Choose how many Science Points go to certain techs.
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Asheron
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 580 Location: Asheron's Island, Dereth
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Let's say I have 35,000 science points to spend, and one tech is 30,001 to being finished.
However, I don't want to finish that tech yet. I'd like to put just 30,000 into it and the rest elsewhere.
Therefore, I'd like to be able to type in "30000" under "How many tech points to allocate to (this tech?)"
Should be easy to code. Let me know if there would be any problems. Other than that, "+#" it.
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:45 am |
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Sereomontis
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:15 pm Posts: 476
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+1 Good idea, but I would suggest keeping a "use all" option as well, so you can choose, and wont have to type in a number.
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:17 am |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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Can you give one GOOD reason why anyone would split their research into more than one project at a time?
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:50 pm |
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Bluecifer
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:53 pm Posts: 3756 Location: Aboard my floating fortress of ineptitude
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Why?
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:01 pm |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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Darth Flagitious wrote: Can you give one GOOD reason why anyone would split their research into more than one project at a time? I got this.... He has mutliple personalities and one of his personalities wants to tech weapons while the other one wants to tech defense and third wants to go outside and play basketball, but is rarely the dominate persona. The first two are at odds with each other and thus in order to stop the constant bickering, which has caused him many problems, especially in libraries, he has come with this idea. OR he uses base production to do base research and his production for ship mods and not being a leader he can't change the rules to collect and separate the research, because it is automatically added to his own, and timing sucks because is just before he goes to bed/comes home from work or w/e. I prefer the former, it has a better story imo.
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:12 pm |
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Chakotay
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 7:30 pm Posts: 1529
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Atm I would love this option so I put a little bit toward base research and rest to modules.... Which soon will be only base tech.
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:45 pm |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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Still no one has answered Darth's question. Why?
Lets say you are researching 2 tiers: Weapons and base research Okay just for the sake of argument lets say if you put all of your points into weapons it would take 2 weeks to complete 1 tier and if you put everything into base research it would take 4 weeks for that.
Now you could go the logical way and just pick one or the other or you could split them lets say 50/50 if you did that weapons would take 4 weeks to finish and then assuming you then put everything to the base it will take two more weeks. So doing this weapons gets done in 4 weeks and then everything in 6.
Now had you gone and just chosen weapons and put everything into that it would have been done at two weeks and then switch to base and still be all done in 6 weeks. Difference here is you've got the next weapons tier two weeks earlier with no drawbacks to how long it takes to get everything done. This math although simple works for any situation.
If you are going to research something research it and only it.
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Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:00 am |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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Or if you REALLY must split, go 1 day weapons, 1 day base?
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Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:57 pm |
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kellmaster
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:36 am Posts: 319
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-1 not necessary IMO. not wanting to finish research on something?? odd, but ok, if you dont want to make your ship better then fine, just dont research it. splitting research is easy, just go hourly, or day by day.
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:26 am |
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Asheron
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 580 Location: Asheron's Island, Dereth
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Sereomontis wrote: +1 Good idea, but I would suggest keeping a "use all" option as well, so you can choose, and wont have to type in a number. +1 to have the best of both worlds.
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:28 am |
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Asheron
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 580 Location: Asheron's Island, Dereth
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REASONS WHY I SPLIT RESEARCH:
In my earlier, noobish times, I had a frenzy in upgrading anything seeming worthwhile at the time.
However, when I later learned that I could have more than one of that module, I realized that I would have to take many months to build up the decks needed to fill the module allotments.
I still have to place 2 more shield modules (at their latest tech levels), 3 more defense dampeners, and 4 more scanning sensors (and the scanning sensors are the tallest of them all: Each of the M3 Tachyon Sensors are 72 decks high.)
(There are components that drop from NPC enemy ships but I won't look through how many more of them I need to install before meeting their max allotments, but plenty for sure.)
That's why I decided to place my research elsewhere before discovering advances that would create components which take up even MORE deck space. Until those upper component space limits are met, I'll concentrate on planet, energy and base research.
(Energy is the only ship component tech I'll improve in the meantime because I never have enough!)
But now you see why I'd prefer to split my science points?
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:42 am |
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martin.smit
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:45 am Posts: 148
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Littlefluffy wrote: Darth Flagitious wrote: Can you give one GOOD reason why anyone would split their research into more than one project at a time? I got this.... He has mutliple personalities and one of his personalities wants to tech weapons while the other one wants to tech defense and third wants to go outside and play basketball, but is rarely the dominate persona. The first two are at odds with each other and thus in order to stop the constant bickering, which has caused him many problems, especially in libraries, he has come with this idea. OR he uses base production to do base research and his production for ship mods and not being a leader he can't change the rules to collect and separate the research, because it is automatically added to his own, and timing sucks because is just before he goes to bed/comes home from work or w/e. I prefer the former, it has a better story imo. Think that might be the right one. This guy just made 6 Threads open, most just waste of time
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:45 am |
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kellmaster
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:36 am Posts: 319
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Asheron wrote: REASONS WHY I SPLIT RESEARCH:
In my earlier, noobish times, I had a frenzy in upgrading anything seeming worthwhile at the time.
However, when I later learned that I could have more than one of that module, I realized that I would have to take many months to build up the decks needed to fill the module allotments.
I still have to place 2 more shield modules (at their latest tech levels), 3 more defense dampeners, and 4 more scanning sensors (and the scanning sensors are the tallest of them all: Each of the M3 Tachyon Sensors are 72 decks high.)
(There are components that drop from NPC enemy ships but I won't look through how many more of them I need to install before meeting their max allotments, but plenty for sure.)
That's why I decided to place my research elsewhere before discovering advances that would create components which take up even MORE deck space. Until those upper component space limits are met, I'll concentrate on planet, energy and base research.
(Energy is the only ship component tech I'll improve in the meantime because I never have enough!)
But now you see why I'd prefer to split my science points? i have 2590 decks, 8 cannons, 2 thrusters, no cloaking, 1 scanner, 5 hulls, no shield. not being able to install everything is just part of the game, you have to choose how you want to play. to have absolutely everything installed that you can get you need 6000+ i think. despite your reasoning i stand by my previous -1
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:28 pm |
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Darth Flagitious
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 pm Posts: 8964
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Asheron wrote: REASONS WHY I SPLIT RESEARCH:
In my earlier, noobish times, I had a frenzy in upgrading anything seeming worthwhile at the time.
However, when I later learned that I could have more than one of that module, I realized that I would have to take many months to build up the decks needed to fill the module allotments.
I still have to place 2 more shield modules (at their latest tech levels), 3 more defense dampeners, and 4 more scanning sensors (and the scanning sensors are the tallest of them all: Each of the M3 Tachyon Sensors are 72 decks high.)
(There are components that drop from NPC enemy ships but I won't look through how many more of them I need to install before meeting their max allotments, but plenty for sure.)
That's why I decided to place my research elsewhere before discovering advances that would create components which take up even MORE deck space. Until those upper component space limits are met, I'll concentrate on planet, energy and base research.
(Energy is the only ship component tech I'll improve in the meantime because I never have enough!)
But now you see why I'd prefer to split my science points? No... Not really, no...
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:48 pm |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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Darth Flagitious wrote: Asheron wrote: REASONS WHY I SPLIT RESEARCH:
In my earlier, noobish times, I had a frenzy in upgrading anything seeming worthwhile at the time.
However, when I later learned that I could have more than one of that module, I realized that I would have to take many months to build up the decks needed to fill the module allotments.
I still have to place 2 more shield modules (at their latest tech levels), 3 more defense dampeners, and 4 more scanning sensors (and the scanning sensors are the tallest of them all: Each of the M3 Tachyon Sensors are 72 decks high.)
(There are components that drop from NPC enemy ships but I won't look through how many more of them I need to install before meeting their max allotments, but plenty for sure.)
That's why I decided to place my research elsewhere before discovering advances that would create components which take up even MORE deck space. Until those upper component space limits are met, I'll concentrate on planet, energy and base research.
(Energy is the only ship component tech I'll improve in the meantime because I never have enough!)
But now you see why I'd prefer to split my science points? No... Not really, no... Sorry still not getting it....
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:41 pm |
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playret0195x
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:48 pm Posts: 2251
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I fail to see where thiis necessary. If you're that concerned about getting your decks up with your mods then stunt your RP. If you're in a base with a CTLab just dump your RP into there. Also if your really want more decks go buy them from the artifact market or join a legion with high artifact production.
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:01 pm |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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No need to stunt your rp in any way. It is in no way necessary to have every ship mod you can installed, or even have the best ones you have researched on. eventually you will get to the point where you can afford them and have the room. Who knows maybe you can skip a tier and save yourself some credits in the process.
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:17 pm |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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can't see why u would want a split at all. if u don't need deck based module, don't put RP into them at all. it will get ur other techs done faster
and when u have enough deck, u can focus in ship modules again.
everything gets done faster if u focus research
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:46 pm |
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Preliator Xzien
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No good reason to split, end of story.
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Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:09 am |
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Asheron
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 580 Location: Asheron's Island, Dereth
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playret0195x wrote: I fail to see where thiis necessary. If you're that concerned about getting your decks up with your mods then stunt your RP. If you're in a base with a CTLab just dump your RP into there. Also if your really want more decks go buy them from the artifact market or join a legion with high artifact production. I already do; I try to keep my RP as close to 2012 points/hour as possible until I upgrade my mining & artifact productions to catch up. As of today, mining just barely entered the Renaissance; Artifact is still in medieval times.
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