War is breaking out all across the galaxy. Multiple legions are being involved on both sides of all wars. I say that to be able to coordinate among the involved legions, that we be allowed to create coalitions. These coalitions can allow planets and players to be shared among all legions in the coalition. The coalitions can only be created by the initial legion that declares war, and it will end once the initial legion declares peace, disbanding the coalition. Legions can join through an invitation, and leave of their own accord. Also, we need to be able to declare war or peace with other legions. Once war is declared, all alerts should last twice as long.

We should have official armadas as well. This is inevitable, legions are expanding into armadas unofficially. The armadas can share planets and players among legions. They can have up to 10 member legions. An armada can officially end when there is only one legion left and will immediately delete itself. For an armada to start, one legion can offer an armada invitation to another legion. These will be immediate NAPs, but without using NAP space. And armadas can have NAPs with individual legions, or entire armadas. An armada could also join a coalition as a whole. There should be a head legion that determines all of the diplomacy.

if they do create superlegions (which is what ur asking) then i think they should be taxed an extra 25% of their ship upkeep per day, so that theres a cost to being able to share a player to multiple legions.

I'd also like to remind everyone of what happened before the legions were implemented and we had Disciples of Orion throwing their weight around. Their unofficial super-legion caused problems for everyone, especially because of the unscrupulous actions of a few people and the (At the time) lack of features and comms to effectively coordinate a group of people.

If super-legions are added, there definitely needs to be some kind of penalty and/or limits to prevent a resurgence of Disciples of Orion-styled war of pacification against all other game players.

In DOO's defence though, since the addition of the legion system, they've cleaned up their act.

Like I said, it's already happening, so why not make it official?

The current legion structure and the 24 hour cool-down before sharing after joining a legion were SPECIFICALLY created to ELIMINATE super legions. You're talking about a step back in time that very few who remember the "good ole days" of DoO would want...

Well what do yall think about the coalition idea. That one is designed to automatically delete itself once the original legion calls for peace, the original legion leaves the coalition, or the original legion is the only one left after all others have abandoned.

And that is yall's problems. Yall are too scared of another DOO. I say if something like DOO comes up, than the rest of us have a real fighting chance with these capabilities. It would be possible to fight off DOO with the coalition idea.

how is a weaker superlegion going to fight off a stronger one? if we have 500 level 100s and they have 150 level 400s, they still win. the only advantage we have is knowing more of their planet locations. but even that wont stop em for long, considering they would be able to share planets across legions with your idea.

Exactly. Currently the planet Exotica is held by the Dysonians, the top ranked legion in the game. Yesterday's Great Siege of Exotica carried out by at least 3 of the other top 10 legions met with failure due to the collective strength of the Dyso's. Can you imagine the power that would be wielded if the Dyso's, Ni, PA, GalPal and Desperadoes formed a "coalition" ???

lol i dont think galpal and desperados would EVER join the dysonians. :P

I have been hearing from around the game. The general consensus is that The Dysonians are douches. More legions will join against bullies instead of with them. Hence, The Anti-Dysonian Coalition.

You are also afraid that the toughest and strongest legions will group together. When it comes to being the top, they fight each other for dominance. Maybe 2 or 3 of the top will join together, but they will have to include some of the weaker legions to join in their fight against each other.

you would be surprised how many people in small legions would join the dysonians, just so they can say they are allied with the '#1' legion. i saw some dysonian comms back during the war, and a some of the comm messages were from random ppl pledging their loyalty to them.

think of it as the kid who dosnt want to get beat up so he becomes the toadie to the bully. most people dont sink that low, but there are many who do.

That's what I said, stronger legions, because of the war between them, would ally with weaker legions.

SInce a bunch of people are active in this convo, could you give me some input on my idea about the legion bases.

This idea is really without a good point to it. The reason to make the cap of members in a legion was to increase the competitive nature of the game, this idea would take away so much of that. I personally after being a part of one of these super legions, then leaving it and helping to finally destroy it, I am very against these legions. Keeping their ability to just pile up on anyone they want is very important to the game still being fair and balanced. I personally feel those who look to be in these types of legions are mostly cowardly and looking for nothing more than to hide behind numbers.

The Dysonians are only hated because we are number one. If we fell and some other legion was number one, it would be the same story. There are people out there that will always hate on people that are better than them, people that are better off than them, or people that just happen to be doing better.

I am not someone who is trying to hide behind numbers. I believe that it is inevitable, and it would be really awesome.

it is not inevitable, it already happened... You are playing in the aftermath of Super-legions and things are much better this way. The way the game is set up now, the best that can be achieved is a loose collection of several legions into "armadas" such as the attack on Exotica, but these quickly fall apart without any support structure built into the game. Additionally, you see new legions such as "Rebel Scum" trying to build a #1 strength legion from the ground up, but will still be limited to the overall power they can wield even after they get 50 level 350+ members. This is a balancing mechanism that must stay in effect in the wake of the DOO empire, which easily illustrated the atrocities and wrongdoings that emerge from an empire that is too large to properly administer and police; unscrupulous members inevitably used their power to coerce and beat-up on individuals, only to hide behind numbers when those wronged called them out on it. Moreover, legion members naturally pounce on individuals alerted by other members, and not only pound on the individual originally wronged, but also make matters politically worse as the rest of that legion also jumps in. Hence, even with a majority of members who play/act fair and have nothing but the best of intentions of defending their mate (as you are so idealistically portraying), you still develop the reputation as the bad guy when a few a******s go on abusive assaults. All that is left is a huge "he said, she said" debacle between two armadas that are in a typical Hatfield-McCoy style blood feud that neither side can figure out who really started what.

Perhaps in a year when the Legion Bases have been in full swing with most of the bugs worked out, strong Unity of Command features such as intricate Comm and News Feeds that are tracked by a 3rd party system and the resulting data translated into a word format for leaders and officers of both sides to review, and diplomatic "War" features begin to be implemented creating a more "one-on-one" feeling of conflict between Legions, then perhaps Armadas could be pitted against Armadas. I applaud your grand vision of epic clashes between hundreds or even thousands of colossal space vessels vying for control of the limited wealth of an entire galaxy, but your tunnel vision has blinders keeping you from seeing the true limitations and restrictions presently holding your dream back. Players may once again mobilize into your vision, but if done at the speed you want, we will all be taking a huge step back in balancing game mechanics.

What is truly inevitable is the truth that like all empires, Super-legions emerge, live their life, and then decline into a loose confederation; thanks to Dan, this curve is much steeper and resolved quicker. Players aren't happy because the big bad DOO is gone, they feel good because they now perceive more fairness in a leveler playing field.

I'd like to chime in for a second for the record sure there are probably jerks in the dysonians but I'm not on the other end so I'm not sure on the flip side how many people in your legion could be just as big of jerks? Oh also the top players can't join together if the top 50 was in a legion the top players can't get any badges as it is it's rather hard.

It could be that legions have a certain max combined level that way all the members from the top legions wouldn't be able to join together....