Really there's been nothing but reasonable responses to your post here, despite the fact that your accusing us of cheating (which might be why some of it reads as "defensive"). But you're just coming back with useless innuendos now because you haven't liked that there's a really simple explanation for why stronger basing groups get dubs more often. No-one is trying to defend anything as "normal", everyone understands that it's a glitch that should be fixed. The only "normal" thing about it is that it's happening to everyone. Pursue a fix by all means but stop suggesting people are cheating somehow because there is a glitch, it is offending people and only makes you look butthurt and bitter.

Oh this gets funnier by the second. When exactly did I say EVER that your legion was cheating?? I said it could be caused by cheating, sure, and also could be a glitch. Now.. Ko-Chan has gone nuts. Never was this directed at your legion until YOU made it such, and yes that alone is a big red flag, but none of my doing. You explain things your way.. so be it. It is up to Dan to figure out. But until then this thread was supposed to be for people to post when the Triumv 2-6x's their base so Dan has a log of it, as does GL. But back to the facts.. no.. it is not happening to everyone. It is happening to no one, well except for 1 group, but only 1 legion out of that group seems to be butthurt that someone is mentioning it.

Myth:
"Hmm... looks to happening a lot when TU and friends lock a base. I sure hope they are not trying to exploit the glitch."
"True.. but as honorable as Darth and crew are (pushing for others to stop exploiting footballs, pushing for others to stop exploiting Exotica) I would hope they purposefully slow down hitting at the end, to avoid exploiting this glitch. Lest they be accused of exploiting a glitch themselves."
"True.. but as honorable as Darth and crew are (pushing for others to stop exploiting footballs, pushing for others to stop exploiting Exotica) I would hope they purposefully slow down hitting at the end, to avoid exploiting this glitch. Lest they be accused of exploiting a glitch themselves."
"To dispell?? I have the utmost respect for Darth and TU. They take the moral highroad. They go after footballs, they got Exotica changed because of exploitation. They would not be part of known exploitation in my mind. So, now that it is known, and yes continuing the same behavior would now be exploitation, I would think they would modify their behavior, and refuse to ally themselves with legions who would not also change their behavior as well.

Dunno if you meant me being Godly? But if so.. I try to be. I try to help and teach, do the right thing by my crew, and even enemies (giving mercy). Be fair, compassionate. Though often I fail miserably. Trying I think is the key."
"I have personally been in a BP group with Cosa, New Order, and LOiR (with Mento) and have not seen NEAR the number of doubles (never a triple, quad, or quin). It is fair to say your group is getting far, far more benefit than the rest of GL. That is reason enough to address and fix this."
"with this lag I wonder if autoclickers are being used on bases again?"
"Yes, but even one person with a "clicker type" device can cause a server freeze, causing you, them (many times), and/or others to register a "kill" causing a 3x. 4x. 5x. or 6x (what we are talking, not "dubs"). Not to mention the lag you yourself mentioned, which no other base hunting group (with more legions, and more people hitting, albeit lower damage) seems to have, well.. unless of course your group happens to be attacking a base at the same time (go figure)."
"Sorry you feel I crossed some "line" by trying to bring fairness back to GL, my deepest apologies for somehow offending you by trying to help all."

Keeps going and going and going....not even calling out the comments where you constantly egg on others to call us cheaters...

For someone with no butt hurting, you sure do whine a lot

"But back to the facts.. no.. it is not happening to everyone. It is happening to no one, well except for 1 group"

Yawn....

Trust me bro...the real people will sort this out, and you can keep whining, and the result will be the same. Dan will fix it, hackers will be banned, and you will still be a moron

Myth.. not sure how your battle group does things, but in the time ive been basing with these guys, we havent gotten any extra silvers, and were dropping 6's in under 2 minutes.. yesterday it was one minute twenty seconds.. i doubt they even got the pop up that they had been locked.. and no extra silvers. i didnt check but i think 70+ people were on the base, because i was going all out and ended up in 40 something.

How about we stop the petty arguing and lets see what Dan comes back with? If you have something useful to post feel free to contribute.

They are new to the group not use to the accusation people throw at them. Dysonians have had it for so long it is just background noise to them, GP and TU had their little 15 minutes of infamy, PotC...well come on who takes them seriously, especially the way they speak...

This has was brought up by the triumvirate first many many months ago. There have been several threads about it from various legions complaining. There have been many reports, many complaints, many examples of this glitch and people exploiting it. The fact you specifically put the triumvirate in the title accusing us of cheating more than everyone else is well childish. The only reason you are accusing us of doing it is because we do are better at it than most.

We are not going to stop playing effectively because you whine, it is up Dan to change things. I suggest you get better at it before he does, personally if you keep whining he will change it, but I rather he spent time on more NPCs and content for higher ranks.

Come on Myth, we can all read the thread title where you are talking about 2x disables. Moving the goalposts is just intellectually dishonest. So is selectively ignoring the fact that at least one non-Triumverate player has posted a contradiction to your claim that this is only occurring regularly for the Triumverate. I'm not even going to bother addressing all the other inferences you've made and accusations you've implied but then act like you're not being accusatory.

Fixing the glitch is worth posting a thread and getting input and momentum behind. Alleging a thread is about fixing a game wide glitch when you're singling out one group of players and throwing out general accusations like "... I wonder if autoclickers are being used on bases again?" is as sickening as the political ad model currently used in the US.

Well first I suggest ICBLF.. you reread my posts.

I said what you stated.. "Even a well know player (nothing to do with us) has said something along the lines of.. with this lag I wonder if autoclickers are being used on bases again?".. why, because it is true. That was said, and bears consideration because it is being noticed.

I also followed that with.. "So, though yes I feel there is something amiss, and possibly the leaders of these legions may not even know.. ie a couple members using autoclickers at the right time at the end so as not to be too high on damage, but ensure a 2-5x.".. why, because it may well be the case. I think that is VERY clear that I think no leader would be knowingly allowing this, but it could be happening, and they could well not know it.. so I would hope they would look into it, while we get reports on who gets what. Yeah, personally I feel there is a cheater somewhere. We have all found them at some point or another. That is not the fault of a legion, Or a leader.

But, yes I do find it funny that only one legion wants to come here, keep saying it is only from their awesomeness, and then atk me for posting about a topic that needs to be aired and dealt with. That in itself speaks volumes.

Kochan you weak minded fool. There was a time I had a little respect for you, but that is long gone. Your pattern is too predictable.. give your point, give your point again louder, and when the person does not buy your crap you turn into an azzhat and insult. Amazing how a credit card gives you the heart of lion (and no that does NOT make you superior to anyone), but you still have the brain of a donkey tho. You just had to begin the insults for no reason, what a big man.

Myth you should make this apart of your sig

All of that looks like the politicians, "I'm not saying, I'm just asking questions about his position...". Either you bring evidence of foul play, or you are just slinging mud hoping something sticks.



Didn't I just call you out for claiming that only the Trium was weighing in when (sorry if I missed someone else) KJReed from Home One also sees it happening with regularity? And now you step up your game with "only one legion wants to come here"? And you're asking me to read your posts more carefully? You can't even keep track of what your own position is, let alone read my entire post.


When you don't feel like addressing his points, you rally with an ad hominem, eh?

I should have known better, but didn't take long for the semi civility to vanish.

FFS... I lose internet (and cable, water and electric) for a few days and this crap comes up again? Seriously Myth, this is really starting to look bad on you. Slinging mud? I always thought you were above such things, but now after a second attack on our battle group like this... Everyone else has pretty well covered the basics so far. The simple facts are thus: Without a massive surge of GP purchases, Dan can't upgrade the servers to eliminate lag which is the driving reason why multi-disables are even possible. Maybe that's the point of the recent spate of GP refills for these special mission mods? Perhaps he should recode attacks to be turn based? That would fix this particular issue. With all due respect to KJ and H1's current battle group (H1, CN, IB and THB I believe) I have my doubts of how "regularly" they get multiple rewards. There is no other battle group that can field 40-50 HEAVY hitters, EVERY base lock. As of this post, our combined strength is over 9.5 MILLION. Unless the THB/CN/H1/IB group (yinz need a name) has a couple other partners, they're roughly half as strong as a group. Infinity? Ni? Yes, those guys all have several top flight ships, but top to bottom they aren't anywhere near as strong. They rely on just a handful of high powered ships to do the bulk of the work. Less ships hitting for massive damage means less possibility for high damage "kill" shots means less chance of getting multiple rewards. As I said in the first thread in which the semi-subtle accusations were made, you take ANY 5 top ten legions and put them together every eight hours for an extended period of time with our level of planning and organization and you WILL see loads of multi-silvers.

Just because the Dysonians do something, or their friends do something, does not mean it is a cheat. Remember a year or so ago when Dyso, TU and GP (the original Triumvirate) sank RoO, Ni and PA (the only other level 7 bases at the time) within 32 hours? OH MY GOD THOSE CHEATERS! We don't know what they are doing but they MUST be cheating SOMEHOW! Where was the uproar when Mentos of Infinity disabled us all in a fairly short span? What about when THB killed our bases (much longer interval)? No... Those people get congratulated. H1 has verified that we are not the only ones that get multiple rewards (thanks to KJ). Someone from a minor legion verified that they have gotten multiple rewards in the old 6 kill thread. Why are THEY not targeted for implications and innuendo?

Me and Myth are suspicious that these are similar circumstances, nothing more.

Well...that's more respect than I ever had for you...there should be a medal for the most ignorant crybaby in GL, it would fit nicely around your neck

So as you keep wasting time insulting us and looking silly...I'll just go back to getting a ton of badges off of your bases and eagerly await the next thread you start where you #$&*@ and moan for 3 pages...

Remember - when I first started EotS, and we had about 12 members, we had a battle pact together...until after the first base fight and SA's absolutely pathetic showing, and I broke it...anyone with half a brain (such as yourself) should understand why you don't get as many badges...ffs

We've always considered Storrmkyn good friends and fierce warriors, and their dismantling of Derpspace is a good testament to such. You must have caught them at a bad time as I can recall Stormkyn being right in the thick of the heavy base fights we've had.

See Anna... Fluffy wasn't sleeping in class a couple weeks ago when we covered this before, just staring out the window from time to time. He absorbed some of the lesson but not quite all of it. This whole thing was known about very shortly after base battling started. Short of making battles turn-based, there really isn't anything CAN be done about it with the current HARDWARE. How does one upgrade the hardware? Make more money. How does one make more money? Keep the people that have historically shown willing to spend money interested in your game so they continue to spend that money at the same time as you draw in more new players willing to spend. How do you keep the high ranks that have spent tons on the game interested? More NPCs and fresh content.

The thing that makes me LOL the most is how y'all think we are gaining this MASSIVE boost because of multiple base disables. We hit level 6+ bases three times a day every day. Been doing that for several weeks now. Before that, we hit exclusively level 5+ three times a day every day for MONTHS. You think we wouldn't have 2 Barrier Nexus artifacts on every planet even if we got single silvers every base? Oh ok, so that just leaves us more silvers to buy Exo-Clamps for our bases... Wait... Our bases still get disabled... Yep, massive boost we're getting.

From "one of the best NPC hunting legions", surely you must be aware of the complete difference between rates on doubles/triples on NPCs or on bases, right? If you've got 180 people hitting a Dark Command Nexus, we have a problem.

ive been hitting npcs at TU for over 2 weeks now, and i think the only ones that have been double npc rewards was when i was in a much smaller legion for a planet deal and it was two xrp batteries... not exactly game changing. although one of the players was a very low level and he needed both of them..
there has never been any coms chat about waiting to hit the DMC/DCNs or any of the other large elites all at the end at the same time, which WOULD be smart, BUT it would also be exploiting the game, and other then a planet alert and im assuming a purge, i havent seen any exploiting of game mechanics.