Perhaps there could be two types of legion creation.
One is directly founding of a legion, with a higher requirement
The other is a "charter", where the leader must have a number of players to "sign up" before it can be created. This would have little to no requirement.

The only valid arguments "for" allowing lower rank to found a legion seems to be centered around finding a group of like ranked friends to do elites, and this would allow such a group to create a legion together, if they can gather enough to make that a valid reason. Otherwise, there is really no reason making new legions.

Granted, alt spam can still create a legion by oneself at low rank, but that'd be both against the rules and a lot of work for very little benefit. Doubt people would do that.

But yes, we can see what training does first before anything else.

I like the charter idea. If someone bothers to alt one up, it's their own loss stagnating with a dozen of their soon to be banned multis. I think apart from that edge it provides a reasonable solution for the occasional group of low rankers who have a legitimate chance at a successful new legion.

We definitely agree on starting a new legion being too easy, but imposing a higher rank limit of, say, 500 would not prevent a low ranker from joining a legion with more than enough players in their rank range, something which I have demonstrated to be true in the previous thread. It would force them into larger legions for the most part, as you won't get many legions with a R500 leader and just a handful of R<100s (so they'd be looking at legions like Khanate of Ursa, Hell Razors, Galaxy Battleships), but that's kind of the point of this suggestion; get everybody into larger legions where they don't whither away to nothing and leave out of boredom.

I think I am leaning towards agreement for having an initial high cost for starting a legion. Perhaps remove the rank requirement altogether and instead of a CTP requirement introduce a very high energy cost. For example, it'll take a one-off shot of 5000 energy to found a new legion. This is an about-right energy bar for a R500 and introduces a sort of artificial soft-limit on rank, as noobs aren't going to have that kind of energy bar. Tri-Matrix Emblems and Energy Cubes aren't so absurdly rare that this could be considered unreasonable for someone who did have an energy bar of exactly 5000, where they might rank up, found a legion, and then if they didn't have an energy refill they would be stranded to the slow crawl of energy recharge for at the very least 28 hours but probably more like two days. With the context of energy cubes and tri-matrix emblems they should be fine with just a touch of forethought. I am going to quote this into the other thread as that one still has an actual title.

for me it not a Rank thing....
due to the fact that you can rougthly split NPC hunting into 3 to 4 categories

rank 900+
rank 500 to 1000
rank 50 to 600 (and this one could proberly be split in 2 as well. as most of the first elite/boss NPC you get disapear around rank 200)

to few members in one rank category, and they wont get the NPC's they should or have enougth players to fill a 10+ players boss
but if you like NPC hunting, you can actualy do quite well, in a legion with mostly rank 200 to 600 members, where everyone can see everyones shares and a boss fills up in a few hours
that's more or less what I had back at rank 500's in delta surfers, but had to leave them when we ended up with to few members beeing able to see Clusters and other high rank NPC's


you also have to look at extream slow ranking PvP ships, some of those can spendt months, if not years below rank 100 doing nothing but raiding, hacking and killing enemy ships to build up badges
some of those might actualy be qualified to lead a PvP legion, even if they are "only" rank 100


a cost to start a new legion - CTP's or energy might work
but as I have sayed before, what I would realy like to see, was a pre-request, that before you could start a legion yourself, you would need to spendt 14 to 30 days in a legion

Just sayin' - it is entirely possible to create and build a very good legion starting at a much earlier point than Rank 500

Team Player
20 Medal Points
Collect a daily reward after spending 180 days as a loyal member of a legion **and earning the Back in my day... medal**.
Reward: Base Construction Licence

Base Construction Licence
Grants you permission to found a new legion.
No scrap available


The bit in asterisks, that is earning the BIMD medal, is placed there for consideration as I think it could be a bit too out there... But I'm not sure. Given that the game is now, what, five years old? I don't think this is too unreasonable but would appreciate the opinions of others on this.

Back in my day...
Collect a daily reward after playing Galaxy Legion for over 1 year.

Collect a daily reward after spending 180 days as a loyal member of a legion

something like that would work for me, but I think



and



is a bit to high

I think 3+ months spendt in game, and 30+ days as a loyal member of a legion would be enougth
but that just numbers that can be tweaked up or down, depending on how hard you want to make it to start a new legion

Possible? Sure.
Likely? No.