no-charge recharge rate = 180 sec/energy
90 charge recharge rate = 90 sec/energy
*at 90 charge it could be changed to 180 sec/2 energy (90 charge is roughly 7 'tiers' of recharge)
Additional charge would be charge divided by 2 subtracted from the 180 up to '120 charge'

no-charge recharge rate = 180 sec/energy
120 charge recharge rate = 60 sec/energy
*at 120 charge it could be changed to 180/3 energy
Additional charge would be charge divided by 3 subtracted from the 180 up to '150 charge'

no-charge = 180 sec/en
150 charge = 30 sec/en
180 charge = 0 sec/en (bad thing entirely)
*at 150 charge it could be changed to 180/4 energy (+ charge at x/4)
*at 180 charge it could be changed to 180/5 energy (+ charge at x/5)

Basically, after getting to 90 charge which essentially cuts regen time in half, the bonus would be increased and would never level out at 0 because it adjusts every 30 charge thereafter (roughly 10 tiers of recharge which is not easy to obtain).

With this change, I'd suggest removing the 'energy cost' of having relays entirely.

i bought up this idea here http://galaxylegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=559&hilit=180%2F2

My rough estimate is that the person with the best of the best right now has around 130 recharge anyway so realistically who/what/when will 180 recharge be an issue? (no time soon, but it still will eventually happen)

the problem is that if the recharge ever reached 180 or anywhere near it players would have unlimited energy. doubling the amount every 90 sec and resetting to 3m for recharge seems the best way to me.
0s = 1 energy every 3 min
90s = 2 energy every 3 min
180s = 4 energy for every 3 min
270s = 8 energy every 3 min
360s = 16 energy every 3 min
etc
etc

each incremental will reduce the charge on the 3 m limit until it reaches the 90s mark where it will wrap.

3 minutes is too long... 1 minute is better
+0 = 1 energy per 180 s
+90 = 1 energy per 90 s
+120 = 1 energy per 60 s
+180 = 2 energy per 90 s
+210 = 2 energy per 75 s
+240 = 2 energy per 60 s
+243 = 3 energy per 99 s
+360 = 3 energy per 60 s (this is then followed by 4 energy)
Hitting 1 minute -> converts to 2 energy (and timer starts at 100-60 s and loops)

EDIT: seems like +243 (3/99s) is slower than +240(2/60s). Will edit the values.

I think this is what i proposed earlier idk though, if it isnt plz elaborate.

Yes it was your idea (maybe in another thread also I guess... sorry for failing to credit you)
Need to edit the values... hold on

np just wondering if it was different and i wasnt catching on.

New proposed system (when jumping energy, 10 seconds is shaved off.. )
Draft1
+0 = 1 energy per 180 s
+90 = 1 energy per 90 s (180-90)
+120 = 1 energy per 60 s
+180 = 2 energy per 80 s {[ (180*2) -180 ] /2-10}
+210 = 2 energy per 65 s [(360-210)/2-10]
+240 = 2 energy per 50 s [(360-240)/2-10]
+243 = 3 energy per 79 s {[180*3 - 243 ] /3}-10]
+360 = 4 energy per 80 s {[(180*4- 360) /4]-10}
+480 = 6 energy per 90 s {[180*6 - 480) /6]-10}
Still need adjusting.. please wait for my draft 2

Still need work



When jumping from 2 -> 3, 3 -> 4, 4 -> 5, the recharge rates are off (shown by an increase in a jump the ratio of seconds/energy) (300/400/600)

By using this system, the current '1 energy per time' players are NOT affected. It only comes into play when the player starts getting '2 energy at a time'

Text in pics may not make sense (my type of typing )
STILL NEED WORK!

Based on the immense cost for getting '180' charge, I'd feel VERY slighted to only get 2 regen every 90 seconds or even 2 regen every 30 seconds. I think my original scaling proposal 'uses' the current system just modifies how it works after reaching the high thresholds (7 tiers = 90 so it isn't easily obtained so I call this threshold 1 for my case), and my proposal would never allow for a regen rate of better than x per 90 seconds since the 3 minute mechanism would hold in place but instead be replaced by better regeneration base.

Nice work but.. It is little more complicated and require more than 1 formula. That plot sure looks very much similiar to my MUCH smoother logarithm or 1/x formula and my formula only requires ONE single equation.. I like simplier method doing similiar approach.. Yours is more "bumpy" ride and mine is just a smooth sliding.. Both approaches come to same energy regeneration but different ways..

Well, yours is 1 energy recharge rate and it does affect current players too much. That is the problem with your suggestion in my opinion. (unless i misunderstood your idea) Would be best to implement a system close to yours but not 1 energy and doesn't affect anyone now. That was my objective, but seems like it 'failed' by some account

Heh. It's no different really. 1 energy recharge vs 10 energy recharge comes down to same thing..

For example, using my "1" energy recharge every 10 seconds (.1 energy/sec) and you use your approach using 10 energy recharge every 100 seconds (.1 energy/sec).. Tell me which approach is faster? Both are the same..

The energy/sec fraction works on both of our approaches.. Heck, down the road, your energy recharge would be upped to 20 energy recharge every 100 seconds (.2 energy/sec) Likewise, my 1 energy recharge improves from 10 seconds to 5 seconds (.2 energy/sec).. Same thing.. I think I'll enjoy getting 1 energy faster on 10 seconds rather than getting lump sum of 10 energy every 100 seconds.

To me, 1 energy recharge using one single formula to do the same work is more simplier and less complicated and confusing..

Hey, Hey Hey,

No one said there would be Math involved!

Just sayin'