ok so yesterday i got 19K reserach off our base then i go in today and get my research and i only get 14K the base has not been altered at all and the buffs were on and we have not been disabled in 10 days....

Had anyone join your legion recently, as that would affect the share ratio.

no one has joined our legion nor left or become inactive

look at the timer on the production buff..... does it look like it was up before or after the the base production timer hit zero?
remember, the production buff is a 20 hour timer so if someone put it up within the 4 hours after the base production timer hit 0, that was a wasted buff and it would have to be rebuffed before the timer hit 0

also... check your legion list... hover over the offline/online status for each person to make sure none of them dropped the legion for a quick trade then rejoined... if they did, loyalty bonus would have been affected...

ALSO... double-check the production rates on the base... make sure nobody spent 25 GP to re-allocate production

i put it up right before i collected it like always

This is probably the problem. It doesn't matter when you put it up in relation to your collection time. It needs to be done before the base distributes its funds.

right before you collected?
but was that right after the production timer hit 0?
2 hours after the production timer hit 0?
or 4 or more hours after the production timer hit 0?

how much time was showing on the production timer when you collected?
23h 59m?
22h?
20h?
something less than 19h 59m 59s?

if there is more than 20 hours on the base production timer you should wait until it is less than 20 hours before production buffs are applied

how so iv always done it like that and its always worked fine and given 19K research not 14k

idk i would guess about 19 hours or so remaining

let's say your base (hypothetically speaking) has its 24 hour production timer hitting 0 at...... 2am

now lets say you log on at 5am after waking up to go to the bathroom, see that the base production is there, claim, and apply the 20 hour production buff...

20 hours after 5am is 1am the next day....
so 1am, the production buff drops, and 2am the next production comes around...
since the buff has dropped before production, you do not gain that extra amount the buff would have granted

how gay im not sure why we changed it from 24 hours to 20 .......but whateva it makes no diff to me my legion just got shorted 5 thousand research points tho............thx

it was changed because on a 24 hour buff, people were unable to buff at the same time everyday.... because they had to wait until after it dropped to reapply


though i had made a slightly different (and more reasonable suggestion) i still wish Dan would consider...

i had suggested either being able to reapply the 24 hour buff while it was already up, and have it only reset the timer to 24 hours again...
or...
leave it at a 24 hour timer but as part of the production distribution procedure when the production timer hit 0, have the buff automatically dropped so it could be reapplied

i'm still hoping Dan would do one of these two because i knew the 20 hour timer would cause confusion and aggrevation and missing base production

+1 to both ideas it does not matter to me if i get base production or not but to our level 100 or less memebers its very important.