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I got a "this page is getting to long" message when I edited it just now. Unless someone has major heartburn about it, I'll probably start breaking it into separate pages, one for each major artifact type (I'll leave discontinued and limited issue artifacts on the main page for now). [[User:Qualon|Qualon]] 12:43, 11 September 2011 (UTC) | I got a "this page is getting to long" message when I edited it just now. Unless someone has major heartburn about it, I'll probably start breaking it into separate pages, one for each major artifact type (I'll leave discontinued and limited issue artifacts on the main page for now). [[User:Qualon|Qualon]] 12:43, 11 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
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| + | During the many edits of this page we've lost some artifacts, mainly discontinued daily rewards, such as the "Insignia of Independence", and the "Sphere of the New Era"; However there are definitely others missing, as F.A.T.H.E.R.s are no-longer listed and should be in the GP Only section, etc. | ||
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| + | While knowing where artifacts IS useful, it seems to me a separate list on this page is not very useful considering the ever increasing number, an extra column on the artifacts *may* be more helpful at least until we get sub categories. | ||
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| + | Furthermore, and this especially applies to the Artifacts being used in missions or coming from NPCs, players should be able to click the artifact link in a page that directs to Artifacts, and then have the outcome be taking them to the specific artifact on the main list or most relevant list. | ||
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| + | Initially, until I noticed the missing Artifacts, and subsequently read this discussion I was seriously considering Reverting back to a couple comprehensive lists, to alleviate the increased length of this page. | ||
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| + | My thought had been that most of the sub categorization present on this page is NOT really useful, and that lists that appear on some of the other pages are far more useful, so I would set this page back to an older version with less sub categorization, and ask everyone that sub categorization to be entirely in those other pages. | ||
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| + | By this I mean: All artifacts related to Structures should go on the planet Structures Page; All Artifacts which relate to Weapons on the ship Weapons Page; all of them that relate to Energy, on the Ship Energy page, and so on, and so forth. | ||
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| + | SOME of these categorizations however ARE useful, so, we should be creating views off of this main list area, and then keeping artifacts in a single complete list here or else-where, with linkings between those sub categorized lists; similarly to how they do in the KoL Wiki for their different types of Artifacts. However I have No Idea how to make the Templates to allow proper linking between sets and lists. | ||
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| + | (More-Over we really need to create templates for certain types of pages such as NPCs, as they are not always properly linked to related pages, unless one of the experienced Wiki editors creates it, and even then Human Error is going to come into play.) | ||
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| + | As I see it this would be a good way to manage the lists go forward, but I may not have a lot of time to work on this at the moment: | ||
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| + | This Page: | ||
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| + | Single Table Of Artifacts laid out as follows: | ||
| + | Name - Type - Source - Scrap - Uses - Trade - Share - Status - Notes | ||
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| + | Name - Name of the Artifact. | ||
| + | Type - ONE of the following: Planet Structure, Base Module, Ship Module, Ship Effect, Planet Effect, Structure Effect, Player Effect | ||
| + | Examples of each "Type": Planet Structure, (eg. Warp Gate); Base Module, (eg. Base Comm Interlink); Ship Module, (eg. Stryll Prey Tracker); Ship Effect, (eg. Tevrazon Gas Canister, Energy cube, Tri-Matrix Emblem); Planet Effect, (eg. Grav-Whip Trap, Planet Flux, Mass Surface Metler); Structure Effect, (eg. Sha'jha Link Upgrade); Player Effect, (eg. Glavis Device, Sphere Of A New Era) | ||
| + | Examples of types: Warp Gate | ||
| + | Source - Add all that Apply: Galaxy Points, Daily Reward, Blue Prints, NPCs, Missions, AP Cost, Rank, etc. | ||
| + | Scrap - The Scrap Value of the Artifact | ||
| + | Uses - Add all that Apply: Missions, Artifacts, NPCs, PvP, PvE, Base Upgrades | ||
| + | Trade - Yes, No | ||
| + | Share - Yes, No | ||
| + | Status - Available, Removed | ||
| + | Notes - Descriptive notes on the artifact as currently supplied on this page. | ||
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| + | Possible Sub Categories: | ||
| + | Of Course: Planet, Structure, Weapons, Defenses, Shields, Hull, Energy, Cloak, Scan | ||
| + | Mission Artifacts | ||
| + | NPC Artifacts | ||
| + | PvP Artifacts | ||
| + | Limited-Time Artifacts | ||
| + | Purchasable Artifacts | ||
| + | Buildable Artifacts | ||
| + | CT Lab Artifacts | ||
| + | Artifact Hints and tips | ||
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| + | Does anyone have any additional Ideas on Artifact Sub Categories we should do? | ||
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| + | -Q [[User:QCubed|-Q]] 9:54, 2011-09-14 UTC) | ||
Revision as of 07:58, 14 September 2011
Which table to add this? Planetary Aegis - A special and rare device that provides a powerful shield around a planet for 5 days.
It's the artifact every new player has when starting. Dataminer1
Should we delete artifacts that makes buildings and modules from this page? Readers looking for those goes to those pages anyway, the same as other editors go to those pages when entering these data. Dataminer1 11:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Coalition Database links to here but is not here/Has no description. Crimson 21:01 23 March 2011
I'm going to start a new subsection for artifacts that have uses in missions. Tired of the old "is *X* artifact used for anything important" questions. Razorback
I got a "this page is getting to long" message when I edited it just now. Unless someone has major heartburn about it, I'll probably start breaking it into separate pages, one for each major artifact type (I'll leave discontinued and limited issue artifacts on the main page for now). Qualon 12:43, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
During the many edits of this page we've lost some artifacts, mainly discontinued daily rewards, such as the "Insignia of Independence", and the "Sphere of the New Era"; However there are definitely others missing, as F.A.T.H.E.R.s are no-longer listed and should be in the GP Only section, etc.
While knowing where artifacts IS useful, it seems to me a separate list on this page is not very useful considering the ever increasing number, an extra column on the artifacts *may* be more helpful at least until we get sub categories.
Furthermore, and this especially applies to the Artifacts being used in missions or coming from NPCs, players should be able to click the artifact link in a page that directs to Artifacts, and then have the outcome be taking them to the specific artifact on the main list or most relevant list.
Initially, until I noticed the missing Artifacts, and subsequently read this discussion I was seriously considering Reverting back to a couple comprehensive lists, to alleviate the increased length of this page.
My thought had been that most of the sub categorization present on this page is NOT really useful, and that lists that appear on some of the other pages are far more useful, so I would set this page back to an older version with less sub categorization, and ask everyone that sub categorization to be entirely in those other pages.
By this I mean: All artifacts related to Structures should go on the planet Structures Page; All Artifacts which relate to Weapons on the ship Weapons Page; all of them that relate to Energy, on the Ship Energy page, and so on, and so forth.
SOME of these categorizations however ARE useful, so, we should be creating views off of this main list area, and then keeping artifacts in a single complete list here or else-where, with linkings between those sub categorized lists; similarly to how they do in the KoL Wiki for their different types of Artifacts. However I have No Idea how to make the Templates to allow proper linking between sets and lists.
(More-Over we really need to create templates for certain types of pages such as NPCs, as they are not always properly linked to related pages, unless one of the experienced Wiki editors creates it, and even then Human Error is going to come into play.)
As I see it this would be a good way to manage the lists go forward, but I may not have a lot of time to work on this at the moment:
This Page:
Single Table Of Artifacts laid out as follows: Name - Type - Source - Scrap - Uses - Trade - Share - Status - Notes
Name - Name of the Artifact. Type - ONE of the following: Planet Structure, Base Module, Ship Module, Ship Effect, Planet Effect, Structure Effect, Player Effect
Examples of each "Type": Planet Structure, (eg. Warp Gate); Base Module, (eg. Base Comm Interlink); Ship Module, (eg. Stryll Prey Tracker); Ship Effect, (eg. Tevrazon Gas Canister, Energy cube, Tri-Matrix Emblem); Planet Effect, (eg. Grav-Whip Trap, Planet Flux, Mass Surface Metler); Structure Effect, (eg. Sha'jha Link Upgrade); Player Effect, (eg. Glavis Device, Sphere Of A New Era) Examples of types: Warp Gate
Source - Add all that Apply: Galaxy Points, Daily Reward, Blue Prints, NPCs, Missions, AP Cost, Rank, etc. Scrap - The Scrap Value of the Artifact Uses - Add all that Apply: Missions, Artifacts, NPCs, PvP, PvE, Base Upgrades Trade - Yes, No Share - Yes, No Status - Available, Removed Notes - Descriptive notes on the artifact as currently supplied on this page.
Possible Sub Categories: Of Course: Planet, Structure, Weapons, Defenses, Shields, Hull, Energy, Cloak, Scan Mission Artifacts NPC Artifacts PvP Artifacts Limited-Time Artifacts Purchasable Artifacts Buildable Artifacts CT Lab Artifacts Artifact Hints and tips
Does anyone have any additional Ideas on Artifact Sub Categories we should do?
-Q -Q 9:54, 2011-09-14 UTC)