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I'm at almost 12 energy ratio now. I can auto rank on NPCs, no prolem, if I wanted to.

One of my goals is to increase my artifact production. So i've also been cranking away at the star chart purger mission. Now, the question is, should I try and crank on energy so that I can do that mission more often, and quicker (to get up to I suspect 16X or so, which could take a while) or should I just wait it out and pour points into tac officers and only add points to it to keep my ratio at around 12X?

So I'm trying to figure out... It's the classic problem. More engineers or tactical officers? Wait it out and be patient with the star chart purgers or rush and pour lots of points into engineers to do the purgers mission as quickly as possible to scan and find planets for artifact production?


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always keep upgrading your energy until you can auto level off purger mission and/or bases just dont let your attack/defence get too weak for your level.

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Is that what the high levelers do? Damn, gonna be a while before I can auto rank off of that mission. Been trying to tell myself to just pile on the energy and not the tac officers but it's just been so tempting...


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Everyone is different some go heavy tach and low E bar most go for a balance of E and Tach and some go for high E and medium tach it's really all down to your playstyle and what you actually want to do in the game.

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My thinking is to ridiculously crank my artifact production, and be slightly weaker for a bit due to putting prisoner points into engineers instead of tac officers for the bigger picture in the future, where I can make up the fewer tac officers as I pick up more prisoners than others of my rank.

Kind of like taking a step back for two steps forward in the future.


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I am rank 1458 and can auto-rank on NPCs easily at 11x. If you can auto-rank on NPCs, I say increase attack and only put rank-up points into Engineers.


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13x is my recommendation.
Plenty enough to auto rank and some for purgers/other missions

Easy to keep up. Rank up points plus 1 prisoner every other level.

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how to u find out your energy ratio?

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how to u find out your energy ratio?

Max energy/rank

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Total energy, without relays installed divided by your current rank is your ratio.

Now, I can auto rank, no problems and that's pretty much what I do. Put rank points into engineers, and everything eslse except 2 points into tac officers. It's ok, but it would seem like I'm auto ranking too much if I kept on doing that.

There's other strategies as well, where people put 1 pt in energy an 2 into tac officers. Not sure which one is better to be honest. The middle ground is ok, but which one would lead me to a better growth path in the future? Seem like once I can get to 16x, it would be just seriously cRank up my arti production.


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Total energy, without relays installed divided by your current rank is your ratio.

Now, I can auto rank, no problems and that's pretty much what I do. Put rank points into engineers, and everything eslse except 2 points into tac officers. It's ok, but it would seem like I'm auto ranking too much if I kept on doing that.

There's other strategies as well, where people put 1 pt in energy an 2 into tac officers. Not sure which one is better to be honest. The middle ground is ok, but which one would lead me to a better growth path in the future? Seem like once I can get to 16x, it would be just seriously cRank up my arti production.


Well, I think what I said is best, because your attack should easily keep up with your level. Admittedly, even though I can, I don't actually auto-rank very much, it's too time consuming. That said, I have a lot of energy and a lot of attack, and things have been going extremely well for me the last few hundred ranks, so I think I'm on to something.


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somewhat related question but does anyone know the energy ration required to auto rank off of the purger mission?

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elerian wrote:
somewhat related question but does anyone know the energy ration required to auto rank off of the purger mission?


20 w/o exp buffs
with buffs = 20/exp buff bonus
ie w/ neural 20/1.15

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Less if you're also using rsl memory implant and if you do it as human. With all 3, it gets down to 14.4. If you dont want to switch race, 15.8 with both buffs.

You can also try and autorank on bases... that would probably require a solid 20 ratio with both buffs and human as race.


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For pure auto ranking inergon is better than human.
10% boost either way.

Its only when not actually auto ranking when human can be better as inergon gets no bonus on energy recharged over time.

And since we are listing harder and harder things to auto rank from how about getting 40x and donating to base.

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I didn't list Inergon since it's already counted in the ratio - it boosts your energy total.

Autoranking on base donations... ouch!! At least its almost impossible to do. Even if you did manage it, you would lose quickly your ability to autorank that way with each rank gained.


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I didn't list Inergon since it's already counted in the ratio - it boosts your energy total.

Autoranking on base donations... ouch!! At least its almost impossible to do. Even if you did manage it, you would lose quickly your ability to autorank that way with each rank gained.

npc until your energy is about .91 of the xp needed to level up then dump your energy. you'll get tired after a bit and when you next check in your artifact production should've given you plenty of prisoners. for example a rank 2,500 that need 100k xp to rank up and has 65k energy could use about 5k energy npc'ing then donate 60k energy and autorank this way(a neural was used in the example)


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It all depends on what rank you are ...imo noone should auto on missions till after rank 1k everything b4 that should be npc


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zakwas wrote:
It all depends on what rank you are ...imo noone should auto on missions till after rank 1k everything b4 that should be npc


I wish i kept upgrading my energy, i've been pumping nothing but TO's since rank 400ish. To level i now need to use a neural and a cube/tri/GP energy refill and 2:1 energy ratio :/

Tempted to reset, but i'm not loosing my rifts and everything else i've bought with GP.

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I haven't reached level 1k and I've autoranked a number of mission chains. Pushes the level much higher, but allowed me to quickly get done with the Talth, shai'din, Trellith, etc chains.

That being said, having completed most all of the valuable chains, there isn't much reason to have an energy bar over 10 or 11x my level. Bases rarely last a full energy bar and I only need a neural 1/2 of each levels energy bar to autorank.

Better to have all of those points in TOs.

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