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zophah
Joined: Sat May 22, 2010 6:22 pm Posts: 1760 Location: On the bridge of the Vikiera
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you do know that that means your friend has done at least 14 offensive actions that day? I would not be suprised if he/she had that much rebutal.
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:28 pm |
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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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hunter wrote: that ship that is under attack by Noci has the following stats (not me, but a good friend) Disables: 14, Raids: 0, Hacks: -1
I'm surprised that hack dropped alot. I only hacked him/her (I'll say "it") 4 times cuz of fire walls. It has 18ish but now -1.. That shows that it was being hacked by someone else as well that I don't know yet. I was hoping just to duel it personally without anyone involved. Ah well.. I did raid it for 14 or so times however so it was all me I think.. Why am I on it specifically? I won't tell list of reasons (DOO administration knows why). It's just private between us. I'm not here to tarnish its image for the sake of DOO. DOO needs good functional administration to run without any handicap. DOO and this place doesn't need to see flame wars cuz it never is a productive one. I did get flamed by some people but that's very normal and expectable and I don't flame back at all simply cuz it's just waste of time and rather pointless.. I simply have to make some sacrifices (it is obvious that I cannot squeeze 300-ship in single 50-ship legion) to re-fit the organization to new in-game legion system for the long term plan. It is always my long-time motto for any MMO games over 2 decades is that my organization or guild or fleet or whatever must adapt and make changes to any game changes. If it doesn't adapt or change, it will simply die slowly to its doom.. It's exactly the same way as businesses that must constantly change to be in-sync with current markets or they will simply die off.. Making sacrifices are always viewed as most cruel way.. It's similar to CEO who made difficult decision to lay off 50% of its workforce just to survive and he got portrayed as meanest, cruelest CEO ever (he fully expects that and fully accepted his decision as a consequence for the betterment of his business) but he did the right thing just to save the business.. What I am doing is a simple downsizing process. If it doesn't work, I simply branch off to create one legion to start a fresh.. It is like a big, dying business that didn't change much will lead to some break-offs to create small businesses that will survive better in current business climate.. Business is business in GL business/warfare enivornment.. I learned long time ago not to feel attached to anything and/or anyone and I don't do favorism so I can be more flexible to change anything that can serve the group of people that I am leading better into the current time and the future without any heartaches or personal grievenances. I was asked why I gave up DOO so quickly? It was simply because I learned not to be attached to it. It is great organization that we worked hard to build but nothing is lost because it still has good people in it but just under different leadership system now so I am happy better than seeing it go total waste.  So my work isn't in vain at all.. I just need to move on. That's all. I do communicate with so many players on daily basis and I understood their plight and needs so I am making moves to satisfy those specific kind of group that are more attuned to my ideology. It's normal that not everyone are on same sync with my ideology and it's perfectly their rights to be part of the group that can share common goals. It's just that DOO goals and my goals aren't the same anymore so it's time to divide into two different groups with their own sets of goals. It's nothing wrong and it's very natural process of any changes over time..
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:35 pm |
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razorxxx
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:16 am Posts: 96
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 I want the whole of the whole to know this.We are stronger today than yesterday. And we will continue to do this. I have been deeply effected by this but will not let it stop the way i am leading. The strength is in the person not just the ship is what we go for.loyal members and we have seen alot of that. I am trying to understand but on with the game. We do not need a save the doo foundation. We have already saved it. I wish all that have left a good day and a great gaming experience.
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:56 pm |
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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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razorxxx wrote: :D I want the whole of the whole to know this.We are stronger today than yesterday. And we will continue to do this. I have been deeply effected by this but will not let it stop the way i am leading. The strength is in the person not just the ship is what we go for.loyal members and we have seen alot of that. I am trying to understand but on with the game. We do not need a save the doo foundation. We have already saved it. I wish all that have left a good day and a great gaming experience. Good.  I like to hear that. I believe that DOO is doing fine under current DOO administration without my further help so that's why I saw that it's best time for me to move on to build another legion that is more modern designed that follows current legion system where I can well served to meet specific groups' needs. You are one of nicest DOO officer with great heart that I can see that. You'll be very useful asset in family-style DOO legions.  You can see that I am business or military person type not a family person type. I stopped being a family person long time ago after 20 years of MMO experience that everyone comes and goes that I learned not to be attached to anything and just focus on goals easier. Business or military person doesn't fit well in the family style legions well anymore. It is nothing wrong with family style legions. It is also nothing wrong with business style legions as well. Everyone has their own preferences and interests so have various type of legions cater to everyone's interests then everyone wins.  The change can be unexpected but you all will get over it and go back to your routine daily tasks and enjoy the game once again. At least, it was an honor to serve DOO since day one when I was able to help to the point that I am nolonger needed. I never expected that DOO turned out to be with huge impact on GL in last 4 months. It's something that I am very proud of. I definitely have huge sense of accomplishments with DOO so far. DOO is what made GL what it is today with all new mechanics in place. I feel that my personal beta testing via DOO is mostly done and achieved during the GL beta phase.. I think GL is getting well polished. It just needs to expand more especially for high rank players to keep themselves motivated. Good news is that The Dysonians aren't really into PVP like DOO did.. They are mostly focused on NPC farmings and resource gathering. They aren't interested in picking on young players so they are largely safe.. They also couldn't simply cuz of minimum rank of 150 and up that most young players are out of battle tab's range anyway. Most PVP usually revolves around planet captures that presented too tempting to The Dysonians to expand their empire that is rather natural that so many players in various legions are doing the same thing.. Best defense is just to put lot of cloaks on key planets to hide from so many scanning ships of many legions.. Also, I instructed The Dysonians not to fight DOO as well. Because The Dysonians would become too powerful as a single legion, I would make sure that the power comes with new responsibilities to make sure it doesn't unbalance GL until other legions finally become powerful then we would finally ease our responsibilities.. I just hope that Dan would introduce lot of new high-rank contents to keep us busy. If Dysonians ever did some PVPs (there would be very rare anyway), it would be themselves alone without group up and gang upon unless absolutely must for defense only if it directly threatens the integrity of the legion. I expect that all Dysonians to handle their own affairs independently cuz each one is perfectly capable of doing things safely.. We definitely need more non-PVP stats for leaderboard so that'll incite some players motivation to do things non-PVP way and become #1 in something...
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Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:21 pm |
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Marineboy1969
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:28 pm Posts: 99
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We definitely need more non-PVP stats for leaderboard so that'll incite some players motivation to do things non-PVP way and become #1 in something..
A good suggestion
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:26 am |
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Chris24markey
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:58 pm Posts: 1146
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I was shocked when I logged in to see everything had changed and i was booted off the DOO web page with no good bye or warnings. So thanks glad I was there to support you all but I see were things are at. Help I alerted someone kicking my ars but now see ya. lol lol
Oh well on to other things… Long live will hip hip horary let’s get this new legion off to a positive start. Those out there looking for a fun group of guy willing to look out for one another, that want o share in some good npc farming look us up and send us your request lv 150+ please.
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:35 am |
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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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Lol. I find it funny.. I duel against only one single specific DOO person personally for private reason that caused the split of DOO as part of disciplinary action. Bam! I am on enemy DOO list at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=1 ... 282&ref=ts . Classic!  I was going to stop beating it up tomorrow or two that I felt that it got enough.. But its recent action only confirms my problem with his cowardly actions and seldom backstabbing of my authority over last 1-2 months. For that, I will continue my personal duel against that person for much longer.. When I was a leader, we always put any enemies on DOO list *IF* that enemy is fighting against many DOOs. I don't bother to put it up if only a personal duel cuz I saw no real point of dragging entire DOO into conflict. One fine example is that Kaos is fighting many DOOs already and he isn't an enemy of DOO. I fight against that specific single person and here I am on the enemy list immediately.  I know that my name on DOO enemy list means nothing cuz I got so many DOO friends and they won't get involved anyway. I haven't been attacked even once when I started my disciplinary action against that person. It should simply take my beatings like a person rather than dragging entire DOO down with it.. I, as leader, always am glad to take any beatings if it takes to take that person off my own legion to protect it. I will say this.. If any other DOO ever decides to interfere (combat in game) my disciplinary action against that person. I will answer back ruthless. I hope that any of you honor my personal duel against that person alone. Thank you. To the Dysonians, please just stay out of any of my personal affairs as well. If more DOOs join in to fight me, I'll handle them personally as well to keep them off you as well. Thank you. 
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:56 am |
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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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Hey Dan. I see the one loophole of an artifact in multi-legion system already.. One DOO legion always cast omicron net on other DOO legion member constantly. Please make omicron net removable by missile or tweak it to remove the loophole. Thanks. I just find it cheating.. I'll repost this to issue section at viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1840I'm glad that I am able to find some flaws and loopholes of multi-legion system when I am outside the system to continue as beta tester. That is awesome. 
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:10 pm |
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razorxxx
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:16 am Posts: 96
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Good morning everyone, I find that there is no loophole in any of your artifacts dan and the net was made this way for a reason and i think it should stay just the way it is. I also believe that chris had a message left for him,and a very nice one to boot. while i did not send it i am saying goodbye and will miss you. The net is something that needs to be left alone for the lowerlevels to have A chance to get some relief from a player trying to farm them. When i first joined i was glad to have the net.it kept me from getting farmed alot. If you keep reducing the things that help you defend yourself, then why have them in the first place.Please let the nets stay as they are. I also finally was able to sleep last night and when i awoke i found that the very thing that we were told to to was now bad. When I became admin, if someone left the group all of us was told to drop that person for security reasons. I am trying to understand why this is different now and how it does not apply to ppl that have left to go to another group outside of doo. I am still at a loss of why this whole duel thing started. I have gotten bits and pieces. The differences of your leadership makes things better and stronger for the fact that you have more ways of looking at things and in that a person can make a better well shaped decision.Not one person saying this is the way it needs to be without reading or responding to the ones that have a different opinion. I miss everyone that has gone and will always be friends with them. Also you must understand the security of the group.You were the one that came up with these rules. I have no hard feeling.
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:44 pm |
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jcwiggens
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:51 pm |
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Nocifer Deathblade
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Heh. It's a definitely an exploitation. That method didn't work before the in-game legion system was in the game, because everytime you got a friend in your legion, you cannot net your friend. Now with mechanics change, you can net your friend as long as he or she is not in your legion. That design changes from its original setting. I am merely pointing this changed artifact's design to Dan that net needs to go back to its original design that it cannot be used in any of your friends in your list.
No one is supposed to be completely invulnerable 24/7 indefinitely as long as friends keep netting them.. That current design is broken.. Good luck in trying to save the new now-overpowered artifact and try to convince Dan not to change it.
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:52 pm |
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razorxxx
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:16 am Posts: 96
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If you are upset i am sorry but I think that the net is effective defense against bullies. No one should be able to net a friend but should net an enemy. What is the real problem noci...I have not had a problem with you but have tried to follow what was taught. You are being very curt. If dan changes it he does. I am stating i would not like it to be changed. thats all. Razorxxx out
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:02 pm |
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Nocifer Deathblade
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@Jcwiggin. Yup exactly. That's why I have to break off to start my own legion with just 50 members because I knew that my idea will not sit well with current DOO and I don't blame that at all. It's just that my goals and DOO goal are nolonger in-sync and I have no problem with it at all and I don't fight any of DOO members cuz of this reason at all. I fully respect DOO decisions to stay huge as family-style that they liked and wanted to keep everyone in multi-legion system.
This is not only reason why I duel you personally. It's just a cumulative of 1-2 months of your secret actions against me that started to wear me down. Your recent action that just "shoved" me aside like nothing was the trigger of my break-off. I knew that you want PSICORE back into DOO so I thought I was being nice enough to leave DOO so PSICore can go back to DOO as clean change. I was just doing DOO, you and PSICore a favor.
You immediately kicked me out that you always wanted me out for so long for not giving me 1 day time to say farewell and bid the members good wishes in a healthy way. If you haven't kicked me off that fast, my fight against you wouldn't even happen. Only yesterday night, I was thinking of stopping attacking you soon maybe today or tomorrow thinking that you got enough beatings from me.. But your declaration of the war of DOO against me only strengthen my determination to beat you down much longer. I don't care if you call me names like bully, etc. I am fixated at you now.. I'm sorry that your 1-2 months of series of actions makes me focus on you personally and alone.
See you in battle.. Bring your friends against me if you want and I will handle them too. It's up to your friends to decide to join in. I have no interest in fighting them but if they do want to help you and fight me, they brought this mess on them.. Just a warning. I am Konqul and I handle matters in combat. Just let you know that I will not bring in my friends to handle your friends if they decide to join in to equalize the playing field. I love challenges if they are "strangers" to me. I hope not to fight old friends of mine in the process but if it happens then so be it.
You finally found yourself encased in invulnerability globe of the net. Enjoy your globe while it lasts because I expect that it won't last that long. I will keep my eyes on every time gap of any net re-casts to find a crack of your invulnerabilty to catch you. But I will constantly hack you as soon as restriction re-charges.. I orginally wasn't planning to capture any of your planets if I happen to crit-hack but your recent declaration of the DOO war against me just made me decide to capture any of your planets if I ever crit-hack one..
Also, I will not re-post any of your private messages here. Your messages stay private as supposed to.. Thank you.
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:06 pm |
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Kaos
Joined: Sat May 01, 2010 11:39 am Posts: 1217
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Are you guys threadjacking your own thread?
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:07 pm |
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Double tap
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Well, since the dynamic of the game has changed and Nocifer and his Hollow shell brigade have decided to turn this into SpaceFarmville, I think there needs to be something available to where you can't just be beat on ceaselessly stripping you of everything. I look at the Net as a Rope a Dope sort of thing, gives you a little time to catch your breath, besides, Baltar Has been using it for months and I never heard you complain then, now it interferes with your intents so now it sucks. oh well. and your not Konqul, that's something in the game. Get a life!
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:08 pm |
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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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razorxxx wrote: If you are upset i am sorry but I think that the net is effective defense against bullies. No one should be able to net a friend but should net an enemy. What is the real problem noci...I have not had a problem with you but have tried to follow what was taught. You are being very curt. If dan changes it he does. I am stating i would not like it to be changed. thats all. Razorxxx out Heh, I'm not being hurt at all. I am enjoying this game throughly. I am grinning right as I type.. I am very happy with new Legion and sure love new in-game legion system simply cuz it helps to equalize the playing field for everyone (BTW, Dan.. Well done on new game mechanics). I simply don't like any exploitations or way over-powered items that exist in games. It is my duty as beta tester to point out any flaws. Net usage on friends is a definitely a flaw design. That's it. What I really recommend you and all other is that if you view this GL as "just a game" then it will not affect your real life at all. It's a best recommendation. Fyi. I learned to separate myself from my real life and game life long time ago.
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:10 pm |
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Nocifer Deathblade
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Double tap wrote: Well, since the dynamic of the game has changed and Nocifer and his Hollow shell brigade have decided to turn this into SpaceFarmville, I think there needs to be something available to where you can't just be beat on ceaselessly stripping you of everything. I look at the Net as a Rope a Dope sort of thing, gives you a little time to catch your breath, besides, Baltar Has been using it for months and I never heard you complain then, now it interferes with your intents so now it sucks. oh well. and your not Konqul, that's something in the game. Get a life! Wow, you claimed that Baltar had been using it for months.. FYI, his friends CANNOT net on him. Only anyone outside his friend list can do that to him. The obvious reason why he got netted often was because he made so many enemies and they netted him often just to slow him down. And it is working as intended.. A friend in the list under new system is not supposed to be able to net on their own friends to make them fully invulnerable.. I personally fought baltar square and fair. He took this duel fairly and very well. He hasn't used nets to protect himself from me.. He took my duel like a true warrior. For that, he really earned my respect and I left him alone. He doesn't care if he got killed, hacked and raided many times from me for what he had done to DOO for a month or two that made me decided to join in to help DOO to fight him personally and he just didn't even go and cry to this forum about me. He just tried his best to shot me down. He fought me back. I never saw a net on him during entire duel. He did use traps (it's legimate and not exploitation) but never nets. Due to his honorable combat action against me, I don't believe your claim on him exploiting the use of nets. Sorry. And yes, I am Konqul. Just a good close look at my race stamped on my ship and what does it say? Konqul.  So your claim that I am not Konqul is also not correct..
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:18 pm |
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Double tap
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:57 pm Posts: 108
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Every time I fought him he did, and as for the Konqul thing, ok I'm sorry i know you cosplay people take stuff seriously
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:21 pm |
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Nocifer Deathblade
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:48 am Posts: 1945
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Double tap wrote: Every time I fought him he did, and as for the Konqul thing, ok I'm sorry i know you cosplay people take stuff seriously I am... only.. roleplaying.. Live with it...  I like to play words with you. Heh.
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Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:22 pm |
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Double tap
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:57 pm Posts: 108
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Also , THIS is what ruins games, high level early adopter/CC warriors band together and prey on legitimate players. and further more I am outraged at being played by you in your request that Legion members send you artifacts in your supposed Duel with Kaos then using them on a DOO member. I hate bullies!
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