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Vanderon
Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:04 am Posts: 232
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I have twice failed to invade a defensless planet.
The planet was a tiny icy, with no defenses, attack, or cloak. I had an attack of 375. So, I invaded it last night and failed with a 90% chance. Then I tried again tonight and failed critically with a 90% chance. I mean WTF, right?
I understand planetary invasions to be the total defense and attack of a planet multiplied by three. The invaders attack is then divided by that number to get a percentage which shows your invasion chance. Since the planet had 0 defenses and weapons, how could it possibly defeat my attack of 375... twice? Have there been new rules introduced?
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:01 am |
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gert
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 7:07 am Posts: 838 Location: South Africa
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the game has done you a favor not getting a 'tiny icy'........i mean what is your reasoning trying to get such a bad planet.
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:08 am |
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Vanderon
Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:04 am Posts: 232
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gert wrote: the game has done you a favor not getting a 'tiny icy'........i mean what is your reasoning trying to get such a bad planet. A big fat green badge.  The other guy is fairly low ranked, so I was hoping he would invade it back...
Last edited by Vanderon on Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:18 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:10 am |
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gert
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 7:07 am Posts: 838 Location: South Africa
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Anybody can correct me here BUT DO Not WAIST YOUR PLANET SPACE ON A TINY if he take's it back he is as lost as you are.....I am not trying to put you down just trying to help you.
If it was a exotic with 10 mega to rift later maybe i understand your reasoning but dude take something somebody wants back
Just saying
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:16 am |
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Vanderon
Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:04 am Posts: 232
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Ok, ok lol I won't invade it, thanks Gert.
But I would still like to know if anyone else has experienced this sort of thing, or if there been new rules introduced regarding invasions of defenceless planets?
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:26 am |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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gert wrote: Anybody can correct me here BUT DO Not WAIST YOUR PLANET SPACE ON A TINY if he take's it back he is as lost as you are.....I am not trying to put you down just trying to help you.
If it was a exotic with 10 mega to rift later maybe i understand your reasoning but dude take something somebody wants back
Just saying ok.. i'll correct you... it's WASTE, not WAIST but you're right... unless you've made arrangements with the other person to steal the planet back and forth for green badges, there's no reason going after such a horribly poor planet
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:55 am |
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romanoid
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:14 pm Posts: 516
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i would be happy if somebody would take my only one tiny....
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:21 am |
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gert
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 7:07 am Posts: 838 Location: South Africa
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Lone.Lycan wrote: gert wrote: Anybody can correct me here BUT DO Not WAIST YOUR PLANET SPACE ON A TINY if he take's it back he is as lost as you are.....I am not trying to put you down just trying to help you.
If it was a exotic with 10 mega to rift later maybe i understand your reasoning but dude take something somebody wants back
Just saying ok.. i'll correct you... it's WASTE, not WAIST but you're right... unless you've made arrangements with the other person to steal the planet back and forth for green badges, there's no reason going after such a horribly poor planet Thanks for correcting me. I do sometimes struggle with English . I am afrikaans. Dus kan ek baie makliker in my eie taal praat maar dankie dat jy my reg help.
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:40 am |
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Vanir
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 108
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I failed with 90% chance on a very massive gas research rich planet...it had no def/attack/pop bonus I had 8 guns, 7 were the highest I could put on, had a crimson obelisk...oh and I lost a crew member.... 
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:08 am |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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on a planet w/ 0 atk and 0 def... it doesn't matter how high or low your attack is.... if the planet is occupied by someone, you still have a maximum 90% chance to invade...
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:30 am |
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2Rusty
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:30 pm Posts: 29
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Vanderon wrote: I have twice failed to invade a defensless planet.
The planet was a tiny icy, with no defenses, attack, or cloak. I had an attack of 375. So, I invaded it last night and failed with a 90% chance. Then I tried again tonight and failed critically with a 90% chance. I mean WTF, right?
That's basic probability for you. When you have 90% chance of success it also means that you have 10% chance of failure. You could fail 10 time in a row. The probability for that happening is wery low, but entierly possible. Why the maximum chance on invasion is set to 90% is a question to game developeres. I personally think that an undefended planet (no defence or attack structures) should give a 100% success rate. As soon as there are some defences on the planet I think a 90% max is nice for the poor defender. This topic belongs in the "Suggestions & Ideas" as there really is no issue failing 2 times when you "only" have a 90% chance of success.
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:25 am |
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Remainder
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:11 am Posts: 556
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It happens 1% of the time.
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:07 pm |
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bradinnes
Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 4:15 pm Posts: 70
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you only failed 2 times in a row ok statistical it happens 1% of the time
but i got a better story i failed to take the same planet with no defense and no building on it what so ever 4 times in a row and i even alerted it to my legion and 2 of them gave it a try and still the planet is in enemy hands, we gave up after one of my comrades criticaly failed and lost a engeneer...
i would complain about it to the game devs but honestly the statistical likely hood of such an event is so low that i am sure my post would be dismissed as a statistical anomaly...
i do however strongly think that unless the planet has some defenses or offensive buildings critical fails should be entirely out for planet invasion do the the detrimental effects on they cause...
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Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:30 pm |
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SteveMcBob
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 374
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Reminds me of this anti-vaxxer I hear say "No amount of science will ever convince me X doesn't cause Y".
The only way you can challenge probabilities is to collect data. GOOD data. Not just random anecdotes about how you failed. You also have to include all the times you succeeded. You need LOTS of samples.
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Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:56 pm |
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Remric
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:52 am Posts: 1742 Location: Bridge of my ship, preparing thousands of my tactical officers for the next battle
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Toxic planet verly large rich in mining I faild with 0 everything.. really really sucks. Grrrrrr. A toxic gerbil twarted my attack.
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Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:27 pm |
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SteveMcBob
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 374
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Remric wrote: Toxic planet verly large rich in mining I faild with 0 everything.. really really sucks. Grrrrrr. A toxic gerbil twarted my attack. Clearly you lack will of warrior. You lose before you even begin. I have will of warrior, want to fight? Haha, I win because I have will of warrior! Rematch? Ok I win again!
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Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:38 pm |
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Remric
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:52 am Posts: 1742 Location: Bridge of my ship, preparing thousands of my tactical officers for the next battle
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SteveMcBob wrote: Remric wrote: Toxic planet verly large rich in mining I faild with 0 everything.. really really sucks. Grrrrrr. A toxic gerbil twarted my attack. Clearly you lack will of warrior. You lose before you even begin. I have will of warrior, want to fight? Haha, I win because I have will of warrior! Rematch? Ok I win again! You completely lost me... I have no idea what you are talking about. Btw hi stevemcbob
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Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:53 pm |
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Lone.Lycan
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:44 am Posts: 3751
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Remric wrote: SteveMcBob wrote: Remric wrote: Toxic planet verly large rich in mining I faild with 0 everything.. really really sucks. Grrrrrr. A toxic gerbil twarted my attack. Clearly you lack will of warrior. You lose before you even begin. I have will of warrior, want to fight? Haha, I win because I have will of warrior! Rematch? Ok I win again! You completely lost me... I have no idea what you are talking about. Btw hi stevemcbob sounds like steve is quoting Futurama
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