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PATRICKKASIE wrote:

Missing Data on the wiki from the merged datanode.

When the datanode has been fully upgraded, you will recieve 4% defence bonus, not currently present in the galaxy legion wiki. I just wanted to say that.
http://prntscr.com/19cfr0

Annabell wrote:

PATRICKKASIE wrote:

http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Merged_Datanode

The wiki is community maintained, so if you find missing or incorrect information in the future, feel free to fix it.

XxDarthDexterxX wrote:

The wiki was clamped down, security wise, due to a large number of spam-bots spamming the wiki, and making it all spammy.

I'll see if I can find the time to start on this list... Thanks. :mrgreen:

PLURVIOUS wrote:

XxDarthDexterxX wrote:

The wiki was clamped down, security wise, due to a large number of spam-bots spamming the wiki, and making it all spammy.

I'll see if I can find the time to start on this list... Thanks. :mrgreen:

I call BS on this. There are easy ways to block spambots from a wiki (for example, CAPTCHA). Look that up on Wikipedia (a real Wiki, on which spam does not appear to be a problem...). A few players derive pleasure out of a sense of being among the elite who are "in control" of the Wiki - just under the guise of "to prevent spam". Since Dan is largely hands-off, these players are free to continue their exercise.

XxDarthDexterxX wrote:

PLURVIOUS wrote:

XxDarthDexterxX wrote:

The wiki was clamped down, security wise, due to a large number of spam-bots spamming the wiki, and making it all spammy.

I'll see if I can find the time to start on this list... Thanks. :mrgreen:

Well that's your take on it, but that's the reason behind it.

Why don't you read more about spam-prevention, here.

PATRICKKASIE wrote:

Annabell wrote:

PATRICKKASIE wrote:

http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Merged_Datanode

The wiki is community maintained, so if you find missing or incorrect information in the future, feel free to fix it.

It said that I couldn't log in due to administrators cause or something. I can't edit the wiki, so I'll add it here and maybe it will be edited.
As I have seen right now, it did.

PLURVIOUS wrote:

XxDarthDexterxX wrote:

The wiki was clamped down, security wise, due to a large number of spam-bots spamming the wiki, and making it all spammy.

Funny how all the other Wikis out there don't have this problem...

PLURVIOUS wrote:

OK, look. If you need someone to explain to you how to prevent so-called "spam" on a wiki (and how to embed images - another skill that appears to elude our Wiki admins), let me know and I'd be glad to help. Otherwise, enjoy your little pet project.

PLURVIOUS wrote:

Author:	PATRICKKASIE [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:50 am ]
Post subject:	Merged Datanode - wiki
Missing Data on the wiki from the merged datanode. When the datanode has been fully upgraded, you will recieve 4% defence bonus, not currently present in the galaxy legion wiki. I just wanted to say that. http://prntscr.com/19cfr0

Author:	Annabell [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Merged Datanode - wiki
PATRICKKASIE wrote: Missing Data on the wiki from the merged datanode. When the datanode has been fully upgraded, you will recieve 4% defence bonus, not currently present in the galaxy legion wiki. I just wanted to say that. http://prntscr.com/19cfr0 http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Merged_Datanode The wiki is community maintained, so if you find missing or incorrect information in the future, feel free to fix it.

Author:	PATRICKKASIE [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:38 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Merged Datanode - wiki
Annabell wrote: PATRICKKASIE wrote: Missing Data on the wiki from the merged datanode. When the datanode has been fully upgraded, you will recieve 4% defence bonus, not currently present in the galaxy legion wiki. I just wanted to say that. http://prntscr.com/19cfr0 http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Merged_Datanode The wiki is community maintained, so if you find missing or incorrect information in the future, feel free to fix it. It said that I couldn't log in due to administrators cause or something. I can't edit the wiki, so I'll add it here and maybe it will be edited. As I have seen right now, it did.

Author:	PATRICKKASIE [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:41 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Merged Datanode - wiki
*edit Aha... clicking ''view srouce'' will give the ability to edit the wiki sorry didn't know that. Does it also need a citation like my print screen by the way, how I got this information?

Author:	PATRICKKASIE [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:32 pm ]
Post subject:	Incorrect data on the wiki
I am unavailable to edit the wiki so I will write down what errors I found on the wiki: http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... uto-Phaser Upkeep told by wiki: 12,500. Actual upkeep: 25,000. http://prntscr.com/19dkf8 http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... _Ballistae Upkeep told by wiki: ?? Actual upkeep: 125,000. http://prntscr.com/19dkpa Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 2,500,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... Controller Upkeep told by wiki: 24,000 Actual upkeep: 25,000. http://prntscr.com/19dl3k Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 500,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ast_Phaser Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 500,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... asion_Node Upkeep told by wiki: ?? Actual upkeep: 125,000. http://prntscr.com/19dwbf Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 2,500,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... g_Thruster Upkeep told by wiki: 24,000 Actual upkeep: 25,000. http://prntscr.com/19dm5p http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... asion_Node Upkeep told by wiki: ?? Actual upkeep: 25,000. http://prntscr.com/19dmcf Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 500,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... _Deflector Upkeep told by wiki: 2,000 Actual upkeep: 4,000. http://prntscr.com/19dml1 Cost to repair told by wiki: 76,000 Actual repaircost: 80,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Hulls Scruuge X-Deflector: Upkeep told by wiki: 2,100,000 Actual upkeep: 4,000. http://prntscr.com/19dn26 Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 80,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ed_Plating Upkeep told by wiki: 1,100 Actual upkeep: 2,500. http://prntscr.com/19dnq8 Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 50,000 (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... asma_Lance Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual upkeep: 76,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... or_Plating Silthion Exo-Plating: Cost to repair told by wiki: 760,000 Actual upkeep: 800,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... or_Plating Stryll Confinement Chamber: Upkeep told by wiki: 1,100 Actual upkeep: 2,500. http://prntscr.com/19doo4 Cost to repair told by wiki: 47,500 Actual repaircost: 50,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ransmitter Upkeep told by wiki: 12,500 Actual upkeep: 25,000. http://prntscr.com/19dq6z Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 500,000. (upkeep * 20. Note: Only applies to Mark II.) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ogic_Servo Upkeep and Repair cost MISSING. Actual upkeep: 7,500. http://prntscr.com/19dql6 Actual repaircost: 150,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... Power_Core Upkeep told by wiki: 24,000 Actual upkeep: 25,000. http://prntscr.com/19dqoj Cost in repair told by wiki: 475,000 Actual repaircost: 500,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/XRP_Battery_Pack Upkeep told by wiki: 25,000 Actual upkeep: 500,000. http://prntscr.com/19dqxc Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 10,000,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ility_Core Upkeep told by wiki: 1,900,000 Actual upkeep: 2,500,000. http://prntscr.com/19dr9s (Note: this one has been upgraded by 100%, therefore increasing it's upkeep by 100%, making it 5,000,000.) Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 50,000,000. (upkeep * 20. Note: this one has been upgraded by 100%, therefore increasing it's upkeep by 100%, making it 100,000,000.) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... _Scrambler Cost to repair told by wiki: ?? Actual repaircost: 50,000. (upkeep * 20) Artifact effects told by wiki: 25 defence + 25 cloak. Actual artifacteffects: 20 defence + 25 cloak. http://prntscr.com/19drse http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... Translator Cost to repair told by wiki: 47,500. Actual repaircost: 50,000. (upkeep * 20. At the moment I measured it, it needed a full repair and therefore proving this calculation correct. http://prntscr.com/19ds0p ) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... _Interface Upkeep told by wiki: 12,900 Actual upkeep: 15,000. http://prntscr.com/19dsfi Cost to repair told by wiki: ??? Actual repaircost: 300,000. (upkeep * 20) Limitations told by wiki: Can't be recharged. Actual limitations: Can be recharged at the cost of 6 Galaxy Points. http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ic_Crystal Cost to repair told by wiki: 50,000 Actual repaircost: 100,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ransponder Upkeep told by wiki: 1,300 Actual upkeep: 2,500. http://prntscr.com/19dtl3 Cost to repair told by wiki: 47,500 Actual repaircost: 50,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Triaxial_Array Upkeep told by wiki: 38,000 Actual upkeep: 3,800. http://prntscr.com/19dtx2 Cost to repair told by wiki: ??? Actual repaircost: 76,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Voliir_Modulator Cost to repair told by wiki: 25,000 Actual repaircost: 50,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Zolazin_Jammer Cost to repair told by wiki: 47,500 Actual repaircost: 50,000. (upkeep * 20) http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... rface_Jack Upkeep and Repair cost MISSING. Actual upkeep: 2,750,000. http://prntscr.com/19dun7 , tho corrected by repaircost. Actual repaircost: 55,000,000 (upkeep * 20) http://prntscr.com/19dv10 The errors I found here are not deeply measured. The only deep measure I made was from the Interface Jack, where the Repair cost allowed me to determine the exact upkeep. At any other device, I haven't tested that, as they were not broken and I don't want to break them myself just to measure this. Measured items: Crimson Auto-Phaser Ion Pulse Ballistae Lazuli Mind Controller Psionic Amplifier Vortul Blast Phaser Auto-Evasion Node Dark Ring Thruster Octafari Deflector Scruuge X-Deflector Subquantum Tracing Console T.O. Force Barrier. Total page missing. Biomimetic Sealer II (Note: I can't tell wether the wiki is correct or not, because it's not there) Klavium Fortified Plating Mylarai Plasma Lance Silthion Exo-Plating. Total Page missing. Stryll Confinement Chamber Genetarr Transmitter II Q-Pedd Logic Servo Drannik Power Core XRP Battery Pack Alarri Probability Core Bio-Signature Scrambler Exo-Temporal Translator Litheor Data Interface Litheor Tetractic Crystal Sha'din Hypergrid Core Stryll Transponder Triaxial Array Voliir Modulator Zolazin Jammer Zortah's Interface Jack The only 100% correct modules I measured were: Psionic Amplifier Subquantum Tracing Console Sha'din Hypergrid Core Which might mean that the wiki is, to a rough estimate, 3/31*100%=9,7% correct on every page and the information on the pages where the errors excist, all have to do with money. To my opinion, an extremely important aspect. Some numbers didn't even come near the actual number. This is only what I have currently installed. Please update the wiki everywhere, on every page. I am eager to do this as well, but I do not have the permission to edit this information I have for you. Sorry for the long post, it took me around 2 hours to measure all this. I hope that this information will consider administrators to make the wiki more open for editing.

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Author:	Devastation [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Incorrect data on the wiki
The wiki was clamped down, security wise, due to a large number of spam-bots spamming the wiki, and making it all spammy. I'll see if I can find the time to start on this list... Thanks.

Author:	thunderbolta [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Incorrect data on the wiki
I've done up to Auto Evasion (included). Will find the time to do the rest later, or someone else can.

Author:	thunderbolta [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Merged Datanode - wiki
There's no precedent for requiring screenshots on the wiki.

Author:	PLURVIOUS [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Incorrect data on the wiki
XxDarthDexterxX wrote: The wiki was clamped down, security wise, due to a large number of spam-bots spamming the wiki, and making it all spammy. I'll see if I can find the time to start on this list... Thanks. I call BS on this. There are easy ways to block spambots from a wiki (for example, CAPTCHA). Look that up on Wikipedia (a real Wiki, on which spam does not appear to be a problem...). A few players derive pleasure out of a sense of being among the elite who are "in control" of the Wiki - just under the guise of "to prevent spam". Since Dan is largely hands-off, these players are free to continue their exercise.

Author:	Devastation [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Incorrect data on the wiki
PLURVIOUS wrote: XxDarthDexterxX wrote: The wiki was clamped down, security wise, due to a large number of spam-bots spamming the wiki, and making it all spammy. I'll see if I can find the time to start on this list... Thanks. I call BS on this. There are easy ways to block spambots from a wiki (for example, CAPTCHA). Look that up on Wikipedia (a real Wiki, on which spam does not appear to be a problem...). A few players derive pleasure out of a sense of being among the elite who are "in control" of the Wiki - just under the guise of "to prevent spam". Since Dan is largely hands-off, these players are free to continue their exercise. Well that's your take on it, but that's the reason behind it. Why don't you read more about spam-prevention, here.

Author:	PLURVIOUS [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Incorrect data on the wiki
XxDarthDexterxX wrote: PLURVIOUS wrote: XxDarthDexterxX wrote: The wiki was clamped down, security wise, due to a large number of spam-bots spamming the wiki, and making it all spammy. I'll see if I can find the time to start on this list... Thanks. I call BS on this. There are easy ways to block spambots from a wiki (for example, CAPTCHA). Look that up on Wikipedia (a real Wiki, on which spam does not appear to be a problem...). A few players derive pleasure out of a sense of being among the elite who are "in control" of the Wiki - just under the guise of "to prevent spam". Since Dan is largely hands-off, these players are free to continue their exercise. Well that's your take on it, but that's the reason behind it. Why don't you read more about spam-prevention, here. Funny how all the other Wikis out there don't have this problem...

Author:	Devastation [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Incorrect data on the wiki
Read the article, they most likely use something such as the honey-pot method. Dan is running an old version of MediaWiki. It probably has no anti-spam measures. I also don't understand your issue with people being in charge. It's just a wiki, and it offers no gain whatsoever. The people picked have passion for maintaining the wiki.

Author:	senatorhung [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Merged Datanode - wiki
PATRICKKASIE wrote: Annabell wrote: PATRICKKASIE wrote: Missing Data on the wiki from the merged datanode. When the datanode has been fully upgraded, you will recieve 4% defence bonus, not currently present in the galaxy legion wiki. I just wanted to say that. http://prntscr.com/19cfr0 http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/Merged_Datanode The wiki is community maintained, so if you find missing or incorrect information in the future, feel free to fix it. It said that I couldn't log in due to administrators cause or something. I can't edit the wiki, so I'll add it here and maybe it will be edited. As I have seen right now, it did. here is the forum topic with the information you need to set up a wiki account. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32908

Author:	senatorhung [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:58 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Incorrect data on the wiki
PLURVIOUS wrote: PLURVIOUS wrote: XxDarthDexterxX wrote: The wiki was clamped down, security wise, due to a large number of spam-bots spamming the wiki, and making it all spammy. I call BS on this. There are easy ways to block spambots from a wiki (for example, CAPTCHA). Look that up on Wikipedia (a real Wiki, on which spam does not appear to be a problem...). A few players derive pleasure out of a sense of being among the elite who are "in control" of the Wiki - just under the guise of "to prevent spam". Since Dan is largely hands-off, these players are free to continue their exercise. Funny how all the other Wikis out there don't have this problem... spam doesn't 'appear' to be a problem on Wikipedia because they have 385 volunteers specifically dealing with it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... rticipants the requirement for admin intervention before the creation of new wiki accounts was a LAST resort, when Dan appointed a couple of us as additional wiki admins in November 2012, there were over 6000 wiki pages ... over 5000 of which were spam. keyword blocking and manually blocking individual user/IPs failed miserably to keep up with spam.bots. since February 2013, when DAN made the change to require user verification for new wiki account creations (chosen from among the options that i forwarded to him, including CAPTCHAs), no new spam pages / user accounts have been created. as long as the wiki is working as intended ... providing information about the game and its players ... then if the only time anyone notices a wikiadmin is when they sign up for an account, then that suits me just fine. all the spam pages have been deleted (MANUALLY !) and NO ONE has raised any issues with me in the last 8 months about any of the actions that i have taken on the wiki. i have NO idea where you get the 'elite' status idea ... the .sig reference is merely for those who can't manage to find the pinned topic in the issues and support forum.

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Author:	PLURVIOUS [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Incorrect data on the wiki
OK, look. If you need someone to explain to you how to prevent so-called "spam" on a wiki (and how to embed images - another skill that appears to elude our Wiki admins), let me know and I'd be glad to help. Otherwise, enjoy your little pet project.

Author:	senatorhung [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Incorrect data on the wiki
PLURVIOUS wrote: OK, look. If you need someone to explain to you how to prevent so-called "spam" on a wiki (and how to embed images - another skill that appears to elude our Wiki admins), let me know and I'd be glad to help. Otherwise, enjoy your little pet project. those settings are only currently available to the Wiki Bureaucrat ... which is only Dan. me, i'd rather he deal with game coding than fiddling with wiki settings. as for needing someone to 'explain', in my 30+ years of computer experience, anyone who needs to tout their expertise, usually is not an expert that i feel any need to consult. EDIT: hmm, but if you can convince Dan to give YOU Bureaucrat permissions ...

Author:	Devastation [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Incorrect data on the wiki
PLURVIOUS wrote: OK, look. If you need someone to explain to you how to prevent so-called "spam" on a wiki (and how to embed images - another skill that appears to elude our Wiki admins), let me know and I'd be glad to help. Otherwise, enjoy your little pet project. As for embedding images, Dan said no to this. It was also Dan's decision to make people admins, so if you don't like it, then tough.