I like how whenever the game changes Noci finds a way to make it into an advantage for him to the point of bullshitness and then blames the game for allowing him to do these things.

I don't believe you could spot an elephant in a flee circus, since I never even had an interview with you to begin with ! LOLOLOL

Judging by your READING COMPREHENSION, I am extremely happy that you rejected me.


Respects & Blessings

You can't complain about having nobody fight when all of the higher levels are in one group and the group's rules sort of imply that they are the only ones allowed to start a fight without somebody getting absolutely trounced.

I find it sad how the more I read post from others in this game the more I lose all respect I had for them. You guys are just posting things here because you are mad at us they have no meaning or merit behind them at all. Coth you are a great guy and I don't know whats going on between you and Noc, and to tell ya the truth I don't really care, but the more I read some of your post the less and less respect I have for ya. You are a great hub of info and I thank you for all the help you gave me and others in the past but lately you have been slamming everyone you could.

Also to integrityseeks, whats with you what did we do to make you hate us besides reject you from us. If that is how you react because you got rejected from us and attacked by one of us then I too am glad you did not make it in. Then you proceed to call us names that is just childish. Get over it and move on.


Atheistbroken we get it you hate us so instead of talking about what your going to do to us here go start you own thread and trash us there.


This is not a thread for you guys to come on and name call and solve personal revenge problems this is a page for us to talk about what our legion and what changes we have made and also for others to ask questions about us and try and learn. You guys are just posting random things for nothing. So please stop and go away. If you don't like what we have done or someone in our group fine like I said before go make a new thread and tell the world all about it. Or do the grown up thing and work it out with the other guy or get over it. Sorry if you don't like what I said here but it needed said and I am sick of reading this trash from everyone.

Thanks for reading and happy hunting.

Also this is not what we are saying at all. If you where to attack me I would not alert you and I think the most of us would do the same. I would only respond to a legion alert on another player if our guy was being attacked over and over with out stop and after our guy tried to ask for peace or a truce that did not take. Then I may attack. If one of our guys alerted someone just because they got disabled by another I would not care and not help him for that he would have to need real help in order for me to help and I think most of our guys would agree.

Well thats just BS, this thread or is for anyone. As soon as I created my group thread it was filled with threats and insults.

Under your rules, your members can attack others but not notify them. If the victim notifies their attacker, then all retribution is treated as offense and can be notified by your group. Your rules seem to supercede that of any other group and sometimes the game itself... and not just by force, but sheer stupidity and ignorance as well. If you think I trust everyone in your group to be a "nice guy" you must think I'm retarded, and I would be inclined to think that of some people in your group that really believe that about everyone else in the group.

I can see how this could be mis used in our legion and I hope it hasn't but I don't know for sure. I would hope they wouldn't because they where the ones who started it and they should finish it.

Also that is why we have the new wingman thing as well that way only one of us attack that player instead of an on slot of all of us. The more I read all this thou the more players seem to be complaining about all this. So I have to ask would you rather us alert and attack like the rest of the legions out there. Just a free for all?? I don't see what you guys are complaining about thou. Yes we do have some of the most powerful players in the game in our legion but who's fault is that?? None of us are forced to stay here and it's not like we where forced in. We are here because this is where we get the best of the game. Most of us like to fight NPC's. I just broke 10K NPC kills. And just so you know that we do kill as many NPC bosses as we say here are a couple pics for you that I have taken on two different days.



We are all about that and most of us don't fight much PVP. A few of us do but not many. I don't see many alerts going out so I don't know what all the drama is about. I kill NPC's and every once in a while if a guy in my battle tab doesn't have any traps on I will attack him. Other than that I don't I welcome anyone to fight me I do enjoy it if they fight back. Invite your legion I will not alert anyone and I know most of the high ranking guys won't either and if they do well that is just embarrassing for them.

OK, let me put it this way. DOO renames itself, but it still has the same rules and the same people and, realistically, the worst of them were some of the higher levels. Probably most of the ones that aren't in the dysonians, admittedly... If you think me changing my name would make me a different person, then I probably had a sex change. Apparently this is why I shouldn't attack people from a certain other DOO group, because the group changed names... you have to be joking.

There is this lofty presumption that your rules supersede that of other groups because of either a lack of understanding or complete ignorance or not just not giving a damn. It would make me feel better if it were the last of the three and someone would just admit it. The power to enforce these rules comes from spending money as opposed to the lack of actual personal experience and ability gained by being on top and hunting NPCs. There has to be something better to do besides stay on top in the most boring way possible. I understand there isn't really a way out of that without giving up everything, but banding together like you have is what is actually makes the game boring for you. I know it is disgusting to see people complain about the game being boring because they poured too much money into it, but the thing that actually propogates it is all the higher-levels being in one group. Despite what all this pat-yourselves-on-the-back propaganda implies, other groups hunt NPCs too.

Mojo my thing with Noci is simply that whenever the game makes a change, he finds a loophole in the system, and then acts like pretentious @$$ about it. Then when people complain about how hes doing this he pulls the old "well if the game allows me to do it then I cant be blamed for my actions" AKA every abusers excuse. Its like how that guild got banned in WoW for abusing siege damage mechanics, its one thing for a loophole to just so happen to work in your advantage its another to look for these and then build your strategy around it when its obvious that what your doing is not what was intended. Which is what Noci does every time theres a patch which limits his power.

Way back Noci had people stampede offenders of any degree, then Action limits were put in, along with Alert limits.
When those were put in, (IDK why maybe this is just coincidence) all of the sudden DOO members had alot more to say when it came to insults. Which wether purposefully or not caused their enemies to go for revenge which made the last two changes pointless in alot of cases.
When legions were finally put in and Dan said (paraphrasing) "I think of every legion as separate entities with no alliances in-between them" idk about you but this to me was him basically saying "All groups above 50 members, disband were making this even for everyone", Noci then made their be several DOO groups.
Then when he realized that there was going to be more focus on inter legion then legion to legion changes he first tried to kick everyone who was weak. And when those DOO members grew a heart they said no, so Noci took he strongest members and quit DOO with them trailing behind.

In conclusion, Noci has with what I can only call abuse at this point of small niches in the game mechanics made himself and his allies powerful at the cost of others in the game. And then whenever the game has been changed he simply changed his strategy so that it still "allows" him to use niches in the game. All the while claiming himself to be perfectly innocent due to the game "allowing" him to do these actions and that he is infact helping the game by pointing these things out. When by simply spending a few minutes think ahead of possible abuses we could have saved the trouble and bullcrap that Noci has put the rest of the community through.

Do I have a respect for Noci for finding these things and using them to his advantage? Yes, but the level at which he does this and the fact that instead of telling people ahead of time he waits for the community to realize they're still being bullcrapped in combination with his pretentiousness, makes me lose that respect.
With this I really have to ask myself, "How much crap has happened simply because Noci acts the way he does?" as well as "How much content has been added simply because PSICOre has some sick addiction to ranking when Dan could have spent that time improving the game?" and the answer is not pretty.
(just to make this clear because people dont seem to get this)I UNDERSTAND THAT DOO IS GOOD TO IT'S MEMBERS, ITS THEIR EFFECT ON THE OVERALL COMMUNITY I'VE HAD A PROBLEM WITH. (notice the past tense because you guys have been fine for the past month or so)

P.S. if you want us to shut up, get your own forum.

P.P.S. Thank you Mojo for not just flat out calling me evil and whatnought, just to let you know im happy to give anyone who asks info that I know wether I agree with your actions or not. Unless your PSICore, everyone else is fine though.

@Spoony.. No. If a dysonian attacks someone and got retaliated by group of defenders helping him then that attacker still can't alert because he caused the mess in the first place. We got several single Dysonians vs entire legions going on already and we still didn't get any alerts so that's good. 1 Dysonian vs a legion is good trade in my opinion.. It helps to shape that Dysonian into better, stronger fighter in PVP environment and it also helps to shape legions into better teamwork so it's a win-win situation for both sides. I only saw alerts from underdog Dysonians who got attacked for no reason and they are the ones who had zero interest in PVP. That's where PVP-oriented Dysonians including me comes in to become their wingmen (Only one wingman assigned to defender) to protect them. It is working nicely now..

@Mojo. Yeah, Coth hates my gut so bad and I even held nothing against him at all. He just hates my style.. I'm merely a betatester to find all loopholes to use and inform and boast in forums about loopholes so Dan can see that problem and fix it. I am very proud of my past contributions to GL that helped to make what is now. GL is alot better and more balanced due to my and DOO's actions in the past. If I do it all over again, I definitely will do it again. WoW is not in a betatesting phase. Also, they kept any exploitation in secret. I always expose loopholes over forums and show them clearly even suggest to make any approaches to fix those loopholes every time I find one.. I'm darn proud to be a betatester.. Heck, look closely to Galaxy Legion title with nice "Beta" attached to it. It means there are loopholes that needed to be pointed out by betatesters like us. Players just hated my guts for using those loopholes. I broke other games during their betatesting phase before in the past simply cuz of lazy developers who developed games too slowly or completely inadept to it.. Dan proved to be very genius developer that I'm proud to help him out in any way I can. I don't give a damn about players complaining about my actions in the past. I don't give a damn about them whining about my or other players' donations to Dan so GL can be better.. I grin every time players made donation cuz I knew it only means that GL will get better.. I don't give any damn about players' perspective about me or my reputation. I am who I am and I like my reputation as is. It helps to scare players off that I worked hard to build as Konqul who bites very hard.. I wanted to be total egomaniac, fearsome, Konqul warrior and It seems is working well. I roleplayed so much in many games over 30 years. Gemstone 4 rocks for roleplaying and still is.. It's sad that today's players do not roleplay anymore.. Roleplay is rather dead and they took my roleplay very seriously but that's good.

@Others.. Sue me for trying to be the best one in any games. It's in my nature to do anything best.. I am champion in many games in the last 30 years with or without money. Heck, I was state champion in chess during high school (200 wins 1 loss) and no one can even cheat in chess and it involved no money. Lol. I am who I am. I am born a die-hard gamer who will strive for the best only if it doesn't require lot of time. Only games that I can't be best is that it requires too much time-sink. I'm only best when it comes to strategy. I'm part-time gamer due to real-life responsibilities so GL is perfect game for part-time gamers like us..

I always like to be first in many things. I'm very competitive and lot of players like that in a leader who likes to competitive by teaming up and do the best as a whole. That attitude really helps me to succeed in a major way in real life.. I'm extremely happy in real life and in games. I couldn't ask for more than I have right now. I am first in several things already in real life as engineer being able to invent several things that no body ever invented in the entire world and yes, I am darn proud of it cuz I knew that I am doing something to help the world out.. I am Deaf (I use ASL as primary language and English as secondary language. Yes, I use hand signs to communicate and I cannot speak) and I am darn proud of it and I kept shocking lot of hearing people that they didn't even realize that deaf person could do it.. I am born to break the stereotype they made of the deaf people for so long and I am darn proud of it.. I'm die-hard alpha male by the way lol in games and in real life.. I'm fiercely protector of my family as father.. I even would sacrifice my life to save my family's life. I am definitely not ashamed by it. It applies the same way in game teams that I am fiercely protector and I am willing to sacrifice to protect them (I offered duels to Kaos knowing that I would die many times just to protect DOO but he refused my duels as example). It defines who I am and helps me to be able to do things that I want to do.. Everytime GL changes, I have to adapt to keep ahead. Sue me for rejecting some players who got mad for being rejected from joining Dysonians. I am only looking out for the best, quality players to be part of Dysonians cuz I want to have everyone on same goals and interests cuz it's a lot easier and it'll create strong bond among Dysonians.. If anyone is odd and unfit, they won't be in.. Yet, they got very angry when they got rejected and bash us anywhere and it's normal. They could simply create new legion so they can be happy in.. Don't blame me for limiting so much due to only 50 spots.. I have to choose players wisely..

@ Chet. Sure, My English and Reading skill is still at Kindergarten level and I am not ashamed to admit it. English is only my second language and it's in fact my weakest skill of all skill sets I possess in real life. I loathe English to death, lol. You can insult my English skill all you want and I don't even care cuz I hate my English skill as well. I write and read the worst than majority of people that you couldn't believe it.. It's just something that I have to live with my poorest skill.. Everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses. English happens to be one of my weakest.. You are correct, I wasn't sure what your GL name was when I saw your forum name and ah, it was Chet.. Yeah, I haven't interviewed you before but I rejected you immediately because you were member of DOO who got kicked out... I sometimes give players 2nd chance but your comments here made me not to give you 2nd chance. Sorry.. It only confirms my reasoning for not accepting you in. You can always join other legions. Dysonians simply isn't for you..

@Coth. Heh. You can view any CEO as evil people (I fully understood them) if they had to lay off weak employees off just to survive under new environment. Businesses must adapt to survive to any new changes or they die. I did the exactly the same way, I play this game as business not to make friends cuz I have way way too many game friends accumulated over 30 years that I certainly am not that interested in making new friends. I am just here to do business as a "boss" to manage the best group. Did you know that I fought lot of high rank players in battle tab via capitulation into DOO (I used that same strategy as in Civilization 4 via domination via capitulation) but when I broke off, lot of those players who I fought chose to stay with me and new legion. I didn't even force them to stay. Dan introduced new legion system and I saw that it's only way to adapt to it very well by breaking off DOO to create new legion cuz doing massive DOO downsizing didn't work at all so best solution is a business spin-off of "new" company to survive good so I did and the result is splendid and I'm glad that I did it and I got branded as "evil" CEO and I don't give a damn about it. I am proud that I did.. and I am enjoying my time very much with the Dysonians Legion. Of course, Dysonians would never exist if it weren't for DOO so I thank DOO for their existance to help to create Dysonians..

Heck, if an American President had to do a massive gov't downsizing just to re-balance budget, he'll be viewed as evil president. Lol. But he definitely is doing the right thing if it ever happens to that and lot of people will be hurt by it but that is only way that USA can survive. It's better to hurt people now than to hurt them even more when USA bankrupts (alot more hurtful).

For example spoony I have been at war for about a week now with someone and actually have had some of his legion attack me now as well, I have not alerted a single one of them to my legion because for the most part I started this whole fight. My main targets get my undivided attention and he know the reason why, as for his legion members well I war them and if they take hostile action I return fire but I only disable them one time with a warning to back off and if they do not then I will deal with that situation as it comes.


To further the situations Will and the legion have decided to implement a new strategy, that we are calling a wing man. The wing man basically let you choose a champion to help you in your battle if you are over matched; this is for defensive support and not meant to be used as an offensive tactic.

All I'm saying is that if the people that actually paid money to get that far ahead didn't all band together to stay on top (in a way that I would find boring), then they would actually have to compete with each other and potentially spend more money, which is the absolute bottom line of what actually helps the game. Maybe not you, or your group, but the actual game. If anyone wants to tell me concisely WHY hunting NPCs is legitimately fun without just explaining that is has the best XP and loot, then feel free. Please try to talk about the concept, and not just yourself.

Silly Noci, i dont hate you. I think you a jerk for not realizing that as a Beta-tester your supposed to tell the devs about loopholes, not use them.

I use and inform Dev.. I use loopholes to be able to find MORE loopholes within loopholes. It's most effective way. Sorry.. Whenever I use loophole while letting Developer know, it only push Developer harder to solve it asap. If I don't use it, someone else will definitely use it and keep it secret and loopholes will take too long to be fixed. It's best to be fixed asap. How? Simply use it to its fullest only to "piss" off developer to work harder.

Well, I assumed wrong about you that you held no hatred. Interesting. Lol..

Ya.......not all of us are Machiavellian Noci

It's like telling some people WHY they love to sew if I really hate to sew? It's just that everyone has their own sets of interests.. It's zero wrong for some people to love NPC hunting that you don't find it interesting. We have no problem with you not interested in NPC hunting and do we really care about your interests? No.. Mind your own business and we mind ours.. Simple. Power to you that you love PVP to death.. We have no problem with that cuz it's just you and your group and your own interests.. Our interests are just different. It's very nice to have legions with their own different sets of interests so everyone can have choice to join what fits their interests best.. Diversity ROCKS..

Well I hunt NPCs too because it helps with XP and loot and that in turn helps me to be competitive actually competing against people rather than just playing side by side in some cosmic sandbox where we are destined to tie every time anyways. NPC hunting to no end in some hope that the developer will be constantly making new big bad bosses that challenge how much energy or conatinment cages you have or how many times you might be able to click the same button doesn't really interest me in and of itself. You guys are already ahead though, so I'm really trying to see the appeal aside from maintaining some self-propagating hegemony that is totally pointless and only for title at the expense of actually playing a game for fun.

so what are you trying to say. our legion is mainly set up to maxamize the attacking of npc. I have posted in many threads about ideas of how to incorporate a massive pvp scare legion on legion wars that would benefit and be challenging to all, but no one seems to want to hear them. So why not go start your own thread and tell us what you really want. Because it is quit obvious all you really want to trash talk the legion for trying to make the best game experience for it members. The legion like to hunt npc, if you do not enjoy that part of the game then fine it ok no one says you have to like it. As for pvp people in the legion still do it, but the main focus of the legion at this time is npcs. I myself have been doing some pvp lately I go threw phases as of today tho I am probably going to go back to npc farming aging for a bit been coming up short for about a week due to a personal war I started. But as I posted in another thread it is a war game pvp is part of it npc are part of it. As of right now are legion has come together to focus on npc to make the group as a whole stronger.

Well if the point of fighting NPCs is to be the most powerful, then there you go. You are the most powerful group and you can only really expect to tie with anyone in the same group as you. You can't really expect to catch up with people who have the same opportunity to fight the same NPCs, unless you are already more powerful and you intend to bogart them. Who are you competing with? An NPC that is essentially destined to lose and barely fights back? Your own group? I just don't understand why it would be fun. I guess I would expect someone to concede the point more than change my mind. There might even be potential changes to fighting NPCs to make it more than just a supplement to something people would consider a legitimate goal. Something to make it entertaining. I assume people work with goals in this game. Aside from killing the next NPC, there has to be something in the future to look forward to.

What really is pointless is to explain to someone an appeal about something already explained which he clearly finds unappealing.



There is no changing your mind, if you find something boring, then it's boring to you. That doesn't mean though that those who enjoy what you find boring must have questionable perspectives which you seem to imply.