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kirkeastment wrote:
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I think the request to remove "Glass Bases" (very weak or inactive Legion bases) misses the point. Glass bases pretty much exist because a lot of players have left the game and abandoned their bases.

So the real solution is to get and keep more players in the game, and that means focusing on game changes that will increase player retention. And that, for the largest part, is balancing out the players' ship size/damage cap/rank stats and improving PvP to make it engaging, infinitely replayable, and balanced for rank. I think the best PvP in these FB space games I've seen so far is that in VEGA Conflict, so that should probably be the baseline for what needs to be implemented. Make PvP a graphics-based online battle arena and that'll solve the glass bases issue.


This game is run by Dan himself on servers he personally pays for. He doesn't even have a graphics team, it's just him.

A simple point and click game, which already struggles with horrendous lag and your plan is to involve graphics based combat?

Let me know where Dan will get the money to run a server and pay all the costs that come with running anything like that which you're asking for.

You realize that Kixeye(the company that runs VEGA Conflict) is a multi-million dollar company right? They can afford to spend $10k developing what you're suggesting and cover the costs involved, Dan cannot.


and did you forget:
1) Dan is not willing to bring in more people nor to move to other platforms to gain more profit?
2) Dan was not willing to agree on the novel/book back in the days?
3) graphics can be download to PCs as mod or as app addition on mobiles (if ever fully supported by Dan) and does not have to take so much of extra internet traffic?
4) number of issues is growing. new folks move away more and more, meanwhile the old are gone slowly too? other-way said - how long in years is GL declining?
5) everyone can add their own points...

The fact is, that with this peace of game experience, I see really no point to play GL for much longer time. Even the forum (one official from 3 known at minimum) is basically dead compare to e.g. year 2012!

And you gonna protect the status quo just because you just recently made a well planned reset?!

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And you gonna protect the status quo just because you just recently made a well planned reset?!

What

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3) graphics can be download to PCs as mod or as app addition on mobiles (if ever fully supported by Dan) and does not have to take so much of extra internet traffic?

That's called caching. Your browser does it automatically.

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Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:07 am
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3) graphics can be download to PCs as mod or as app addition on mobiles (if ever fully supported by Dan) and does not have to take so much of extra internet traffic?

That's called caching. Your browser does it automatically.


Yeah, after the data are initially downloaded and it is only in temporary memory.
I was thinking rather about permanent download do HDD/memory cards.

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lol you guys make me laugh so much sometimes

Dan just cannot win with you people and your hypocritical #&$# stances.

2 years ago, half the game threw a $%&% fit as they thought Dan sold off the game, when there was an onslaught of new seasonal GP items and people said $%&% this pay to win #&$#.

Now, 2 years on when people realize he didn't sell up, here are the same people saying why doesn't he sell the game on to a bigger company. Make up your damn minds.


Dan is not willing, nah mate, it costs money to employ people and when this game is a side gig(do people not realize this isn't Dan's job?), you can't just afford to employ people, especially when this game ain't a money spinner.

That book was a joke, plain and simple. Fanfics don't bring in money in the sums you seem to think they do, let alone bring awareness to a facebook game, like you believe it would have done. If that were true, the big companies would hire writers to do that for them too.

It's 5 years going on 6 years. Show me another independently run facebook game, without corporate backing or a million dollar income behind it that is still running after 3 years let alone nearly 6.


Also, who is planning a reset? Maybe you have me confused with yourself.

Pardon the french above, but i hope you people get the point.

A) This isn't Dan's job and he probably doesn't make very much profit from it per month based on his horrendous server costs.

B) This is an independent game. Sure Dan could sell the game to a company or corporation, but i'll tell you right now more people would quit in the first month under the new owners than in a year under the current circumstances.

Why?

Because people already #$&*@ and moan about how this game is pay to play as is and how they can never be as strong as the older players ever. Imagine this game but with 10x as many pay to play elements compared to now. That's what companies do, they make your best games pay to play, like with DLC.

Could more be done in terms of content in this game, absolutely it could. The difference i'm putting across here is that you don't need to fundamentally change the game mechanics to increase content or introduce new methods of warfare in this game.

You can create tonnes of new content that doesn't require a graphics overhaul for real-time graphics based PvP, and which wouldn't kill the game with extensive server b/w cost increases.

This game has poor retention and always has had poor retention, purely because unlike every other facebook game this game has multiple strategic elements that go into playing this game on any capable level. It's not like backyard monsters or famville or insert any other typical fb game here. So that's an issue which will never go away whatever you do.


tl;dr?

side gig for Dan, not much profit
employing people costs money(maybe you can do it for free?)
only independently run fb game still running after almost 6 years not owned by a million dollar company

i'm not a reset, never have, never will be

most complainers are hypocritical and will whine whenever something changes, even if 2 years ago they asked for that change


Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:39 am
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lol you guys make me laugh so much sometimes

Dan just cannot win with you people and your hypocritical #&$# stances. who exactly you mean here?

2 years ago, half the game threw a $%&% fit as they thought Dan sold off the game, when there was an onslaught of new seasonal GP items and people said $%&% this pay to win #&$#.

Now, 2 years on when people realize he didn't sell up, here are the same ?! people saying why doesn't he sell the game on to a bigger company. Make up your damn minds.

I really wonder, if you keep your records properly, could you point out, where e.g. myself was stating, Dan sold the game? Really would like to see the basis of your response...

i'm not a reset, never have, never will be
Yeah and you never ever said differently, right? Nor even did act in such manner...

most complainers are hypocritical and will whine whenever something changes, even if 2 years ago they asked for that change - who asked what in regards of glass bases? are you making up something? once again, please point out the topic, on which you base you comment. Really love to see, whom you mean

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kirkeastment wrote:
lol you guys make me laugh so much sometimes

Dan just cannot win with you people and your hypocritical #&$# stances. who exactly you mean here?

2 years ago, half the game threw a $%&% fit as they thought Dan sold off the game, when there was an onslaught of new seasonal GP items and people said $%&% this pay to win #&$#.

Now, 2 years on when people realize he didn't sell up, here are the same ?! people saying why doesn't he sell the game on to a bigger company. Make up your damn minds.

I really wonder, if you keep your records properly, could you point out, where e.g. myself was stating, Dan sold the game? Really would like to see the basis of your response...

i'm not a reset, never have, never will be
Yeah and you never ever said differently, right? Nor even did act in such manner...

most complainers are hypocritical and will whine whenever something changes, even if 2 years ago they asked for that change - who asked what in regards of glass bases? are you making up something? once again, please point out the topic, on which you base you comment. Really love to see, whom you mean

Flux, do you understand the concept of speaking generally to a group of people?
You do know, for instance, that not every comment ever made is necessarily directed solely at you?

For example, to most people the phrase "half the game" does not equal "flux" ...so demanding proof of where you said something is either slightly twisted comprehension or an inflated sense of worth.
I'm definitely guessing the first option, but please try not to take everything personally, especially when it is clearly a general comment, not directed only at you.

What he did most certainly direct at you was to point out that you claimed he had reset, which is clearly wrong, always has been wrong and I would guess always will be wrong.
I have never seen it mentioned as even a slight possibility by the person in question anywhere on the forum, nor implied, hinted at or acted out.
Perhaps, to borrow your own words, you could "please point out the topic, on which you base you comment"?


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