Well well well, this was some interesting math we got here...

Level 5 bases get a total of 25 production points (5 per level). Assuming you're splitting it evenly, you'll get Very Rich on all productions.

Level 5 bases can have a total of 50 special space, and are able to use +75s. These are 5 size each, and with 12 to fit, you're not getting them all on. Let's say 3 RP, 4 AP, 3 MP.

Current Production:
AP= 2.25*250
RP= 2.25*175
MP= 2.25*175

Now then, onto other bonuses. We get a 40% bonus for each of 50 members (no space for expanders):
(0.5*50)+1=21
Defender bonus is *2
21*2=42
Level bonus is 2000% (*21)
42*21=882

Having fun? Let's add that to the current formula.

AP= 2.25*882*250
RP= 2.25*882*175
MP= 2.25*882*175

So we're looking at a current production oooof:
AP = 496,125
RP = 347,287.5
MP = 347,287.5

That's not counting any ability buffs, which I'll get to now.
The average legion may have around 15 Zolazin/Vygoid. Also, I'm going to assume you'll want at least 1 battle pact, so 9 trade pacts. Most legions have very few miners, so I'll take 5 as a number for them.

AP = 585,427.5
MP = 382,015.7
RP = 451,473.1

Summary of Modules:
4x Rift Fabricator (20 space)
3x Sentience Core (15 Space)
3x Material Transporter (15 Space)
For a total production of:
1,418,916.3 ~ Shanebetten way, no CT Lab, no docking ports

Now I'm going to also assume maxed out bases for research and artifact, starting with AP.

Much of this is the same, with the exception of the availability boost. As such, the raw production is:
AP = 3.5*882*250
AP = 771,750
Now, the difference is that with only 20 space taken by production modules, we have space for all 5 embassies, for 19 trade pacts.
AP = 955,500*1.38=1,065,015
Summary of Modules:
4x Rift Fabricator (20 Space)
5x Embassy (10 Space)
4x Docking Port (16 Space)
1x CT Lab (4 Space)

Thanks to the docking ports, we can add to our loyalty bonus. As such, the formula becomes:
3.5*24.2*21*2*1.38=1,227,303
1,227,303 ~ Pure artifact, CT Lab, 4 Docking Ports, 5 Embassies

For research, it's very similar again. With 20 space for Sentience Cores, and nothing else needed, you can get all 5 docking ports (20 size) AND a CT Lab (4 size), PLUS 6 space left over for Command Beacons. Additionally, we'll have 20% more Vygoid, so now 18.

RP = 3.5*250*25*21*2*1.36
RP = 1,249,500
Summary of Modules:
Sentience Core x4 (20 Size)
Docking Port x5 (20 Size)
CT Lab x1 (4 Size)
Command Beacon x3 (6 size)

1,249,500 ~ Pure research, CT Lab, 5 Docking Ports, 3 Command Beacons.

So take your pick:
Pure Arti: 1,227,303 ~ Pure artifact, CT Lab, 4 Docking Ports, 5 Embassies
Pure RP: 1,249,500 ~ Pure research, CT Lab, 5 Docking Ports, 3 Command Beacons.
Or ShaneBetten: 1,418,916.3 (585,427.5 AP, 382,015.7 MP, 451,473.1 RP) ~ Mixed Productions, No CT Lab, no Docking Ports.


Sure, you get a 13.56% increase in production, but you lose the CT Lab and anything else you might like to install... plus mining and research often aren't as valuable as artifacts.

So, there are the numbers.

If we've all messed up our base productions because we're complete fracking idiots and didn't listen to you, why is it you STILL have one of the worst 1k+ ships in the galaxy?

here is your idiocy as i know you can wiki i now no you have never played this game because i can easily get ten toxic purifiers per level so why in fracks sake would i do anything with minerals at all that and the wiki formulae is wrong pure and simple does not accurately reflect what you get if you were a leader you would know

now i only played for 3 months last year and hate this game want to quit playing it its boring and a total waste of time but i have been single over 11 years and really have nothing to do at all dont like video games or tv and im tired of going in public and seeing tons of happy couple during the day and going to bar watching everyone hook up but me by the way i am very ugly and shy
extremely rich art
ultra rich res
very abundant mining
ct lab i do have and because toxics fall like snow from the sky i didn't buy the extra 4 space for a mining because i basically quit the game last feb
but i would have 4 res mods 4 art mods 1 mineral mod and i do believe i dont feel like checking if you sorted a couple of the lower mineral mods into the 6 you might pull more than the 5 im not sure its 4 am

this game has dropped half its player base in the last 2 months so i am not the only one its a shame it is the only nrg stamina tic based game that allows trading

Now for your idiocy...

1) Your posts are hard to make sense of. Your words appear to be arranged at random, and everything you say kind of merges into each other, making each point hard to distinguish.

2) I am a leader, so I do know what I'm talking about. As is Darth, as is Preliator, as is Varun, as I believe is KJ(?). Oh, and Ben also.

3) You mention 3 trillion output. That is wrong, pure and simple.

4) No-one really cares about your life problems. We're not your therapist.

5) Lemme re-work the maths for the production spread you mentioned.

AP = 2.5*882*250 = 551,250
RP = 2.75*882*250 = 606,375
MP = 1.5*882*75 = 99,225

Add in bonuses...

AP = 650,475
RP = 788,287.5
MP = 109,147.5

1,547,909 total (24% increase) with CT Lab
24% increase I can believe (not 250%), but since RP and MP are largely useless after a point, pure artifacts still tends to be the way to go, particularly if you do not have room for expanders.

6) I dunno what you're going on about the wiki for. I don't know who here even used it... (which reminds me - I should make a calculator to calculate base production)

7) Why're you playing if you're bored of the game and want to quit?

8) And if you quit, why're you on the forums even?

i dont know where you get your math from but granted i never had more than 30 members but at 30 members its was 30 25 12 at 5 which is so low a year later i cant get a single person to join
also i got higher every loyal member i got so dont try to say that it gets lower and i had no trade pacts at all
no vygoids or zolazins either and maybe 1 miner thats on the random chance that 1 of your 4 legions actually let it go ten days without being disabled which ocassionally happened

why am i playing this at 4am because you guys crack me the hell up its like constant fracking ragging on me why? because i payed to play and had a worse ship for it yes its true i never hit a npc till past level 500 other than the mission ones or badged at all by then i was so terribly far behind in every aspect of the game and most of the planets i did take were all research because of my monetary jumpstart and yall insisted that i should have bought shipbots at 2.5 dollars apiece when you were getting dozens of them a day lol resc prisoners npcs start at level 5 in a good legion with good advice i probably would have had tons of alerts for planets and mods and stuff anyways i dont have anything to do and let me ask you a question is it fair that i spent 3k in the game and i have a glass ship no probably not but it did take me 4 months to get to level 100 without cash i would be lucky to be level 400 now

The formula for production is:

modules*loyalty*level*defender*ability*richness

In my later post, I simplified it to:
modules*otherbonuses*richness*ability
where otherbonuses = loyalty*level*defender

You have numbers plucked from the air. I have cold hard facts, cleanly laid out in front of you for you to see.

Of course, if you notice I agreed that your set up produces more, merely that it's only 24% and NOT 250%.

EDIT:
A 250% increase is 3-and-a-half times as much as normal. If you can show me a base producing even close to 4.375M, I'll admit you're right. Maybe 3M even. All at level 5...

At level 6, of course, these numbers will be considerably higher and if you really desperately want me to run them, I can. I don't suspect your methods are something that gets better with age though.

You spent $3k and dont have a badass ship by now? You must have bought all the wrong things... If i had that money I would have bought nothing but qse's and terraformers pretty much. But oh well... hindsight is 20/20 huh? Get your AP up and you will recover eventually.

fixed, now go away.

well guy if you were 31 and been alone 11 years you might just blow money on #&$# you dont give a fivin rats behind about too i used too get so lonely i would blow it on drugs till i went to jail its not that the drugs weren't mildly enjoyable its just that nothing in life is that great without romance another clothing store restaurant bar coffee shop everywhere in the world

*sigh* time to grab Fluttershy. she wont be happy i woke her up so early.

and the women i was with were in there 40s because i was a ugly broke loser and piece of crap when you get there fracking millions and millions of moments from now i want you to look down at her ugly nasty but and see how enjoyable it is

In fact, yes, the production detiorates as you get more members:


Btw, you seem like you'd be better off on match.com. Just sayin'

(And yes. I did remember to add the 1s to the values in the output... I was surprised they were so low too, but they match the earlier figures. Is there a buff I am missing somewhere?)

figure the stuff out at level 8 and if im wrong about ti being alot more productive i'll quit the game and not necessarly evenly give art a reasonable boost level 5 that dont impress me either way we work it its not even an hour

ok stupid question how much research is it for level 8 with just 2 production points and the mods and only 50 people