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So i started playing recently and just got out of begginners protection. I have been looking through the forums and there are a few things i havn't seen mentioned, not to say they arn't there but i havn't run across them so....

Question: How likely am i to have a higher level player scan one of my planets? I'm curious becuase i decided to spend $50 and upgraded a single planet a bit, if i lose it no biggie i'll just refrain from putting money in until a point that i can either protect it or put enough cloak on a planet to make it very hard to find. although if i understand things correctly that would required 1k or more of cloak which would take a LONG time to research up to that point so would take some time.

Question: I have figured out that in both minerals and artifacts you want to wait until your pool is as large as it is so potentially get better returns before you accept a deliver, on artifacts its a non issue as any artifact takes up one cargo but i'm curious does your cargo space LIMIT what you can potentially get from a mineral delivery? meaning if i only have cargo capacity of 100 and i accept a mineral delivery when i'm at say 2500 mineral pool will i get different minerals dispersion if i did the same when i had 200 cargo capcity? is there a relation or can i still get top end minerals without having a HUGE cargo so long as i have a high planetary mineral pool saved up?

Question: I got into a legion pretty much right off the bat, however the average rank of the legion is 31 and only a few people are over rank 70 i'm curious if this is good or bad? I'm new to the game so i don't expect some highly ranked legion to want to let me into their merry band. I ask because i intend to play mostly non aggressive so i know i'll be needing more pvp oriented players to cover my back if/when i get attacked :)

Question: am i shooting myself in the foot by focusing mainly on scanners in the hope to find more/better planets so i don't have to settle for small planets with low resources? for that matter what is the best resource level i might expect to find on a scan of a non player buffed up planet? I seem to find either very small/tiny planets or good planets that are controlled by players. rather discouraging to have so many planets of other players being in my scan list as it doesn't matter what quality they are, they are planets i can't have one way or the other so seems hard to find useful planets.

Question: what would be a good ratio of planets(resource wise) to shoot for? I havn't found any planets worth mentioning for artifacts so i have to use a mining planet for average for my single source of artifacts for the time being as i know i should be getting artifacts in hopes of getting good deliveries but i have more research then anything with mining not far behind it. Obviously as i level up it'll get easier with access to more and more planets but it is slow going as i'm focused on scanners so only have the default energy reserve because i have put my points into decks so i can put more and more stuff on board and i picked arleen physicist which may have been a mistake at least early on as i can't afford to put defenses on just yet.....might pay to change race and then change back later when i can get some benefit out of the racial ability.

thanx for any input either to my questions or even just other thoughts :)


Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:30 pm
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I personally find myself landing about 20% Minerals 40% Artifacts and 40% Research.
I try to max a planet out for its best resource and then expand to the next best planet I can take focusing on anything I feel deficient in.

If you are going to spend money, save your bucks until you can do The Terra Project. You will end up with a very nice planet that can adapt to fill any hole in your production and in theory it can never be stolen.

Feel free to be picky about planets and focus on your scan tech early. You will thank yourself later. I stay away from anything that isn't at least Large and/or Rich.


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Question: How likely am i to have a higher level player scan one of my planets? pretty likely. i have almost all my planets scanned by other ppl. and u need more than 10000 cloak to keep ur planets hidden. ur better off putting attack and defense because it takes up less space.

Question: I have figured out that in both minerals and artifacts you want to wait until your pool is as large as it is so potentially get better returns before you accept a deliver... but i'm curious does your cargo space LIMIT what you can potentially get from a mineral delivery? technically you get better minerals by the more mineral points you have. so if you have 7500 mineral space and only 20 open cargo then you are more likely to get kurenite than if u have 200 mineral points and have 20 open cargo.

Question: I got into a legion pretty much right off the bat, however the average rank of the legion is 31 and only a few people are over rank 70 i'm curious if this is good or bad? if you want to pvp then it could be a bad thing. make sure that there are no people in ur targets legion that are better than the top ppl in ur legion. otherwise you can get destroyed.


Question: am i shooting myself in the foot by focusing mainly on scanners in the hope to find more/better planets so i don't have to settle for small planets with low resources? for that matter what is the best resource level i might expect to find on a scan of a non player buffed up planet?
the top resource u can find is 48 megarich. the scanners are good, but you really only need them for scanning blitzes. ur better off researching buildings, weapons, and energy. that way u can rank faster, get better NPC drops and PvP kills, and get better production from ur current planets.

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thanx for the response, yeah i'm trying to be more picky with my planets now and have dumped a subpar planet....until i find more useful planets i'm stuck with a few subpar planets until i can find better because i simply need the production....i can ditch them later :( i'll have to look into the terra project so i can find out why it is "in theory" protected from being stolen.

i already made myself one very massive planet at 4x mega rich so thats providing my research for now but will hold off on further investments until i know more about the game and am able to protect $ investments.


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the exotic u get from the terra project has passive 10k attack, defense, and cloak. its definitly worth getting instead of improving other planets.

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WOOT found a larg terra mega rich artifact planet....have to wait 2 ranks to colonize it though :(

terra has no impact on the planet aside from various artifacts being able to trigger off os a "planet type" correct?


and i'll see if i can find anything on the terra project mission....gonna be awhile before i have access to that i suspect as i'm only rank 18 :(


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I would suggest not putting all your eggs (research) in one basket (planet). Get a couple more because that one REALLY nice planet will get scanned and at that resource level, will get taken. Especially considering you are such a low level. I know I would take it if I found it (nothing personal of course) That pretty much hoses your research.

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WOOT found a larg terra mega rich artifact planet....have to wait 2 ranks to colonize it though :(

terra has no impact on the planet aside from various artifacts being able to trigger off os a "planet type" correct?


and i'll see if i can find anything on the terra project mission....gonna be awhile before i have access to that i suspect as i'm only rank 18 :(


just remember, dont take planets from people higher rank than you. otherwise ur just wasting ur money and gurenteed to be disabled, hacked, and raided to zero.

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well until i can control more then 5 planets i'm left with few options. i will not pay to upgrade another planet for some time though for sure. I looked into the terra project and it seems you have the chance on each mission to get the hyper terraformer that is also mission completion award, so does that mean you could POTENTIALLY get multiple or is it limit 1 so IF you were to get one before completion you stop since you then wouldn't get one on completion?

And at this point i have a few other research possiblities on my scanners, not great but they'll do in a pinch if i lose my good planet.

no i don't plan on attacking anyone for a long time. the planet i mentioned was unoccupied.


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you can potentially find more than one. but the odds on that are the same as you finding a terraformer in your artifact draw.

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well that would be....zero, and while i'm sure the odds are LOW they can't be zero or the chance wouldn't even be mentioned. I won't hold my breath though :)

Tera project seems to have a better reward then the collosal project as it would be really hard to protec the dyson assuming it has no built in bonuses like the terra project planet.


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build dysons also have the 10k bonus. and you can still get terraformers and QSEs from artifact draws according to dan. i guess it would make more sense to say ur chances of getting an extra hyperterraformer is the same as scanning a natural dyson.

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ah okay i was reading through the wiki and it seemed to indicate terraformers and expanders were NOT available from artifact shipments like they once were.


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I know someone who scanned a natural Dyson.
It's awesome.


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I was happy enough finding a large mega rich, so won't hold my breath on finding anything better anytime soon :)

yeah finding a dyson or such would be awesome, but the odds on that must be like winning the lotto.


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was it legit, or were they cheating by using multiple accounts? cause so far the only people ive heard about scanning natural dysons got em from multis.

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Another thing :)

regarding combat particularly with ships of different size how is damage figured in a general sense? i realize they probly have some random factors thrown in ther. I'm curious if for example someone attacks me and i have say 10k defense and they have 10k attack (obviously i don't) would this mean damage would be very minimal as its comparing attack to defense? if i have 5k defense and they have 10k attack how much damage can i expect to take? And if i understand it correctly the MAX damage that can be inflicted on a given ship is its DECKS/2 which is fine IF having a high defense actually has a good impact on damage. But since i havn't played much i don't know how balanced that particular feature is, not sure it makes sense that a bigger ship takes more damage everything else being equal.


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Former legionmate of mine found a natural dyson too. And no indications whatsoever of being a multi.

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It's legit. 45x 27x 14x so its not constructed.


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