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 How about Legion StarBases? 
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Would love to see a legion starbase. I think it would add a new twist and give some spice to being a legion member.

Legion star bases would be a place where members of the same legion could dock at. When docked at the star base all legion members would have their weapons defense shields and hull absorbed for the starbases stats. As a legion you could attack and wear down enemy starbases. When you kill an enemy starbase you would get a reward like the current NPC system. Of course the higher the avg rank and stats at the attacked starbase would determine what type of reward.

Each starbase would have lab spots (say 10)that would give a player docked at the starbase some bonus.

To get lab spots legion members could donate minerals, energy, or research so the legion leader could upgrade labs.
Some ideas for labs=
-Mineral proccessing plant: docked legion members would get a ? %(depending on level researched) increase when selling or receiving minerals.
-Artifact lab: docked legion members would get a ? %(depending on level researched) chance for a rare artifact when using artifact shipments at star base.
Scanning lab: gives a bonus to legion members docked at their starbase when scanning for planets, would also allow starbase to scan for other starbases.
Starchart Lab: at first you could only permently store on enemy star base, but as you upgrade this lab you will be able to store more.

etc....
There is many possibilities for this system and each lab would give the individual player and the starbase a bonus.

when a star base is destroyed it would take minerals to rebuild or fix. starbase battles between legions could last for days.

Also make so there is a real time chat when docked at the star base.


Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:46 pm
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ohh and make it if you are docked at your starbase that takes up your guard spot.


Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:05 pm
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Space stations and such have been recommended before.

Though the one I posted or this one are nice either way.


Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:40 pm
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That would be an interesting new aspect to the game but don't you guys think we should focus on tweaking and adjusting the current parts of the game?

What I am getting at is something like that would be a major bit of coding. Aren't there more important things that need attention and are smaller/easier to do?

Like
- Planets having the legion name and owner clearly shown.
- Legion comms being more visible and easily seen
- Adjustments to the resource cap so players don't have to log in every 5 hours

I bring it up because Dan has said on multiple occasions he wants to focus on improving current gameply, not adding new gameplay that will make it more complicated.

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Adding new stuff and improving older systems and things tend to happen at the same time. Though dan has a list of things (a long list) and I would not be shocked if improvements to what is here will tend to come first.

But he could spend years just tweeking the current system with nothing new. Though people will also always call for adjustemtns that might not make sense.


So my thought right now is post it and see what happens.


Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:31 pm
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The suggestion on starbases had been brought up on several occasions over several months simply cuz it was kinda difficult to implement under old system..

Now, we got functional in-game legion system that got implemented last week that opens up lot of potential legion expansions so I'm sure that Dan already has starbase in the plans as part of legion expansion. I don't see why not. :) It's entirely within space lores.. After all, NPC got starbases so why can't we? :D

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If these ideas do get implemented(Which i hope they do) i would like to give them some better names and some expansions on the idea.

I would like the starbase to have Levels like a ship's decks and the average rank and strength of the legion would determine the amount of levels.
(Have an equation like this, Average Strength/Average Rank x number of members=Levels, so if the average strength was 1000 and the average rank was 100 with 50 members you would have 500 levels to work with, which if it was the same size as decks would be a dreadnought)

The "modules" that can be installed would be based on the total research spent by the whole legion. This would be divided by the number of members to get average research. Then you would take this and spread it evenly between all the research trees to see how advanced the station will be. Then the legion would work together to build these hyper-expensive modules by each building one(or as many as they can afford, they would be in the lines of 200 billion dollars plus 100 kurenite if it was current top level research on the wiki, but obviously would be cheaper if it was lower), as these could be a big loss to even rank 200+ if the reserahc was high enough. Dan could decide how many levels each one takes up.

Energy would be used to "power" the modules. Each module would have a minimum energy requirement to run and if it cannot be paid it will inflict some penalty to all members that contributed and the module would go offline and take damage 2x a day.

Cloaking would hide modules just like on players, and if you have to scan for these bases it would work like planetary cloak.

Scanners depending on level would give more info on the target. So proximity scanners for a very weak legion would tell you only that the base is being attacked. Hyperflux sensors would tell you how many were attacking, the legion the majority if not all of them were in, the average research/rank/strength of the legion, the names of the top 5 damagers, and if the leader is attacking and other things dan might think of.

Weapons/Defense/Hull/Sheild would work the same way, except sheilds would have their own defense stat to be more realistic.

Docked ships would add either
A) An immediate PvP bonus to the station that is solid numbers
B) A percentage Bonus
C) ALL stat bonus
D) ALL stat plus a reduction in repair cost if its destroyed

Repair costs would be in the number of a 10s of TRILLIONs of credits(Of course this would be shared between the legion)+over 1000 kurenite

Fighter Bays could be added to the base that would add special stats such as increases sheild regeneration, reduced energy requirement for modules, increased armor, reduced construction cost, PvP stats, and sensor drones would provide VERY detailed information about enemy starbeases that are found.

The "Labs" the OP talked about would work like this. The total crew of every docked ship would be added and used to determine production depending on the level of the labs. names for these labs would be called
---Replication Labs: Increase mining based on number of crew on base(Equation for all of these labs would be like this, Total Crew/number of modules x level of lab=production, so if there are 10 modules on a spacedock and 4000 crew and the level of the lab is teir 3 it would add 1200 production of that resource to every guard, and to balance it could be SPREAD among the gaurds so if there is 10 gaurds they would receive 120 each)
---Deep Space Research Labs: Increase research
---Exo-Archaeology labs: Increase artifacts
---Deep Shroud Labs: Increase Cloaking
---Military Barrracks: Increase defense against raids(Discussed later)(The equation for labs like this and the one after this would be the same but the number would be the 1200 but it would be equivalent to cloak against hacking defense or Crew against raiding. Raiding would be stationed crew+military barracks bonus=raiding defense)
---Nerd Lab(Jk, Data Randomization labs): Increase defense against hacks(Discussed later

Raids and Hacks on starbases: Starbases would contain the location of every planet owned by the legion, and if hacked critically any number of planets between 1-the number of players in legion/5 would be found and everyone in legion would learn the locations. If hacked regularly the hacker's legion(You would have to have a legion of at least 10 to hack the base) would gain a SHARED 10 hours research production of the starbase. When raided it sends a message to every ship engaged in battle asking if they want to participate in the raid, and if they press yes their entire crew will be added to the raid. If the raid critically fails everyone who participates loses crew(depending on how much crew was on the ship). If succesful production on base will be lowered 10% and the production would be given to the participants until driven out(shared). If critically raided it gives some crew to participants along with production but it will be 20% of the production and will be much harder to drive out.

Win/Lose rewards/penalties: If the attacking force is fought back(That is, every single attacker retreated for at least 15 minutes) the attacking force would be humiliated and will be shared to the defender for a WEEK PLUS will each receive a cost to repair losses and damages to their fleet. The defender would each receive a random artifact(The kind depends on the average strength and number of the attackers)+an increase to production+bragging rights+the ability to pummel the attacker for a week+receive an increase to total research for the legion for every attacker that attacked the base and every defender that lived(Did not have to repair).
Now, if the attacker won, they will be VERY happy. They will each receive 3 random artifacts that are at least 5000 points worth+bragging rights+MASSIVE experience+added total research for THEIR starbase+a temporary PvP bonus for each attacker(50% extra attack and defense). The defender would have to pay TRILLIONS to repair+be humiliated+would lose one artifact from their hold that is worth under 5000 points+would lose ability to gaurd anything for 24 hours+would have a 50% decrease in production from starbase.

Imagine an EPIC battle of legion versus legion where dozens of different ships of all sizes and ranks battle each other to the death in order for great riches and rewards. Now imagine if graphics were added in adition to this :P That would be awesome(That last part was kind of a joke, graphics dont need to be added)

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I like that idea. I think that it would add a nice addition to the game.

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I also approve of this idea, it would wonderfully improve the current Legion System and the game entirely!

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