lol my ship sucks eh? xD

That's something of a joke considering I pound everyone around my rank and some upwards .. but sure, i'll roll with that.

They still have 2 theory engines active on one planet... fair enough i took that one from them they deserve to retake.


The planet i had taken from myself however, this one has 2 quantum analyzers active and i can deal -3 damage for -200 returned. It's large size.


I seriously doubt calling my ship crap is a good excuse though, I'm loaded out for max bear in attack currently (little defense, fair enough) but the fact i can only deal -3 damage with heavy quantum devs (majority around my rank have this, recently I've been dumping into energy since i sometimes use GP to rank faster).


So in a nutshell, the weapons at hand don't do nowhere near enough damage to a planet, and the cap is pretty much unreachable now for me.. if people defend it correctly. I don't exactly see how you can call this balanced.

Also as for bio vaps, don't you get 5 from missions and NPCs give you them also? Anyway, I'd say calling the planetary defenses balanced is a bit ridiculous. Oh, I did use artifacts btw, Orbital Mass thingy is a new one that reduces attack by 30%. Got plenty of ion storms.




I swear though, planets are far too difficult to take from players now. I mean, fair enough.. i agree if you're online and get your ship onto the planet along with legion buddies, cool, i can accept defeat their. But when a planet alone can stand against your ship... even with artifacts dropped on top of it... i don't think that's cool at all :/



Call me stupid if you want but i cannot get in line with your thinking of how this can be balanced by artifacts that give 30%/15% bonuses considering the defenses have been buffed so much, i think more artifacts should be thought up with better % to reduction that could counter-act the planetary defenses. Currently i don't really feel like sitting waiting for the guy to take off the defense structures and his legion buddies to get off the planet.

First off, no one cares about what rank you are now, or what tech your at either. Your not maxed on either and there lies your problem, a planet is always going to be a match for you. I gaurantee you most any of the dysonians, kaos, coth or a few other can take that planet still with relative ease. Come back when your tech is all maxed out, your a galaxy destroyer and you've poured thousands and thousands and thousands of rank points into crew because you didn't need decks anymore, and your sitting at 10k+ attack, then we can talk.

I could use 10 spots to get 10 thousand attack. That means you would need 20000 attack to get a 90% success invasion. I'm guessing the highest attack in the game is probably 10k right now and They might have a 20% chance. This is all assuming I don't just stack more structures on the planet to make it totally impossible and that would barely impede my production at all. My best planets still have 18 spots dedicated to cloaking and that won't even defend against a scan blitz of someone much lower level than me and it is entirely ineffective against hacking and it provides no actual defense.

It probably doesn't scale quite so ridiculously at low levels, but it makes the entire concept of defending a planet with your ship pretty pointless and planet defense structures insurmountable.

I could use 10 spots to get 10 thousand attack. That means you would need 20000 attack to get a 90% success invasion. I'm guessing the highest attack in the game is probably 10k right now and They might have a 20% chance. This is all assuming I don't just stack more structures on the planet to make it totally impossible and that would barely impede my production at all. My best planets still have 18 spots dedicated to cloaking and that won't even defend against a scan blitz of someone much lower level than me and it is entirely ineffective against hacking and it provides no actual defense.

It probably doesn't scale quite so ridiculously at low levels, but it makes the entire concept of defending a planet with your ship pretty pointless and planet defense structures insurmountable.

By this logic, you sir, are an idiot. So you're saying you need to be a Dysonian to be able to take a planet solo? LMAO

What a failure in the game balance that is... xD

Ok fine, since you want to resort to calling names, the only idiot here is yourself because you obviously have very little understanding how the game works, and can't see more than 2 inches past your nose.

10-12K might be the highest attack most of the top end ships have in the game...right now. But there is no rank limit in the game, there is no cap on ship attack based on crew, which can also be gotten by artifacts dropped from AP/hour and mobs. Give it 6 months and you'll have ships running around with 15k + attack, and mabye a few with close to 20K if people so choose to go that route. By setting the planetary defense at it's current level, Dan's bought himself about 4-6 months of time before he has to come out with another teir of sheilds tech, or some other means of increasing planetary defense. This is assuming he doesn't come out with another teir of gun tech before hand.

I could just research better weapons and not install the modules I can't afford if I wanted my planets to be invincible for another year until the weapon tree is expanded again. Barely anyone can afford the upkeep on weapons that even nearly compare to the planet defenses. You have to be ahead by about 5 research tiers how it is. It really only benefits higher levels yet all I see is lower levels content to never invade a decent planet for the rest of the time they can play the game just so they can hold onto some terra planet they will end up finding 10 of later on. After a certain point tactical officers are the only way to increase your attack and to get around this imbalance you would need THOUSANDS of levels of a completely lopsided strategy. It will simply never happen.

It makes fluxing a planet pretty pointless as well.

well the only invasion buff I've seen is to reduce a planets offense. So that makes defense about as cost effective for invasion defense with the added bonus that weakening the planet will require more energy, but the research tree doesn't go quite as far on shields and you get a building every other time instead of every time. reduced upkeep on weapons would be similar to nerfing planet defenses but it would also let people level faster with NPCs. I just think conquering a planet with no guards and 15% of its space taken up by defenses shouldn't be impossible against someone at your same research level or 2 levels below. A fix could also be done with more artifacts for invasion. Like something that raises your attack by 50% but only for invasion.

Ion Storm Charge - Reduces all defenses of an enemy planet by 15% for an hour.
Orbital Mass-Disruptor - Releases an intense electro-quantum disruption at a planet, lowering its attack by 30% for 2 hours.
Stryll Pathogen - 200 bonus to planetary invasions for 2 days.
Mutagenic Cartridges - Infuses your weapon with powerful virus, giving a 1500 bonus to planetary invasion. Lasts only a short time.

I don't know how the mechanics work but I can safely say that with 5386 attack vs a total (attack+defense) of 2122 the (failed) attempt had 61% success chance. Also, I am 99.99% sure the debuffs don't work on the "invasion defense" part of defense (i.e. Lazuli Pylon). Long story short, cloaking planets is useless just build defense and forever be at peace. I don't see much of a point in fluxes either to be honest.

I might have to agree, I'll use an example though:

8 Heavy Antiproton Cannons gives 2000 attack
With full Legion bonus, Antimatter mines give 1200 attack for 2 space

This means that, for 4 space, Antimatter mines give a planet 2400 attack, which I believe will make it impossible to invade for only 4 space, and you can add another one to a really important planet for 3600 attack. Basically, you can make it impossible for someone with the same tech level to take your planet for only 4 space.

That being said, this means you can actually defend your own planets so you don't need to worry about retaking them, which I like. I'm more worried about keeping my planets than taking others, and you shouldn't need to worry about retaking a planet unless you didn't defend it as well as it deserved, which is on you, or if somebody who has a lot more powerful tech took it, in which case you'd never have a chance of taking it back anyway.