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 Whats up with the 4k energy daily missions! 
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Ok so Lately I have seen a lot of people complaining about the daily missions, Firstly the 20 hour wait is nothing but annoying lol, But still only 2 weeks to complete it seems a tight squeeze But that's not all your asking for 4000 energy a day! even at 120e p/h its near impossible unless you can auto rank, or use a refill, Maybe this was the plan to increase profits forcing lower levels to purchase refills to complete the mission, I don't know but all I am saying is and I think this goes for a lot of people who cant do 4k energy a day, Please in future lower the amount of energy required to say 2k or increase the amount of days we get maybe a extra week?, Your offering abilities and permanent effects which are great!! but very hard to get, please can you consider what I and many others are complaining about, It just seems a little unfair people want to focus on there ships and the recent missions artifacts help a great amount but too damn hard to achieve!

Oh also I think you made a spelling mistake on the q-pedds seasonal event logo on the news tab, It says THRU Feb14th, Shouldn't this of been THUR? for Thursday lol, I may be misreading it but I don't think so lol

Sorry to nag about this, But with so many others complaining and not much being said about it, I thought it a good idea to inform you that many people are getting angry with the fact they cant complete a good mission with a great artifact and are getting ready to rage quit the game for good! :(

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Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:50 pm
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This is a set of missions for higher ranks.
4k energy a day is a very small amount of the energy we spend in an average day.
No one is forcing you to do this missions today, wait until they show up in the normal list of missions.

Dan, give us something we struggle to do. Maybe a daily that takes 10k energy a day.

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Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:58 pm
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As a high-level with more than enough energy to do these missions, I LOVE the idea of them being a daily.

Previously, Dan would add new content and within minutes, a large amount of people would have it done. This way we are savoring the mission, looking forward to the next 20 hours when we can do it again. This has really brought some spice to the higher levels who have no missions left.

Thanks Dan!


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So if this is set for higher rankers, at what rank does it start to show?
You yourself are in your 1k's rank tree? if i remember correctly lol so maybe 4k for what you use daily is nothing but like i said this is mainly for the little people who are struggling, I myself am not forced to do it but like i said the artifact is great so why would you want to wait or completely miss out on it, As for a daily that takes 10k energy, I have to say your either being sarcastic or a a$*? 10k e a day is out of the question 120e p/h is max and im sure you cant get energy quicker than any1 else at that rate? regardless im not looking for any1's opinion or trolling Im simply stating what many people are saying to me etc.

Personally the 20h wait is boring lol, but to me it brings a sense of achievement, and eagerness of waiting for it to be over so you can do it again, and is a great way of keeping the higher levels interested in the game who would of normally quit, as there's nothing left but repetitive pvp and npc, so It's a great concept the time but for the lower players the main bit im pointing at is the amount of energy it requires!

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dexter.regis wrote:
So if this is set for higher rankers, at what rank does it start to show?
You yourself are in your 1k's rank tree? if i remember correctly lol so maybe 4k for what you use daily is nothing but like i said this is mainly for the little people who are struggling, I myself am not forced to do it but like i said the artifact is great so why would you want to wait or completely miss out on it, As for a daily that takes 10k energy, I have to say your either being sarcastic or a a$*? 10k e a day is out of the question 120e p/h is max and im sure you cant get energy quicker than any1 else at that rate? regardless im not looking for any1's opinion or trolling Im simply stating what many people are saying to me etc.

Personally the 20h wait is boring lol, but to me it brings a sense of achievement, and eagerness of waiting for it to be over so you can do it again, and is a great way of keeping the higher levels interested in the game who would of normally quit, as there's nothing left but repetitive pvp and npc, so It's a great concept the time but for the lower players the main bit im pointing at is the amount of energy it requires!


To answer your first question, The Klorvis Aftermath daily becomes available upon rank 400. It costs 4k per day to do if you choose to do it. My guess is this chain will be minimum 400 however, with the amount of artifacts needed, I would imagine higher.

Remember, at low levels, you have tons of options; pvp that is fun, npcing with lots of npc options, leveling your base, doing bases that aren't always grinds, many, MANY missions, etc. Not every mission alert is for you. When I was your level, I had to decide, was the weekly worth doing right away, was it worth completing in the week or should I do it a couple of times and wait for it to come out? At my level, there is very little.


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i'm managing to do these missions fine, i have 120/hour E and level daily, i have 10x my rank in E max (i'm rank 468) and i still have enough E to max out my actions daily (or thereabouts). Personally it seems this mission is aimed at mid rank say 500-800 ish but lower ranks if they want the good arti's soon, they have to work for em, it would be just the same if there was a mission aimed at 1k+ and i could see it, say it took 10k E per day, it would be hard (would need a few refills) but it is possible. Dan keep these sorts of missions going! :D

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Ya you don't have to do the daily's. I remember back when daily's first started I never finished them. But they do come out once the chain is over for you to do it straight through if you so choose. If you had to finish them in the time given I would agree with you but you don't and you can do them later to get the reward as I all ready said. So just give it time and you will get there. I think this is a great idea because it gives all the new players a bunch of extra missions to do as they play through and the same with the lower ranks that are playing now. you have three years of missions to do this way. That will help keep you interested for a very long time.

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I still haven't got all the items in the Klovis chain, I haven't even finished the Xecti mission chain or the ally one. Im coming on 800. I think I have plenty to do way into my 1k's


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The 10k daily idea was not sarcastic at all.

Think of these missions as a preview for what you can do later.

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Have you considered that maybe there are some things that aren't meant to be easy? If you don't want a challenge every now and then, go play farmville or something. Yes, it's difficult, if not impossible, for many people to do right now. That being said, it WILL come back without a time limit in a couple months.

Give the higher ranks something to do, the rest of us can do these missions as our energy allows, later on.

The rewards are good because the mission is difficult. Would you rather just have everything given to you without having to work/wait for it at all?

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For 1 i don't know why your aiming these questions at me, Does know body read anymore lol, I clearly stated i enjoy the way there laid out etc slightly boring but still fun and I can do it the mission myself with e to spare, But on half of all the smaller players complaining and not doing anything about it, I thought i would ask Dan to make it easier keeping the 20hr wait but reducing the energy cost by half!! thats all, Like i said I can and am doing these missions fine myself, If i wanted to play farm ville I wouldn't be here would i, I am not complaining myself I really cant figure out why people cant get to grips with that bit :/ whats wrong with some people!
And as athom1s pointed out, as the missions get harder you would need refills to complete them in time, My whole point on this was, Who really wants to wait 3 months to finish a mission, Say you came so close to finishing it was say 600 energy away, then bam now you gota wait 3 months, thats my point, it is frustrating knowing you worked so hard to get as far as you did, yet you dont get the full benefits for another 3 or so months because your not high enough in the game!, Maybe the missions could be arranged to rank say under 300 get half energy 301-600 3/4 energy use and 601+ have to use the whole 4k e a day? Just a suggestion but its only to make it equal to every player!

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If any change were made, I would ask Dan to make it 10 clicks at 400 energy vs 40 clicks at 100. That is a nicer set up.

Heck, make it 1 click at 4k energy and call in the whamulances!


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While it says 50+ on the mission tag, I don't see a reason to lower the energy, depending on what the ability is from getting all the parts there isn't a reason to lower the energy cost. If everything was easy there would be no reason to play the game. I spent a year getting Taltherian as soon as I somewhat could doing NPCing and a few other things. (I couldn't play for a few months here and there... and my ship is not a speed leveler). Would I lower the cost of that mission chain, or any of the missions in it, due to not so hot items? No, I wouldn't. Why? Because at the end it was more then worth getting the race unlocked. I assume that this mission chain will have a great reward for the amount of energy it is going to take to finish it. The more energy the better the reward at the end of all of it.


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Say you came so close to finishing it was say 600 energy away, then bam now you gota wait 3 months, thats my point, it is frustrating knowing you worked so hard to get as far as you did, yet you dont get the full benefits for another 3 or so months because your not high enough in the game!,


eh... isn't that why you save up some energy cubes for a rainy day? Or I am the only one with 20 some cubes and Tris combined sitting in my storage?


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Feldshan wrote:
eh... isn't that why you save up some energy cubes for a rainy day? Or I am the only one with 20 some cubes and Tris combined sitting in my storage?


Exactly.
Save them regularly, and have the patience to do the mission when you're higher ranked.
As a low rank myself, the weekly missions are interesting since they offer a glimpse in to what I can do later. I don't resent the fact that I cannot do them now.

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Exactly.
Save them regularly, and have the patience to do the mission when you're higher ranked.
As a low rank myself, the weekly missions are interesting since they offer a glimpse in to what I can do later. I don't resent the fact that I cannot do them now.

The other nice thing is the last mission gave you arties you could use on your best planets to make your production higher and by not doing the mission to completion, you will have them later when you have better planets.


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I'll agree that the energy cost is too high, but I won't accept "I'm a high rank, and it's a tiny amount" as an argument against it's cost. You're a higher rank, good for you, but you're not the only important people in this game. If I can see it, it's aimed at me just as much as you.

I am struggling to keep up with the missions. I'm at 120/hr, but can't seem to get one completion/day with my max of ~5K energy.

Personally I think that if it's going to be high-cost in energy, it shouldn't be daily. If it's going to be daily, everyone should be able to do it.

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XxDarthDexterxX wrote:
Personally I think that if it's going to be high-cost in energy, it shouldn't be daily. If it's going to be daily, everyone should be able to do it.

Everyone can do it, they just might be able to do it to completion.


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im nearing 900 now, and have 11K energy, i can do the daily, and then have to autorank off whats left. im not complaining, ive maxed one of my 3 new mega colossals from these new dailies.

and 'who wants to wait 3 months to get X reward', please shut up and think. do you know how long it takes to become taltherian if you dont use cubes/tris, or refills? it certainly isnt an overnight chain.
or how about getting the gemini cannons ( i dont have them yet, they dont seem worth it unless it during an online fight)

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If you find yourself struggling to compete in ANY area of the game... you aren't ready for it yet!
Give it a few months. Let the missions be archived and do them once you have grown up later. There is more than enough other content for you to occupy yourself with in the meantime.

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If any change were made, I would ask Dan to make it 10 clicks at 400 energy vs 40 clicks at 100. That is a nicer set up.

Heck, make it 1 click at 4k energy and call in the whamulances!



I think the point behind that is to require more artifacts... Or probably not because I'm sure he could rig it to use 10 artifacts per click.

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