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Follyuu
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:20 pm Posts: 1195 Location: The Milky Way
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Galvatron, as a bit of friendly advice, this is the second time now you have come to the forums practically advertising that you are currently in a weakened base. It's not surprising then that you are being targeted more frequently, since now people are being given evidence straight from the horses mouth that you are good for easy silvers. My suggestion is to stop bringing your legion base up at least until you have everything back to a safe level.
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Galvatron
Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:37 pm Posts: 210
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All i was saying is that i had an unlucky streak, but again you guys on the forums have a way of mob ganging up on people and completely overeacting to what people say or do, i had a bad streak, thats it. You guys have a way of thread jacking and over analysing situations and getting the masses to alienate people on the forums.
Annabell, seriously how about reading the whole thing from scratch and see that your mixing words to get things out of control!
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Phire Ant
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:26 pm Posts: 307
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Galvatron wrote: All i was saying is that i had an unlucky streak, but again you guys on the forums have a way of mob ganging up on people and completely overeacting to what people say or do, i had a bad streak, thats it. You guys have a way of thread jacking and over analysing situations and getting the masses to alienate people on the forums.
Annabell, seriously how about reading the whole thing from scratch and see that your mixing words to get things out of control! Galvatron don't waste your time with self pity, instead divert your effort into recruiting so you have a more diverse amount of players who can be online while your base is being attack; to protect your beloved base.
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Wed May 30, 2012 12:12 am |
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Annabell
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 7:33 pm Posts: 1988 Location: Aboard Blackwood Hall
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Galvatron wrote: Annabell, seriously how about reading the whole thing from scratch and see that your mixing words to get things out of control! Nothing on my end of this is out of control, I haven't used a single exclamation point nor caps lock for anything, I simply was voicing a commentary to try and help you and others, but clearly your vast leadership knowledge did not need any input, and you instead just wanted some place to whine about bad luck, when it actually has little to do with chance and likely more to do with a namesake derived from a focal point of madness given form, that is blind to all but his lust for power; sacrificing his whims and desires in a moment's rage, such that not even his own subordinates are safe from his unpredictability and his casual disregard for any and all other life, be they friend or foe alike.
Best of luck to you and the Decepticons.
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Wed May 30, 2012 12:16 am |
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Nebuchadnezzar
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:11 am Posts: 306
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Sorry Galvatron, I'm afraid you have a better chance of bring down the Chesterton base than winning this argument against her. Simply too eloquent, articulate and well thought out...time to bow down to superior intellect and hope you stay off the radar until you can build up your base.
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Wed May 30, 2012 1:13 am |
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BrotherGrim
Joined: Fri May 25, 2012 1:10 am Posts: 20
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When a base goes down that always sucks. It always annoyed me to no end. The only advise I can give you is to make sure you have some officers to fire up modules and if the base is a level 3 base to get it to Level 4. Level 3 bases are always targeted for easy silvers by every experienced corp. Some poorly designed Level 3 bases I have seen can be taken down by 2 or 3 ranked players. At level 4 just try to make you base a pain in the ass to kill. Hopefully you will get a break from the target locks and have more fun. Brothergrim Galvatron wrote: Starting to feel like i am really unlucky, but in the space of 4 days our base, Cybertron has been disabled 3 times and each time i have been offline, and i am normally online most of the time! Just felt like venting my anger 
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Wed May 30, 2012 1:32 am |
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sionfor
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:20 am Posts: 249
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I so wanted to give Annabell a like for her last comment!
With a name like Galvatron you gotta have thicker skin and allow any perceived slights to just roll of like water off a ducks back.
We at Entaro Bob have been hit 9 times but that was due to trying to go all attack power and minimal defense. we corrected that to a ratio of 2.6 to 1. Like Annabell said it takes a lot of time and member input to create a truly strong base and even then you can still expect to be disabled by a stronger legion with the right allies.
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Jawwa
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:12 am Posts: 497
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Thick skin = good
It's a simple fact that any base can and will go down, whether it's a level 7 or a tiny level 3. There is no way to truly prevent it because to a certain extent the art of base fighting has been perfected through many long and grueling base fights. Also, ships are much stronger than what they were back in the day. The best a legion can hope to do is to make it unpalatable to take their base down via the use of a turtle design combined with a legion full of fixers. But even with all that, make no mistake that if someone is willing to put in the effort (i.e. e refills, repair nanodrones, etc) the base is going down.
Now Galvatron, I'd ignore most of the comments. If bases bigger and better than yours are going down, it's not surprising your level 4 went down. It's to be expected until you finally get your legion whipped in to shape. What Anna fails to recognize in her comments is that there are so many options for players out there to go to legionwise that bases have to be pushed to ensure a payout that will draw in players. It's VERY hard to draw people in with a piddly little level 3 because the payouts are chump change compared to everyone else who has evolved beyond that level of play but still wants/needs lower levels to come in and boost their legion's numbers.
So don't worry about it. Expect a disable or three and just keep building people up. Run contests to keep people active and above all else just be active and helpful. An active comm also goes a long way. Soon you'll find your base is a tough nut to crack and you'll be complaining about levelling your base to a 5 and having it disabled almost immediately. It's a war game. Them's the breaks.
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Galvatron
Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:37 pm Posts: 210
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Bark of the Sun
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:48 am Posts: 37
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Jawwa wrote: Thick skin = good
It's a simple fact that any base can and will go down, whether it's a level 7 or a tiny level 3. There is no way to truly prevent it because to a certain extent the art of base fighting has been perfected through many long and grueling base fights. Also, ships are much stronger than what they were back in the day. The best a legion can hope to do is to make it unpalatable to take their base down via the use of a turtle design combined with a legion full of fixers. But even with all that, make no mistake that if someone is willing to put in the effort (i.e. e refills, repair nanodrones, etc) the base is going down.
Now Galvatron, I'd ignore most of the comments. If bases bigger and better than yours are going down, it's not surprising your level 4 went down. It's to be expected until you finally get your legion whipped in to shape. What Anna fails to recognize in her comments is that there are so many options for players out there to go to legionwise that bases have to be pushed to ensure a payout that will draw in players. It's VERY hard to draw people in with a piddly little level 3 because the payouts are chump change compared to everyone else who has evolved beyond that level of play but still wants/needs lower levels to come in and boost their legion's numbers.
So don't worry about it. Expect a disable or three and just keep building people up. Run contests to keep people active and above all else just be active and helpful. An active comm also goes a long way. Soon you'll find your base is a tough nut to crack and you'll be complaining about levelling your base to a 5 and having it disabled almost immediately. It's a war game. Them's the breaks. This is simply not true, I started in this game when Vygoid Genome had five players with an Average Rank of 21 and a Level 2 Base. It was not our payout that drew people in, it was exceptional leadership, quality teamwork, and an unwavering vision.
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Wed May 30, 2012 3:50 pm |
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BlackheartedKnight
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:43 am Posts: 460
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Bark of the Sun wrote: Jawwa wrote: Thick skin = good
It's a simple fact that any base can and will go down, whether it's a level 7 or a tiny level 3. There is no way to truly prevent it because to a certain extent the art of base fighting has been perfected through many long and grueling base fights. Also, ships are much stronger than what they were back in the day. The best a legion can hope to do is to make it unpalatable to take their base down via the use of a turtle design combined with a legion full of fixers. But even with all that, make no mistake that if someone is willing to put in the effort (i.e. e refills, repair nanodrones, etc) the base is going down.
Now Galvatron, I'd ignore most of the comments. If bases bigger and better than yours are going down, it's not surprising your level 4 went down. It's to be expected until you finally get your legion whipped in to shape. What Anna fails to recognize in her comments is that there are so many options for players out there to go to legionwise that bases have to be pushed to ensure a payout that will draw in players. It's VERY hard to draw people in with a piddly little level 3 because the payouts are chump change compared to everyone else who has evolved beyond that level of play but still wants/needs lower levels to come in and boost their legion's numbers.
So don't worry about it. Expect a disable or three and just keep building people up. Run contests to keep people active and above all else just be active and helpful. An active comm also goes a long way. Soon you'll find your base is a tough nut to crack and you'll be complaining about levelling your base to a 5 and having it disabled almost immediately. It's a war game. Them's the breaks. This is simply not true, I started in this game when Vygoid Genome had five players with an Average Rank of 21 and a Level 2 Base. It was not our payout that drew people in, it was exceptional leadership, quality teamwork, and an unwavering vision. I doubt he was referring to any specific legion. More likely, he was speaking in general terms that apply to current events, not past ones.
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Wed May 30, 2012 3:54 pm |
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Bark of the Sun
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:48 am Posts: 37
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BlackheartedKnight wrote: Bark of the Sun wrote: Jawwa wrote: Thick skin = good
It's a simple fact that any base can and will go down, whether it's a level 7 or a tiny level 3. There is no way to truly prevent it because to a certain extent the art of base fighting has been perfected through many long and grueling base fights. Also, ships are much stronger than what they were back in the day. The best a legion can hope to do is to make it unpalatable to take their base down via the use of a turtle design combined with a legion full of fixers. But even with all that, make no mistake that if someone is willing to put in the effort (i.e. e refills, repair nanodrones, etc) the base is going down.
Now Galvatron, I'd ignore most of the comments. If bases bigger and better than yours are going down, it's not surprising your level 4 went down. It's to be expected until you finally get your legion whipped in to shape. What Anna fails to recognize in her comments is that there are so many options for players out there to go to legionwise that bases have to be pushed to ensure a payout that will draw in players. It's VERY hard to draw people in with a piddly little level 3 because the payouts are chump change compared to everyone else who has evolved beyond that level of play but still wants/needs lower levels to come in and boost their legion's numbers.
So don't worry about it. Expect a disable or three and just keep building people up. Run contests to keep people active and above all else just be active and helpful. An active comm also goes a long way. Soon you'll find your base is a tough nut to crack and you'll be complaining about levelling your base to a 5 and having it disabled almost immediately. It's a war game. Them's the breaks. This is simply not true, I started in this game when Vygoid Genome had five players with an Average Rank of 21 and a Level 2 Base. It was not our payout that drew people in, it was exceptional leadership, quality teamwork, and an unwavering vision. I doubt he was referring to any specific legion. More likely, he was speaking in general terms that apply to current events, not past ones. And I'm saying great leaders don't need tinfoil bases or special payouts to draw in talent no matter what the alleged current events are.
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Wed May 30, 2012 3:59 pm |
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Jawwa
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No offense Bark, but how will someone know about the great leadership? When a player looks for a legion, they look for concrete factors of what the legion will give them and not an ephemeral leadership quality (especially as different people respond to different kinds of leadership). It gets reduced down to numbers and a person makes a leap. The smart ones try out legions until they find the right fit.
I will however agree with you that once they're IN the legion, the leadership abilities can then shine through. But until then it's pure advertising. Without word of mouth from friends you're left with the pure metrics of Lvl 5 that pays out 28k vs Lvl 3 that pays out 5k. Which would you pick?
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Wed May 30, 2012 4:41 pm |
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Bark of the Sun
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Jawwa wrote: No offense Bark, but how will someone know about the great leadership? When a player looks for a legion, they look for concrete factors of what the legion will give them and not an ephemeral leadership quality (especially as different people respond to different kinds of leadership). It gets reduced down to numbers and a person makes a leap. The smart ones try out legions until they find the right fit.
I will however agree with you that once they're IN the legion, the leadership abilities can then shine through. But until then it's pure advertising. Without word of mouth from friends you're left with the pure metrics of Lvl 5 that pays out 28k vs Lvl 3 that pays out 5k. Which would you pick? All I can say is dozens and dozens of players joined VG because of the in game and forum buzz about the quality leadership and suspected momentum. Ask anyone who was there, on an average day ten to twenty requests sat idle, because so many were applying, and by your estimation it must have been because they all wanted to get their hands on 5k RP/day.
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Darth Flagitious
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Bark of the Sun wrote: Jawwa wrote: No offense Bark, but how will someone know about the great leadership? When a player looks for a legion, they look for concrete factors of what the legion will give them and not an ephemeral leadership quality (especially as different people respond to different kinds of leadership). It gets reduced down to numbers and a person makes a leap. The smart ones try out legions until they find the right fit.
I will however agree with you that once they're IN the legion, the leadership abilities can then shine through. But until then it's pure advertising. Without word of mouth from friends you're left with the pure metrics of Lvl 5 that pays out 28k vs Lvl 3 that pays out 5k. Which would you pick? All I can say is dozens and dozens of players joined VG because of the in game and forum buzz about the quality leadership and suspected momentum. Ask anyone who was there, on an average day ten to twenty requests sat idle, because so many were applying, and by your estimation it must have been because they all wanted to get their hands on 5k RP/day. That kinda falls under "word of mouth" that Jawwa mentioned.
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Wed May 30, 2012 4:59 pm |
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Bark of the Sun
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Darth Flagitious wrote: Bark of the Sun wrote: Jawwa wrote: No offense Bark, but how will someone know about the great leadership? When a player looks for a legion, they look for concrete factors of what the legion will give them and not an ephemeral leadership quality (especially as different people respond to different kinds of leadership). It gets reduced down to numbers and a person makes a leap. The smart ones try out legions until they find the right fit.
I will however agree with you that once they're IN the legion, the leadership abilities can then shine through. But until then it's pure advertising. Without word of mouth from friends you're left with the pure metrics of Lvl 5 that pays out 28k vs Lvl 3 that pays out 5k. Which would you pick? All I can say is dozens and dozens of players joined VG because of the in game and forum buzz about the quality leadership and suspected momentum. Ask anyone who was there, on an average day ten to twenty requests sat idle, because so many were applying, and by your estimation it must have been because they all wanted to get their hands on 5k RP/day. That kinda falls under "word of mouth" that Jawwa mentioned. She had a great advertising campaign too, just ask Lone.Lycan. 
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Epicownage
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EDIT: Look below I accidentaly double posted.
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Wed May 30, 2012 6:14 pm |
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Epicownage
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Annabell wrote: I'm not trying to single you out, it's nothing personal, just an observation and more generalized comment about the galaxy as a whole, though your original post and recent response tend to prove my point.
There was a time when a legion dug down deep and earned each level of their base. The leveling up event was a momentous occasion and signified the culmination of a joint endeavor that a group of individuals combined forces and strove for. The higher rankers in each legion divided up the required research to be able to build the various tactical modules necessary to defend their investment as they progressed, and spent countless hours NPCing to accumulate the necessary CTP, as well as the most important aspect of any base, the adequate hourly mining income to afford it.
A well built legion base has maxed out the tactical space by a dedicated group of players pooling their resources to collectively shoulder the load. The modules they can afford to install themselves, and maintain the upkeep for on their own base, is directly dependent upon the hourly income of the ships in the legion.
This is a concept that those who have bought or been given everything cannot grasp, because they did not earn it. As a result their bases are quite often far weaker than their steadily improved counterparts and subsequently these "fashionable" Level 5s are easy pickings comparatively. Well said +1.
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namalak
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Annabell wrote: There was a time when a legion dug down deep and earned each level of their base. The leveling up event was a momentous occasion and signified the culmination of a joint endeavor that a group of individuals combined forces and strove for. The higher rankers in each legion divided up the required research to be able to build the various tactical modules necessary to defend their investment as they progressed, and spent countless hours NPCing to accumulate the necessary CTP, as well as the most important aspect of any base, the adequate hourly mining income to afford it.
A well built legion base has maxed out the tactical space by a dedicated group of players pooling their resources to collectively shoulder the load. The modules they can afford to install themselves, and maintain the upkeep for on their own base, is directly dependent upon the hourly income of the ships in the legion.
This is a concept that those who have bought or been given everything cannot grasp, because they did not earn it. Aww... I built mine up all myself, it must be pretty shoddy... and while I spent months trading, making deals, and getting my resources to adequate for funding a full legion and base, I probably didn't earn it... 
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Wed May 30, 2012 8:03 pm |
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Epicownage
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namalak wrote: Annabell wrote: There was a time when a legion dug down deep and earned each level of their base. The leveling up event was a momentous occasion and signified the culmination of a joint endeavor that a group of individuals combined forces and strove for. The higher rankers in each legion divided up the required research to be able to build the various tactical modules necessary to defend their investment as they progressed, and spent countless hours NPCing to accumulate the necessary CTP, as well as the most important aspect of any base, the adequate hourly mining income to afford it.
A well built legion base has maxed out the tactical space by a dedicated group of players pooling their resources to collectively shoulder the load. The modules they can afford to install themselves, and maintain the upkeep for on their own base, is directly dependent upon the hourly income of the ships in the legion.
This is a concept that those who have bought or been given everything cannot grasp, because they did not earn it. Aww... I built mine up all myself, it must be pretty shoddy... and while I spent months trading, making deals, and getting my resources to adequate for funding a full legion and base, I probably didn't earn it...  I think Anna was talking about the good old days as in before rank 1k's were around and before there were high ranks to sell millions of resources to each other.
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