How about we kill 2 birds (or more) with one stone. Why not "Legion" restrictions. Put a cap on the number of people you can have in your legion no matter what your rank.

1) No more adding everyone and having 400 people who post junk to your wall.
2) No more league gang ups because there are less people to alert to. Higher level players are going to be chooser about who they let in their legion once they hit their cap.
3) Truly fair for everyone because it isn't biased towards little guys. Its the same number for everyone.
4) No more big organized legion gang bangs on unsuspecting newbs who offend the wrong person because Joe Smith can't alert 200 people when there are only 100 max (an example) in his legion list.

what would be fair is having a in-game controlled alliance system like was discussed. then you wouldn't care what the other private orgs do as long as they are in the same faction.

Yep, in-game alliance feature is the best solution.. Alot more control ability over them mechanically.. And they can carry alliance tags for players to know..

Alert restrictions should not be governed by level, but rather they should be governed by what a person did....

If said person invades a planet of yours, there should not be alert restrictions. If said person then 'fluxes' the planet, the 'hackproof' cap should be removed until said planet location is reacquired or 24 hours have passed (whichever comes first). This is to prevent the new invade/flux/laugh at the attackers -- this can be accomplished by quantum firewalls (if you have 7 of these babies you are hackproof!).

As for alerts, each offense that a person does should raise the ire level or threat level of the person.

1 hack/disable or raid should give a +/- ranks alert ability (up to the person calling the alert whether they want to blow it now or wait)

1 hack/disable or raid = +/- 25 ranks
2 = +/- 50 ranks
3 = +/- 100 ranks
4 = +/- 150 ranks
5 = +/- alert everyone in the legion

That would be much more complicated than it needs to be. Legion restrictions would solve a lot of problems that come from people having huge legions, ganging up on newbs, mass hacking, buying and selling planets and so on.

we all started with a legion of 1, if someone chooses not to add a big legion, and want to hack raid or steel planets... they get what they deserve... life isn't fair, i have been hacked raided and many planets stolen, so what i either get them back or get new ones... its not tough... beginners hub theres an add me section, simple add everyone who posts there... you just add your name and wait for people to add you you will not get as many...

theres a few galaxy legion clans out there... it would be great to be able to fight them clan on clan....

The reason why I didnt get a legion is because as I have said "I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH ADDING RANDOM STRANGERS AS MY FREIND ON FACEBOOK!!!"
Sorry about all caps, its just that you are saying that if I am not in DOO i deserve to be repeatadly pummeled.

actually I think the way it is now is just fine. Technically you realy don't gain any benefit form having more than 100 people in your legion as it stands so you could say 100 is already the soft cap. As for repeted attacks from multiple players for minor slights, a legion of 5 can already do almost as much damage as a legion of 100, since most of the time even in a legion of 100, it's highly unlikely all 100 of them are going to attack you, and as it stands now with the new pvp implementations, legion size is much less of a factor.

you can set restrictions on what each person see's... if you want to completely lock them out and only see basic info... fb gives you that option....

Even if they know my NAME and only my name I am not comfortable, AND SO ARE ABOUt A MILLION OTHER PEOPLE. THe part that really bugs me is that you say I deserve being pummeled by DOO because I didnt join a DOO like organization, which i will never do.

so start your own legion clan....

people shouldnt have to be in organizations, if these terrorist fascist groups didnt exist it would be better for everyone. "Conform or die" ill take death, aholes. I have a group though, not an organization, that does its best to protect those who simply wish to play the game to the fullest extent without being hammered but I dont like the idea of recruiting people on the forums. I dont like to give newbies the idea that by joining my group all their problems will go away like the others that recruit here do.

Well if you are an aspiring or accomplished fascist/terrorist, Have I got the group for you! I think all we've really done so far is planet trading, NPC farming and generally peaceful stuff. Personally, I'm a fascist when I win and a terrorist when I lose. The group is generally pro-PVP, but more for benefit than pride. Basically the only benifit from PVP comes from attacking people higher level than yourself for the xp bonus. "Defense" of legion members can only really serve as a deterent or distraction, and with how I'd like the group to operate, de-escalation can help fill the gap considering what the new updates have done. You can call it 'defense', 'vengeance', 'targeting' or whatever you want, because it still operates through notifications. I would hope that people could just share targets with lots if actions left, people whose traps have run out, and generally squishy targets... then someone slightly lower level than them can try to take them out and cash in for the xp. It's basically a group that might operate like any other but doesn't happen to have qualms about "who started it" and is generally pro-PVP.

Its human nature for people to coalesce into groups. That's how villages, cities, and civilizations come into being.

History aside, I believe there needs to be some kind of organization or alliance that actually helps newbies. Mentoring, donating artifacts, gifts, and share planets so the newbies can level up and be smart players. Then us high levels will have more people to play around with at our level ranges eventually.

Take out organizations and alliances? Okay, then eliminate ALL legion-related stuff. Alerts, planet shares, planet defends, planet stat bonuses, gifting, etc. since what's the point if "grouping" is eliminated?

I think most of that is how any group would need to operate to be a viable option and to have retention and active players and all that. I posted something in my group about free kurenite for noobs but nobody even contacted me. I think that philosophy is part of why DOO has been successful. It should be part of any groups objective though if they hope to be successful, active and useful.

Amen to that, Brother Cothordin. Preach it!

It's disappointing to see DOO members' replies deleted by our 'neutral' moderator who bad mouths us at every turn.

Seriously, thin skin much, pal?