They don't have an unlimited supply, I just like to share my good fortune. Even with 7800 cargo space when I am pulling in the AP that I do, I have to give the stuff away

Lol. I ate sooz traps all the time and she always re-erect them up. It's normal during online. but when i ate her traps and she was sleeping then 1 hour later, I killed her and tried to raid/hack but always 0 artiacts 0 RP and I waited 2 hours later and still 0 AP an 0 RP and she was still disabled (cuz she's sleeping).. But WHY 0 AP and 0 RP for almost 3 hours?? Obviously, bot is collecting her resources and her raid restriction stayed the same..

Even that I cannot even collect my resources in my sleep all cuz I am playing it honestly. I never ever use bot at all..

haha ya right.

I have fun with all your legion except you. Your arrogance is outstanding and annoying. It is a special highlight to be able to hack and raid.

I think you guys need to stop the childish banter and have someone clarify what's going on. It really is a serious matter that could really damage the integrity of the game. We have monitored the resource collecting of one individual specifically who collects their resources every hour on the hour. Yes I live on the west coast also, and we have people who live all over the place in various time zones.

I keep a laptop near my bed and will occasionally do things at night, mostly because I have trouble sleeping, but it is nowhere near the precise action of collecting every hour on the hour. The moment the person is online the traps go up and the chatter begins. Unless someone likes waking up every single hour, not just twice a night, this is impossible.

wah boo frickity whoooo.

this is totally hilarious and a huge PR boost for PA. that PA can embarrass a larger legion. once they start losing they cry foul. im sure the dev will tell you whats up. he will likely have the records to prove how we are doing it.

nocifer i understand that you think that they are cheating but the artifacts they are using are quite common i get containment missles all the time and i scrap or give away emps positron clouders and what ever little things i get that i dont really need and i have only a 684/h AP, its not cheating its just luck of the draw really maybe just this time around you didnt get the lucky draw?

Nope. I totally lost respect for Dan. I can't trust him anymore.. It doesn't matter how much he could try to cover up. He can say anything to protect the game. That's totally understandable and it's very normal for developers to say that. I just know now thanks to recent action.. I had cheating developers in the past over 15 years (it didn't happen often cuz they had team and under company. But dan is only one or in team of very few or something and it's normal for him to do anything he can do without any fear from team or company boss to scorn him).. Developers are humans like us and they are not perfect..

I find it funny that we had 5 legions against us and we were doing AWESOME job crushing 4 legions and they stopped fighting mostly with few remaining fighters on their own. PA was doing about same power as other legions. Once 4 legions are "gone" that leaves just PA against us then they got huge boost with unlimited artifacts. Why? Cuz if we crush PA as last legion in the war, The rebellion would be badly demoralized (That was my intention) then re-focus our focus on GD once again 1 vs 1 but since Dan didn't want to risk having unhappy customers on Rebellion side including RL friends and relatives cuz we are just TOO good and powerful. So it's natural that it requires developer intervention to protect them so rebellion won't be demoralize but at the same time kept it low-profile and less obvious but PA was too happy to pour lot of stuff on us all the sudden when 4 legions stopped fighting us. PA could have done that immediately after the war but they didn't simply cuz Dan saw no need of that cuz rebellion was against us as 5 legions but when I created alliance, that's when PA got big power up almost immediately to re-balance..

Looking at raw stats.

Galaxy Desperados (GD)

If you are in for the fun, if you are Rockn Rolla, ruthless but loyal, then Welcome to the Desperados! (trying to get lvl 150 first, and will consider lower if my dog likes you!

Established 3 months ago
Members 47 (98% active)
Average Rank 212
Average Strength 3325


Project Anarchy (PA)

We are teh Uber Leetists of GL. Carving our path in the galaxy with raw power and lulz. Challenge us if you dare, for we are teh Vetzorz of this game, as well as teh pwnzorz. Be afraid. BE AFRAID!(PA)

Established 3 months ago
Members 50 (100% active)
Average Rank 142
Average Strength 2382


Note that PA's average rank is 70 ranks lower than GD (142 to 212). So, PA is 2/3 of the average rank of GD, meaning they have 2/3 as many planets as GD does on average. 2/3 average planets means PA produces 2/3 fewer artifacts on average than GD does. GD has 1,000 more average ship "power" than PA. I'm not sure whether permanent ship stat boosts from artifacts (ship bots, android helmsmen, android scientists, duratium brackets, X-Charge Cells, etc.) are factored into ship strength rating, or if it's just the modules themselves. If the artifact perm bossts are actually factored in, it shows that PA, again, is 2/3 the strength of GD.

GD = 3,325 ship strength
PA = 2,382 ship strength

So thats roughly 2/3, which is in line with 2/3 rank average, and by extension, 2/3 planets due to 2/3 the max planets controlled cap. And then 2/3 income (mining, artis, and research) because of that. With all this in mind, one wonders why GD did not spam the Dysonians with as many traps as PA is doing. Otherwise, the Dysonians would be complaining about GD trap spamming. GD would have 33% more of everything than PA by the law of averages.

Just putting numbers forth- no personal opinions or anything here.

Dan has nothing at all to do with us and our legion. You can believe it or not but it is the truth.

You are only accusing because PA has killed you several times over the last few days and you are not used to it. I get killed by you and your crew most days and I have to admit when you were killing me every time I came back up I was getting a bit aggravated.

You told me you kept attacking me because you like to farm halcs so you could go afk and I was the most reliable source so far. So I quit giving you those and we started getting you back. Seems turn about is good strategy.

I'm in GD. I currently have 120 containment missles, 100 halcyon traps, 90 emps, 125 quantam traps, 134 positron clouders and a crap load of all the other arts. I've also scrapped 50-100 of all these artifacts each in the past. It's not that GD didn't have artifacts to use. It's just a tactic we didn't employ.

Lol. I don't even care about deaths etc. I got killed many times by PSI core and others and I never accuse them of anything cuz they did it honest way.. The oversupply of all PVP artifacts on me and several other Dysonians for 1 week raised a big red flag.. That's what made me wondered about that very obvious thing..

I understand that Dan will say anything to protect the GL and it's very natural thing and frame me and make my accusation false. He has all power. It's normal for one single developer of a game to have all power and it could be corruptible.. I had seen this type happened in other games with 1 developer that got corrupted. Developers do make mistakes.. That's why team of developers helps to reduce the corruption cuz power isn't all in hands of one person..

i dont see how hard it is to understand how its not possible to have these arts... all ihave to say is im going after x in 5 min, i need x. BOOm, i have at lest 3 sending me X. im ready to go fight. then i say X is blasting my traps, i need X. again even if the person only has 2-3, they spare 1. thats just due to hard learned lessons we learned in the Nova war. we work as a unit or we all die.

How much AP per hour do you get, as you're one of the highest ranked players in GL?

Just looks like someone is getting spanked and is looking for a conspiracy to salve his wounded pride

If you believe anyone is botting, just contact us directly and provide any information that you have. That is against the TOS. The Devs do not interfere with the normal operation of the game under any circumstances.

Please try and refrain from posting the childish comments until some explanation comes from this. For this game, this is about as serious as an accusation gets. The reality is Noc and the others are big enough that this kind of thing doesn't matter, they can take artis and whatnot all day long and as I have stated on here before, the smallest ship could kill the biggest ship given enough time, no one cares if someone gets killed. Hunter has killed him several times this week and Noc has congratulated him for it. The point is that if something like this can happen it really ruins the integrity of the game for everyone.

I don't want it to be true, this is one of my favorite games, I think it's great. But if theres even an inkling of truth to it, it would totally ruin it.

Im just saying it looks like he is trying to find a reason why he is gettin spanked and can only come up with someone must be cheating , personally I know its not too hard to imagine that 1 someone has saved a bunch of artifacts 2 people have fed artifacts to the person who will be firing them off 3 that some artifacts may have come from other legions to support the rebellion .

It wasn't just a bunch of artifacts, it was like 500 emps all at once, and its been going like this for days now on not just Noc, but multiple people. We actually thought it was funny, it doesn't do anything except waste artifacts, no one is suffering from it and it's nearly impossible to "spank" anyone in this game with the way its setup, the most you can do is kill Noc and then fail at raiding him with his thousands of tactical officers. I can totally understand that it seems like they could have had them saved or been getting them from various resources but I think, after days of this and thousands of artifacts it started to become suspicious.

Noc is a hard guy to get upset actually, he is always optimistic even when you think you have him overwhelmed and backed into a corner, he is always excited for the attempt to prove you wrong. Cheating however is beyond anything you can overcome, it's incredibly demoralizing to anyone, and I think understandably so.

Putting aside the recent drama with the war and whatnot, we are friends with a lot of people in the game and I wouldn't consider myself really enemies with anyone realistically. I actually enjoy talking to everyone on here including those from the rebellion and yes even Baltar/Spoony. I consider most of it just witty banter and sort of a verbal game with others that can get into the realm of heated debate, but it's still enjoyable on some level and I respect most of the points the other side comes up with.

But this is going beyond that and like I said it's actually upsetting a lot of people. So, if there is any real proof of innocence or guilt it would go a long way for a lot of us.

well let Dan check thru the server logs If someone is running a bot he should be able to see a trend like the every hour on the hour but I dont see how it could be stopped a bot can be set to add a minute here minus 10 there and so forth an so on and even if he set up the game to kick someone after 12 straight hours online would he really want to lock them out for long a bot could just keep trying to log back in until its succesful and rinse and repeat ad nauseum