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personally, and I'm totally speaking for myself here, I could care less if someone is running a bot while they sleep. It really is a trivial matter when it concerns an individual and even less meaningless when its something as silly as collecting resources over night. Up until a week or two ago everyone would have been collecting their resources uninterrupted anyway.

It becomes a concern when Dan's brother is playing the game and accusations start flying, to me thats cause for serious concern. Without some form of proof though it's simply left to the imagination, and trust me, the imaginations are pretty lively around here.

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who is dan's bro? does dan even have a ship?

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Dan's brother is hunter, and Dan's ship is Darkstar. Although I don't think Dan has ever done anything with it except test out new things hes trying to implement in the game. I know he puts it about 50 levels ahead of Psicore, so I assume thats what he is doing.

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i dont see how hard it is to understand how its not possible to have these arts... all ihave to say is im going after x in 5 min, i need x. BOOm, i have at lest 3 sending me X. im ready to go fight. then i say X is blasting my traps, i need X. again even if the person only has 2-3, they spare 1. thats just due to hard learned lessons we learned in the Nova war. we work as a unit or we all die.


I will certianly give you guys credit there, you definately learned fast. You were the first legion we've gone up against that we didn't steam roll, utterly rip apart, and moonwalk over.

Traps, specifically Halcyon traps, are imo, realy becoming a major problem with pvp because they're efectively killing it. Pvp should be more about group coordination and effective use of ALL artifacts. Even though many pvp artifacts are extreame in their abundance, the far lesser rarity of containment missles, containment cages and calming amps basically means after so many they're realy just extra creds. (Although at your guys' higher production levels even these might not be nearly rare enough) This couple with the fact that most of the effects of pvp traps arnt realy game breaking in and of themselves doesn't realy make them overpowered.

But Halc traps, just by their nature and abundance just completely bring pvp to a stand still. I mean when it's to the point where when you hit a person you get halced again, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, and a gain, eventually you just get to the point of why even bother attacking. The effect itself isn't so bad if you run into it from time to time, but every time you attack someone is just rediculous. I've been seriously meaning to place a post under the suggestions and ideas about these.


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I will certianly give you guys credit there, you definately learned fast. You were the first legion we've gone up against that we didn't steam roll, utterly rip apart, and moonwalk over.


well we kinda had to. a little secret is that you had me to 0 halcs, 0 virus, and 0 omicrons for a day or so. i think i died 3x in a day. we had severe shortages just weeks after the war started with Nova way back. typically each member is a bit stingy with giving stuff out for free. the thing that changed that is that Nova was killing everything in sight and even the pacifists needed to do something about it. those not able to fight shared artifacts with those main fighters. it did not happen overnight, we evolved into it. the logic was that a artifact in my hands will do more good than one in theirs. i typically did most the fighting anyway. so it is understandable to be receiving the majority of the artifacts. i also shared out my artifacts to them as sell. they told me in comms that Nova was blasting though their hack traps so i sent them 5 at a time. i sent halcs in 2's even though i was low. i could always depend on someone to give me one in a hurry. in addition we found out that some members sooz, neruk, and caine all had huge stocks. Caine doesnt PvP so he was giving out pretty much all he could spare. sooz and neruk gave them out as needed. just recently i have been struggling to get enough emp, and manips. i have been contacting allies to see if they have surpluses. so far i have transferred to them my surplus to divide, and they transferred combat arts. rebellion non combat legions ftw. the more time goes on, we will find new ways to keep our stocks high. we will adapt to all game changes and all chalenges.

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I do actually LOVE to tank and take lot of damage and even dying. I'm quite veteran at that. I am ALWAYS tank in all MMOs I played as shadowknight, paladin, warriors, etc. I never liked other classes. I designed my ship as tank as expected and I actually am enjoying sucking up so many artifacts from PA cuz it does feel GOOD. Dying is just part of tank personalty that I'm used to it for decades.. Heck, I lost nothing in this war. I haven't lost any planets and I gained 6 rare+ planets off rebellion. I'm stronger than before thanks to war. Etc.. But idea of biased quickly pisses me off and nearly breaks me no matter if I am doing awesome job etc. I Just can't stand cheat or biased period. I have zero tolerance about that..

But only one thing that actually breaks my faith in playing is broken integrity of the game or very biased game.. Those games are always what I stop playing or avoid altogether. PA stands out like sore thumb from rest and PA is only legion that has very strong relationship with Dan that is very difficult to stay unbiased. I had known about PA RL friends/brother for long time and it didn't bother me because they didn't stand out as biased before. Well they did once when Dan DarkStar was part of PA when legion system got implemented and readers complained about that so he had to get out..
When the war goes on and we crushed 4 legions into corner leaving just PA, all the sudden, they poured artifacts like free water for a week that no other legions had done before even we don't have that kind of PVP supply no matter if we have much superior AP production.. Also, Sooz was botting in her sleep for collecting resources, etc. Too many coincidences are falling in same bucket.

What I am seeing is that.. When war starts, Dysonians vs GD.. No biased is happening.. and we are winning so that encouraged them to rally up to 5 legions total against us trying to re-balance and launched blitz planet invasion (as I was expecting cuz I warned Dysonians to FORTIFY up their planets before my declaration) but some didn't so they asked for it.. Then we re-claimed most plus we gained more planets... I didn't want to see rebellion to start growing plus we miss having DOO around so that gave me good opportunity to create an alliance that will be awesome for our morale and demoralize the rebellion. I always love psychological warfare as usual so that's why I did that.. Then 4 legions quickly backed out. Heck, PA was doing the same as other legions doing no difference. Nothing special that speaks "BIASED". We are winning nicely then.. BOOM. PA has nice PVP items supply power-up that they never bothered to use against DOO or others in the past..
To me, if a developer didn't want game to be ruined by powerful legion. He couldn't disband us simply cuz it only creates us as martyrs and alienate customers. Also, he couldn't let rebellion to "lose" badly that would also demoralize other category of customers encouraging them to quit game plus couldn't let RL friends and relatives to have their butt whipped by us badly and might lose them. He was in catch-22 situation so he had to intervene to aid PA to keep rebellion going and keep that category of customers happy by secretly supplying unlimited PVP items so he won't lose those players while not disbanding us so that seems is win-win situation for Dan to keep game going.. But mistake that PA made was to reveal the unlimited supply of PVP items especially at that timing of war phase when 4 legions backed down and PA got powered up that fast with endless PVP items that raised a big red flag.. If GD has power up like PA did, we wouldn't even suspect anything cuz GD isn't Dan's pet legion. It's rather hard to ignore that only PA (It's actually Dan's pet legion) out of all legions suddenly stands out.. That's rather big coincidence.. Also, since I flagged sooz for botting, all the sudden.. She has resources saved up in her sleep instead of auto-collecting cuz spotlight is on her now.

"The probe returns with data:
Ship has the following resources:
Research Points: 36550, Artifact Points: 18330, Mineral Units: 1260" That's rather another obvious coincidence.. Gee.. That's why it's rather hard to ignore..

I am willing to overlook that biased idea and continue to play. I just hope that my message gets to Dan that biased is NOT allowed at any cost. I want PA to play honest.. If they do play honest in the past and they had gotten better then that's AWESOME! We love the challenge as always and I'm gladly to fight them in honest way even with all debuffs on me and others. I do feel great but biased is big NO-NO.. It's simply not allowed. It's never good for game integrity.. RL friends and relatives must have no special treatments PERIOD. They must play on same playing field as rest of the players.

They claim that they are playing the game unbiased and Dan claim that he doesn't intervene. I just have to accept their words and play cuz this game is my #1 FB game of all the time and I ain't quitting cuz of baised. I just hope that they did play it right without Dan's help so far. It's hard to ignore this but I will try to ignore it and continue to play and forget about it.. It's first time that I didn't quit game when I see baised or developers' involvement. Plus, I didn't want to quit to demoralize my awesome comrades. We have awesome game community that I don't want to leave so I am willing to stay for them and help them out and keep game exciting.. At least, I got my message out that what I felt lately about suspected compromised integrity of the game..

Anyway, bring it on and throw all you can on me. :D I know you all hate me. That's no problem lol. My accusation against PA only makes them madder and want to kill me more. That's even better. I love to tank for Dysonians. :) I fully expected that my death climbs up and already prepared for it for long time when I declared war. One thing I didn't even expect was that I didn't die often during first war stage when 5 legions were on us that kinda surprised me. It's just part of tanking role that I'm very used to for decades. It's NO problem. But I do have big problem with cheats and biased if it actually happened.. That's all. Hey, don't bother to tell me that you lost respect for me or whatever. I don't give a friggin' care. I do not seek respect from anybody at all. I just do what I play. I never depends on people's opinions either positive or negative way about me. I even don't care if people congratulate me for anything as well. I just do what leaders always do. Do the thankless job and I'm very accustomed to. I don't even require thank-you from anybody that I help or lead. It's not even necessary. Same for negative insults or loss of respect etc. That's what makes leaders strong by the immunity against people's opinions of both sides..

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well we did not need emp or any other vs DOO because myself and maudib were STRONGER. it would have need a waste. i would say that the only reason you have an issue is that all of a sudden we jumped all over YOU. i think its the last 2 days really. i personally was going to leave you out of it and go shot per shot. you quickly escalated by attacking every hour. so ok, what you are experiencing is not a week in progress. its only a few days old. ill bet you all have a massive supply as well. you all might just suck at sharing it all. PA is a tight bunch. prob the best organized, the most battle hardened legion out there. war is not new to us!

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Nocifer, The devs aren't trying to screw you. It is impossible to drain the artifacts of 200 people. Trust me, I've tried.

They certainly don't favor PA. Coth got banned a week ago and hunter got banned just recently for some pretty dubious reasons.

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so coth and hunter are no mas?

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Nocifer, The devs aren't trying to screw you. It is impossible to drain the artifacts of 200 people. Trust me, I've tried.

They certainly don't favor PA. Coth got banned a week ago and hunter got banned just recently for some pretty dubious reasons.

If Coth got banned can I take his Gaia I found?

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Nocifer, The devs aren't trying to screw you. It is impossible to drain the artifacts of 200 people. Trust me, I've tried.

They certainly don't favor PA. Coth got banned a week ago and hunter got banned just recently for some pretty dubious reasons.

If Coth got banned can I take his Gaia I found?


Coth was banned from the forum not the game,but yeah sure try and take his Gaia but beware you'll be alerted to the legion :evil:

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zophah wrote:
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Nocifer, The devs aren't trying to screw you. It is impossible to drain the artifacts of 200 people. Trust me, I've tried.

They certainly don't favor PA. Coth got banned a week ago and hunter got banned just recently for some pretty dubious reasons.

If Coth got banned can I take his Gaia I found?


Coth was banned from the forum not the game,but yeah sure try and take his Gaia but beware you'll be alerted to the legion :evil:


Banned for what? I haven't seen Coth do anything ban-worthy in the forums. No severe trolling, hacking, death threats, multi-accounts, etc. I may be wrong though.


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Threadjacking is a crime.

Loving the sig...

The PR guy should read this one really.


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Nocifer Deathblade wrote:


Anyway, bring it on and throw all you can on me. :D I know you all hate me. That's no problem lol.

We Don't Hate You atleast I don't your role play style makes the game interesting and you make a great target for all the wanna be superstars

I never depends on people's opinions either positive or negative way about me. I even don't care if people congratulate me for anything as well. I just do what leaders always do. Do the thankless job and I'm very accustomed to. I don't even require thank-you from anybody that I help or lead. It's not even necessary. Same for negative insults or loss of respect etc. That's what makes leaders strong by the immunity against people's opinions of both sides..

Spoken Like a True Leader of Warriors


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