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Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:29 pm
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Similar to my own suggestion to make either:

A. A higher rank requirement, such as 500.

B. A medal which gives a reward akin to something like "Base Construction License", which would be something which could simply be the result of reaching a certain rank, or needing to meet some other requirement first. Maybe a new mission chain which became available at rank 400.


+1 to the new rank requirements, but -1 to the 15 members needed by one month. I have visited legions where there are a very small number of very active people who enjoy each other's company but didn't seem to want to be a part of a larger legion. I'm indifferent about the cost, leaning towards -1 if I'm honest. 10K CTP is a lot to a R500 who doesn't trade with other ships, but there's no reason they can't run very successful legions. Once the legion is created, the CTP requirements for leveling up your base, with the slow accumulation from multiple people, are less of a problem than an initial one-off cost for one person.

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I agree with the higher rank restriction and the initial cost.

As for a member count, could do something like a registration thing where at least 10 people have to agree to join the legion within 1 week before it becomes fully functioning. This way, it would be more of a team effort to initially make a legion, as you would most likely have to get some friends involved.

This would make fewer, fuller legions.

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search and you would have found viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41048

so nothing new in this sugestion abb.tighe
and it still a bad idear for the reasons you can find in that one

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search and you would have found viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41048

so nothing new in this sugestion abb.tighe
and it still a bad idear for the reasons you can find in that one


Must off seen the original in the past and had the idea roll around for months.

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DarkMar wrote:
search and you would have found viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41048

so nothing new in this sugestion abb.tighe
and it still a bad idear for the reasons you can find in that one


It's a bad idea, in your opinion, for the reason you gave in that thread which was refuted by myself. That is, even with a higher minimum rank requirement to make a legion there would be no reason that low rankers would struggle to find a legion with enough people to assist with alertable NPCs in their rank range. It's bad form to quote opinion as fact.

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Malevolentia wrote:
It's a bad idea, in your opinion, for the reason you gave in that thread which was refuted by myself. That is, even with a higher minimum rank requirement to make a legion there would be no reason that low rankers would struggle to find a legion with enough people to assist with alertable NPCs in their rank range. It's bad form to quote opinion as fact.


I'm not quoting it as facts, I presume players actualy read the post I link to where they can also read your arguments for raising the rank needed to start a Legion

difrence is, I'm not going to bother repeading it all here

we dont disagrey, that startig a new legion is way to easy atm and a lot of new legions simply go inactive becourse they cant get anougth members
but doesnt change the fact, that rank sets limits on NPC hunting and PvP shares for badges, so in most cases players will be better off in a legion with a lot of players in rougthly the same Badge and NPC range

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DarkMar wrote:
Malevolentia wrote:
It's a bad idea, in your opinion, for the reason you gave in that thread which was refuted by myself. That is, even with a higher minimum rank requirement to make a legion there would be no reason that low rankers would struggle to find a legion with enough people to assist with alertable NPCs in their rank range. It's bad form to quote opinion as fact.


I'm not quoting it as facts, I presume players actualy read the post I link to where they can also read your arguments for raising the rank needed to start a Legion

difrence is, I'm not going to bother repeading it all here

we dont disagrey, that startig a new legion is way to easy atm and a lot of new legions simply go inactive becourse they cant get anougth members
but doesnt change the fact, that rank sets limits on NPC hunting and PvP shares for badges, so in most cases players will be better off in a legion with a lot of players in rougthly the same Badge and NPC range


We definitely agree on starting a new legion being too easy, but imposing a higher rank limit of, say, 500 would not prevent a low ranker from joining a legion with more than enough players in their rank range, something which I have demonstrated to be true in the previous thread. It would force them into larger legions for the most part, as you won't get many legions with a R500 leader and just a handful of R<100s (so they'd be looking at legions like Khanate of Ursa, Hell Razors, Galaxy Battleships), but that's kind of the point of this suggestion; get everybody into larger legions where they don't whither away to nothing and leave out of boredom.

I think I am leaning towards agreement for having an initial high cost for starting a legion. Perhaps remove the rank requirement altogether and instead of a CTP requirement introduce a very high energy cost. For example, it'll take a one-off shot of 5000 energy to found a new legion. This is an about-right energy bar for a R500 and introduces a sort of artificial soft-limit on rank, as noobs aren't going to have that kind of energy bar. Tri-Matrix Emblems and Energy Cubes aren't so absurdly rare that this could be considered unreasonable for someone who did have an energy bar of exactly 5000, where they might rank up, found a legion, and then if they didn't have an energy refill they would be stranded to the slow crawl of energy recharge for at the very least 28 hours but probably more like two days. With the context of energy cubes and tri-matrix emblems they should be fine with just a touch of forethought. I am going to quote this into the other thread as that one still has an actual title.

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