Pre-Freeze - How am I doing?
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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That freeze I've been saying I'll do for ages? I decided "screw it" and have started it.
I have to keep some energy for my Mylarai ability...
FireStrmDragon the Annihilator
Rank 209 Mylarai Explorer Ancient Untouchables (36) Combat Reputation: Insane
Energy: Negligible Hull: 9557 Shield: 1114 Size Class: Heavy Leviathan Space: 1707/1709 Attack: 3354 Defence: 4563 Scan: 67 Cloak: 355 Cargo: 6605 Upkeep: 443.2M (Oh, how that is going to change...) Mylarai: Enrich Explorer: Scan +20%
Size Class Heavy Leviathan Weapons: Heavy Antiproton Cannon x8, Dominion Cannon - Mark III x4, Vortul Blast Phaser x4, Lazuli Mind Controller, Prototype Mech XV Energy: Dark Energy Core - Mark IV, Omicron Injector Sensors: Sha'din Supercomputer x2, AI Supercomputer Hull: Perfect Fermionic Armor x5, Kalvium Fortified Plating x2, BioMimetic Sealer II x4, Mylarai Plasma Lance x4, Vortul Plating x2, Protean Armory x3 Shields: Q-Phase Battery Array, Harmonic Resonator Cloaking: Triaxial Array - Mark II x3, CipherBot x2 Defenses: Energy Nullifier - Mark III x4, Quantum Overlay Engine - Mark III x4, Dark Complex Thruster x3, Scruuge X-Deflector x4, Octafari Deflector x4, Dark Ring Thruster, Trinity-Core Drive x2, Thrust Stabilizer
For now, my play style is to do not very much except hack and uplift. My research plan was to research Obviators (Mk. 3 - I have alot of space wasted on crappy modules because I'm simply maxed on guns/hull/defence) and then Thetas (there's a reason I'm Mylarai!) . I'd probably follow that up with Trans-Temporal Nacelles.
My rank points are going 100% TOs, because, as I say... I have enough decks for now.
My original aim was to reach 5k attack, 5k defence and 10k hull with no racial boosts at 200. I missed 200 for my Kalvium, and so I had to adjust it to 210.
Right now, my production is kind of lacking, but there is also not much I can do about it through levelling up, or even burning energy except the colonisation costs. I literally, just ran a scan blitz and I got about 5 planets worth taking that I actually could take. Particuarly my artifact is lower than I'd like, but is supplemented by AU's 57k/day from our amazing base. And, 4 out of 5 takeable good planets that I scanned were artifact. The other was something for me to Mylarai. Since when would you not find a single good unoccupied research planet in 180 planets?
Minerals: 3346/hour Artifact: 3104/hour Research: 2402/hour
Yes yes. They're crap. I know I need to bring my artifact up.
Also, I'm aware my ship stats are really mediocre right now. It's part of not having been able to find any good planets in a long while...
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:55 pm |
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mysterion
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:01 pm Posts: 1216
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Your ship stats are fine. Mylarai explorer could change after you have(or) done scan run. And change it to fixer or excavator(if its possible, but i doubt that). But apart from that and productions they are perfectly fine imo. Also if you ever come out of freeze ranking/ slow ranking you could up the energy 
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:14 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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I wish I could change from explorer, but I had only the GP for 1 race change...
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:27 pm |
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Follyuu
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:20 pm Posts: 1195 Location: The Milky Way
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Could be worse. Depending on how long your freeze lasts you could do a scan run or two and be thanking the GL gods that you were forced to stay explorer. Plus hack defense is nice when you are gonna be freezing.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:29 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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i dont understand why people freeze rank at such a low rank and poor production point.
why not rank up a bit, get your arti production way up and THEN freeze.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:06 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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Because once you reach a high enough rank, the point of freeze ranking is nil.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:08 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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it does make sense though.. my arti production is 10 X yours, so how many more prisoners am i getting then you... plus all the other perks of being higher rank. higher capacities and better npcs to hit.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:11 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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icarium81 wrote: it does make sense though.. my arti production is 10 X yours, so how many more prisoners am i getting then you... plus all the other perks of being higher rank. higher capacities and better npcs to hit. Yeah, but the point of slow/freeze is to PvP. Once you're say, rank 500 there are so many traps that PvP becomes alot harder. EDIT: I should also point out that I don't have much time to spend on the game at the moment anyway.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:13 pm |
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icarium81
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 3056
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but with the higher arti production you get a LOT more nulls.. ive got over 100 sitting around and im using about 40 to 60 a day when i do pvp.. roughly 2 or 3 times a week im maxing out the TM counter.. i will concede that if your going hardcore for the medals for raids and hacks and disables, its a LOT easier lower down. i should have done more earlier, but ive got 1400+ kills,550 hacks and 850 raids.. so its not that much harder. it just takes more energy to disable someone, but ive alse probably got a significant chunk more then you, at nearly 6K.
if your slowing/freezing because of lack of time to play, then by all means, RL does come first and as long as your happy, its your avatar, play as you see fit, its just not the way id do it. im going to attempt to slow/freeze very soon.. but ive tried 5 times now and its never worked lol
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:22 pm |
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mysterion
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:01 pm Posts: 1216
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icarium81 wrote: but with the higher arti production you get a LOT more nulls.. ive got over 100 sitting around and im using about 40 to 60 a day when i do pvp.. roughly 2 or 3 times a week im maxing out the TM counter.. i will concede that if your going hardcore for the medals for raids and hacks and disables, its a LOT easier lower down. i should have done more earlier, but ive got 1400+ kills,550 hacks and 850 raids.. so its not that much harder. it just takes more energy to disable someone, but ive alse probably got a significant chunk more then you, at nearly 6K.
if your slowing/freezing because of lack of time to play, then by all means, RL does come first and as long as your happy, its your avatar, play as you see fit, its just not the way id do it. im going to attempt to slow/freeze very soon.. but ive tried 5 times now and its never worked lol Reading that Icarium has got a point, freeze ranking has advantages and disadvantages but so has normal but playing normally is probably will be more fun. And having 200-300 energy must really suck how many kills can you get with that? As for normal ranking you have 1000+energy(usually) and it might take more energy to kill but you can actually kill more people that are at or below your strength. Maybe try normal play for a week or so and see what its like (if you want to of course). You will have to really think at high lv all that freeze ranking will mean nothing to some people. But i and no one can force how you want to play.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:02 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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Well considering that I'm hacking the amount of kills I can get on 376 energy is moot.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:13 pm |
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Nova149
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:38 am Posts: 297
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I agree with icarium, i've never freeze ranked, i ranked up about once a day. You're ship is pretty good, you got alot of hull for a non-fixer Switch to vygoid fixer to maximise your productions, mylarai is kinda useless ( same with kronyn ) , my mining is half of yours and my upkeep is double yours, i'm still able to fly fine. 
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:19 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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Nova. My mining is so high for a reason. As soon as I finish Obviators, I will be researching Thetacron cannons. Those will raise my upkeep to 2.4B. That is why I am Mylarai (which is not useless), and that is why my mining is so high.
Vygoid doesn't get fixer, which really just made everything you say look like you have no idea what you're talking about...
Plus, Kronyn>Vygoid.
Working on a base average of 36 production points, you can increase your production by 18 each time you use the ability. That translates to 63/week. That's a fairly poor set up, using only the most basic modules (3x+12). With a research production of 2402, Vygoid gives a 480 boost. Therefore, if you are Kronyn for 8 weeks, you will have a higher production as Kronyn, and you can then change to Vygoid.
Also, Kronyn means that you can have less research planets (you can make a 17x plasma in those same 8 weeks, which will produce rather more than a VM/R gas), allowing you to have higher artifact and mining.
By the same merit, Mylarai is effective for those who are not NPCing.
Ranking up wouldn't really help much anyway. I've only scanned enough planets to fill my slots, despite having scanned until the button greyed out. What is the point in ranking up if I cannot fill the slots?
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:40 pm |
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TimeManipulator
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:13 pm Posts: 2711 Location: Somewhere trying to find a way to increase the use of Time Manipulators.
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Nova149 wrote: I agree with icarium, i've never freeze ranked, i ranked up about once a day. You're ship is pretty good, you got alot of hull for a non-fixer Switch to vygoid fixer to maximise your productions, mylarai is kinda useless ( same with kronyn ) , my mining is half of yours and my upkeep is double yours, i'm still able to fly fine.  You have 1b worth of upkeep and Mineral Production far less that can support your daily income. The only thing that's keeping your ship from flying is your 95b~. Without it you'd be down grading your ship to a build that fits your upkeep. As for him being a Mylarai, it's a perfect fit since he's going for +12s and Heavy Theta's later on. Those things hurt your pocket once you update your ship/planet and being a Slow Ranking Mylarai will earn you enough Mineral Production in a long run rather than lowering your daily profit.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:44 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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SirKillsALot wrote: Nova149 wrote: I agree with icarium, i've never freeze ranked, i ranked up about once a day. You're ship is pretty good, you got alot of hull for a non-fixer Switch to vygoid fixer to maximise your productions, mylarai is kinda useless ( same with kronyn ) , my mining is half of yours and my upkeep is double yours, i'm still able to fly fine.  You have 1b worth of upkeep and Mineral Production far less that can support your daily income. The only thing that's keeping your ship from flying is your 95b~. Without it you'd be down grading your ship to a build that fits your upkeep. As for him being a Mylarai, it's a perfect fit since he's going for +12s and Heavy Theta's later on. Those things hurt your pocket once you update your ship/planet and being a Slow Ranking Mylarai will earn you enough Mineral Production in a long run rather than looking your daily profit. I have +12s. 
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:45 pm |
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TimeManipulator
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:13 pm Posts: 2711 Location: Somewhere trying to find a way to increase the use of Time Manipulators.
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strm avenger wrote: I have +12s. All three tiers? Currently working on my 1st. It'll take me 3.5 weeks to finish all three tiers.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:48 pm |
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BobB
Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:42 pm Posts: 82
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Production races are the best if your slow ranking I'm Rank 213 Kronyn with 5362 Research and i haven't taken a research planet in 50 ranks, so now I can sell my plasmas and get at least 3VL Toxics which boost my mining income by 2000 which helps when you have a 2B upkeep.Nova your mining vs upkeep is pitiful and when you start upgrading to +12(which i already did) you will have no money and go bankrupt.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:52 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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Yup... it took way too long.
I didn't think about (although I believe it was suggested) going Kronyn and swapping for Toxics, as I wanted the Kalvium platings anyway and they're pretty much at the end of the chain. I could not freeze, and change to Kronyn, but I won't be Mylarai that long anyway. By the time I finish Kronyn I'll have met my mining target.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:57 pm |
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TimeManipulator
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:13 pm Posts: 2711 Location: Somewhere trying to find a way to increase the use of Time Manipulators.
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BobB wrote: Production races are the best if your slow ranking I'm Rank 213 Kronyn with 5362 Research and i haven't taken a research planet in 50 ranks, so now I can sell my plasmas and get at least 3VL Toxics which boost my mining income by 2000 which helps when you have a 2B upkeep.Nova your mining vs upkeep is pitiful and when you start upgrading to +12(which i already did) you will have no money and go bankrupt. It can only go so far until bankruptcy hits you.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:58 pm |
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BobB
Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:42 pm Posts: 82
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I think for all slow ranking people around 200 is that you freeze-rank till 230 then go through the Talth chain then freeze some more at 350-400.
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Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:03 pm |
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