours, 17 mins ago From: RogueReign
you need some guidance! Dont start a war you cant handle off of a single battle tab hit!
2 hours, 18 mins ago From: Milesmailman
which means you should have sucked it up and walked away. you had to call for help like a girl and now you are starting a war. tell your friends that
2 hours, 19 mins ago From: RogueReign
Wrong, Dude! whave you ever herd of 1 on 1 PvP?! i didnt do anything more than 1 disable, and wouldnt do anything more if i got the same, but after an alert it is on!
2 hours, 20 mins ago From: Milesmailman
actually i have it right, we have a rule not to alert off battle tab hits, its a waste of time and starts needless wars. but looks like you want to start one
13 hours, 2 mins ago From: RogueReign
you alerted me because of a one time disable from the battle tab.... should not have done that, that was a mistake...
23 hours, 45 mins ago From: RogueReign
just a battle tab hit... no worries.

updates from comms....

9 hours, 53 mins ago From: RogueReign
Look here idiot, you alerted me. you should have hit me with more energy, or just taken the hit and accepted my post that it was just a battle tab hit and not worry......
13 hours, 19 mins ago From: RogueReign
BTW, you comment that you tried to disable me back doesnt hold water, you didnt hit any traps, and your legion mates did, all you did was use artifacts to soften me up
13 hours, 36 mins ago From: RogueReign
that is for your attitude, and ONE! battle tab hit does not start a war! ALERTING for one hit DOES! you are a fool to argue otherwize....

Hey oyyo one of my guys alerted greyslap or something ive told my guys to ignore it because it doesnt follow our alert rules but if any of my guys hit him its cuz they cant read and its not a act of aggression. just a fyi and if any do just message me about it.

Alright, thanks for letting me know.

should read.....To Sleepercell aka XxKraKKenxX and the Necromorphs...I just sayin

i'm confused - was this a single hit to clear him off the battle tab or was there a disablement? To me & i believe most others, there's a difference. Appropriate response for disablement is a matter of opinion of course.

i'm confused - was this a single hit to clear him off the battle tab or was there a disablement? To me & i believe most others, there's a difference. Appropriate response for disablement is a matter of opinion of course.

yes it was a disable.. a single 1 to 1 disable, with that message bla bla bla battle tab hit (disable) no worries...
and he claims he tried to disable me, but he didn't trip my traps, but he did use artifacts to soften me up for much, much bigger ships..
And this claim is just, (well I dont know how to say it without using profanity) well all I can say is he is an idot to have even tried to claim this:::
2 hours, 19 mins ago From: Skaara
also the legion hitting him was to get him to back off and leave me alone cuz i dont know who he is and as far as i know he could do it all the time

when i had posted this to his comm:::
23 hours, 45 mins ago From: RogueReign
just a battle tab hit... no worries.

And as you can see here with the next comm sent either way, he alerted me about 10 hours later:::
13 hours, 2 mins ago From: RogueReign
you alerted me because of a one time disable from the battle tab.... should not have done that, that was a mistake...
23 hours, 45 mins ago From: RogueReign
just a battle tab hit... no worries.

Hmmm. what the hell is this idiot thinking? saying he wanted me to stop. stop what? stop disabling him just once!

He got disabled and went whining like a little baby to whoever wipes his little teeny weeny coin purse...

He was not starting a war. yeah right...

O.k. personal opinion here. But if you go after someone and fully disable them it wasn't a one hit BT thing... Just sayin. Now to the defender.. "GROW A SET" If you get hit just once by someone you can feel free to return the favor or hack them. It's your choice. Alerting for a single hit though?????? GROW UP!!!!!!!!

Now in defense of the defender and I don't know either party so it's just my opinion. If you are going to attack someone and disable them you do need to be prepared to be alerted and deal with that appropriately. If you hit someone expect retaliation. Even if it comes in an alert and his allies come after you. Someone attacks a member of my Legion and I'm going to defend them. Especially since in most cases it's much larger players attacking smaller ones.

I'm guessing this was the issue here as well. The initial attacker said his ship is much bigger. So he used a lower ranked player to boost his stats???? Not cool in my mind. If one of my members attacks a lower ranked player and gets alerted I won't defend them. My rules for defense means if the players are within a few levels of each other then I usually find out who initiated what. If I see a substantial difference in rank say initial attacker is ranked 100+ and my ally is below 70 then I tend to suspect that someone is padding their stats. And it becomes open season on their ship. If you want to pad your stats with lower ranked players then expect their legion to come after you.

An alert only lasts 2 days at most. If you start it accept the retaliation. And move on. As long as you don't retaliate the damage they can do to you is minimal. I have more respect for players that go after other players their own size and rank.

In my mind both parties here need to move on. And not complain about the other persons reaction.

good points destro, and to be fair there was a 50 lvl difference between the parties involved but that isn't really padding the stats as you say. to be honest, most of my legion mates are not PvP players but they do test their mettle once in a while to see where their ship stands with upgrades or where they need improvement. almost all of my battle stats have come from defending my legion from aggressors and not actively using the battle tab. I have been attacked by players 100+ lvls over me and not alerted because it just isn't worth the trouble, our legion only alerts those that try to farm others repeatedly and not single battle tab hits. reading on the forum, it is not uncommon for battle to finish with a disable and not just a single hit to clear the tab so alerting and reprisals are poor form because i'm sure the other party has done the same thing to lesser players as well, it's the way of the game. what hasn't been mentioned is the fact that the original attacker only disabled and even out of courtesy posted that it was a battle tab hit and not to worry. the reaction to the disable was far out of proportion to a single disable, the original attacker was alerted (supposedly after the defender tried to retaliate and failed) and then was gang attacked with mass raids and hacks. also, if you read the timeline of the the comm logs, you will see that fair warning was given for the defender to back down and call off the alerted members or a war would ensue.

and i would add (even though it has little importance) our legion has a (bottom floor) standard of no more than 50 ranks below your rank for battling of any kind, except when at war and what starts a war ( like what happened here )

and sure i say just a "hit", i mean that as an attempt to disable or disable. "it is my preference of wording, sorry"

yes he "was" 48 ranks below me.. SO WHAT. really if he was 80 or 100 ranks below me what real difference would it make (none). it was his lack of a brain (idiot) that got this ball rolling. (refer to milesmailman's post, and all logs posted)
:::: Destro1328 :::: If you are going to attack someone and disable them you do need to be prepared to be alerted and deal with that appropriately ::::

That is exactly what was and is happening here and there...

Agreed guys. But you need post no defense of that here. We've all been there. And I've personally taken down people that attack my legion members.

My personal rule for BT fights is I don't go after people over about 10 ranks below me. Most of the time these aren't true fights for me. In a lot of cases if there is no trap in place I plow right through their shields and hull. In some cases even if they have something in place I can still chew through them. But I seek balance in my ship with a slight edge to attack over defense.

50 ranks below me is truly not worth the effort. I know I am capable of taking down bigger players and the rewards are far greater.

I've decimated a few lower level players as well, and I'm talking seriously lower ranked, But they earn it by repeatedly attacking a member of my legion and hacking and raiding after that.

I had one guy that messaged me after I disabled him 3 times and hacked him 10 and raided him 12. He claimed he was the defender and my member attacked him. (Something which was far from true). I told him simply you will leave my members alone or I will pad my stats further with your ship. He has since dropped off all of our ship logs.

I have no issue with someone testing their ship as you call it. You can do that without a disable though. Especially someone 50 levels below you. Granted it's a personal decision to play that way. But I feel it's the right one for me. I too have my share of stats from lower ranked players. But I also have a significant part of them from going after bigger prey. Over 60% of my kills have come from levels my rank or higher. 80% of my hacking comes from players over my rank. And probably 95% of my Raids are from those higher ranked players as well.


Again it's just my opinion on it. You do not need to justify your actions. If the mistake is on their part then simply convince them yourself that moving on is wiser then pursuing the issue. Most people around have no desire to get pummelled day in and day out around here (Hawkblade being the one known exception to that rule)

He could have tried hitting you and simply didn't do enough damage and didn't trigger your traps. I've have every trap I could have activated and still been hit a number of times and never knew who was doing the hitting. Just because you ahve a trap in place doesn't guarantee it's going to be set off at the first hit.

i wont whine, but id expect him pay back with 100 health points, meaning i would retaliate plus legion alert depending on enemy strength and legion

and that's what starts wars. (Oh i got hit on the battle tab and i cant get him back equally, so i'm getting my entire legion to give me retribution..)(and i'm going to play it up like i was in fear of continued attacks) "thats a big "BS"" - FOR A BATTLE TAB HIT - (hit - kill - disable - "WHATEVER")

And yes i know i'm beating a dead dog here...