I'm going to ask the question and we'll see how many actually read the whole thread before trolling.

For purposes of base battles, because let's face it, when you are on a long base battle your hand is really starting to hurt, and clicking on a mouse for 4-8 hours is a bit ridiculous. THE ONLY question I have is a program or maybe a controller with an autofire feature against ToS? Just something to click the mouse button for you and save your hand/mouse. The incessant clicking is a bit ridiculous in such a situation and really when you think about it, it wouldn't be doing anything you couldn't do for yourself except you aren't killing your hand and/or mouse.

ALL the question is about, is a autoclicker program, NOT a bot program, not something that plays the game for you, merely something that clicks the mouse to make sure we all don't develop carpel-tunnels. What about an old school USB autofire controller?

These are just things I think wouldn't take away from the game, maybe just take a bit of frustration away. Keep in mind we still have to stop the clicker and repair, recharge shields, and fill energy so it isn't like we can walk away.

Well yes, you could "walk away". There are such programs (namely, GhostMouse) that records a set movement of your mouse and clicking pattern. Then, when you play it, it loops, in which you could make it: attack the base for 5 min, use an arti (or multiple), repair your hulls, and go back to attacking the base.

It would all work out, assuming you can last 5 min against a base. If not, the person could simply have a ton of nanos, and it could be recorded to use one every minute or so (you will generally take a similar amount of damage each hit from the base w/ the same artis and eveything)...

So yeah, it sort of would be like using a bot.

Ok, there are programs out there that all they do is CLICK, not record button strokes and are totally programmable. My question was.....IS USING A SIMPLE AUTOCLICK PROGRAM AGAINST TOS? Not a keylogger, not a bot program, I'm not asking for anything more than something that saves us from incessant clicking.

An autoclicker is an automatic process that circumvents the presentation of the Game in that it performs an action that is required to play certain aspects of the game i.e. clicking Attack on a base or NPC. Therefore it IS a violation of the ToS.

Don't risk a ban because...let's face it...you're too lazy to click for yourself.

An Auto-Click program is still a bot, regardless of what purpose it serves, as to put it so simply that even wikipedia would tell anyone;

"bots, are software applications that run automated tasks over the Internet".


I just spent 4 hours constant npc'ing taking intermittent 10 minute breaks. You've got 8 fingers and 2 thumbs. If i can use all of these in alternating fashion then so can anyone else.(unless a handicap prevents them).

I do believe it is against the ToS, thou depend on the usage, you might never be caught.

Specifically, like f3ar said, depend on which auto-clicker you are using and how you program its sequence of action, it can be for many purposes the exact same as a bot.

I've made a few short "program" of those sorts for games where it does not breach the rules (MMO that only ban "hacks" or other things that interfere with I/O, but allow external bots that simply interface with normal player interface, and well.... simple flash games, like one where it asks u to solve a matching puzzle game thing 5000 times...) and they can be very powerful

That would be the reason why it should, if not already, banned by ToS.

Keep in mind, an action is often banned not for the nature of the specific action itself, but for the possible nature of the type of action as a whole. For example, one could very well hack the game simply to export VISIBLE information of his planets to an excel chart for better management, this hurts no one and just save a bit of time. But you know that hack could be bad, hence hack is not allowed. And for all intents and purposes, your idea of a "simple autoclick program" just cannot be seperated from the more advanced ones from the view of the devs--they have no way of knowing.

You're still clicking the button, you are merely using a piece of software or hardware to do it. It's not circumventing the game, it is playing within the rules, it is just merely using something "for health benefits" I guess to stop with the insane clicking. There is no benefit from it other than not destroying your mouse and hand, it gives no added bonus to the game. Circumventing is what people were doing before Dan FIXED the game and trying to do 8 billion clicks a second to beat the server, now that this is fixed and it is not possible to do such things anymore, what is the harm in saving your hand/mouse?

If let's say RAZOR, released a mouse with an autofire feature, a simple button that when pressed it just kept clicking, would you have a problem? Should you NOT use this feature to save the wear and tear on a mouse, some people have better mouses that are a bit more expensive, why wear them out by clicking a couple million times on a base battle?

A mere click, click, click at a low click rate would hardly make much difference. A simple clicker would still require you to be actively monitoring it, and how is anyone even going to know? The difference is putting it on 2000 clicks per second and 2 clicks per second.

I can set my mouse to do a click each time I roll the scroll wheel.
It even has one of those fancy friction-less scroll wheels
I think using that would be a bit overboard though so I stick to the normal click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click

Autoclickers can cycle a set of single action clicks faster than is possible with human skills. That means you can kill more NPCs in the same amount of time, let's say 20 minutes, by using a clicker. Oh, by the way, a Neural Interface boosts your XP gain by 15% for 20 minutes. Right there is an in-game advantage to using one, and part of why it is a violation.

Agreed. And seriously, if you can't handle a few clicks per session maybe you should do some other than Galaxy Legion. Perhaps some push-ups?

I can click faster than the game registers the clicks (as would most people, if they had my internet). If I were to use a clicker, nothing would change...

None of this really applies to me anyways. A 1.2k energy bar does not require a clicker.

From my knowledge of the game, it maxes out on the clicks you can do anyway. Unless you have tested and found this to be untrue otherwise. I've clicked with my own hand faster than the game is willing to take input so I know there has to be a limit. So how is this an unfair advantage if I myself can reach the limit if I just sit there and click? No unfair advantages, no "special" bonuses.

Oh and btw, thank you so much Raven for trying to take this to the personal level. You always have so much class!

Note the word CLICKER here guys. Not a bot to do everything for you, just something to click every 5 seconds or something so you can do something more productive instead of wasting so much time clicking, i personally do not see any reason why this shouldn't be allowed, as like previous people have said, the clicks on the game are limited, so why are people making a fuss over it???

Your welcome. This thread was lacking some levity. All jokes aside though, use the Turbo Clicker you have. It's only cheating if you are the only person on the planet that can purchase one and it gave you a definitive edge and even then, that's like getting mad at someone for using a webcam to communicate instead of typing. It's an accessory that you purchased so I don't see anything wrong with it.

An auto-clicker might just level the playing field for those of you who don't have a fancy clicker.

Using a keyboard as a mouse is not against the TOS.
My keyboard has hair trigger buttons so I can click uber fast with it.
I can use my mouse to navigate and the keyboard to click.

Casual NPCing where I use a mouse like a normal person - I have to wait at most 30 seconds for my repair timer
Using the above combo - I have to wait at least 3 min for my repair timer

If I had an endless supply of repair nanos I could have a lot of fun
I don't though so I just casually NPC while talking to people on FB or watching a movie.

I tried an autoclicker for about 3 minutes just prior to the Great Time Manipulator Crisis. Not to gain any advantage, but to see for myself if the "rumors" were justified. It made a significant difference for me in killing NPCs. Dan may have slowed down the server polling when we were having problems with certain individuals intentionally lagging the system by using autoclickers. That's another reason why they are/should be illegal. Any time the server is forced to process more actions than is normal, it "confuses" the system and "weird" things happen. Like multiple badge rewards from bases, multiple NPC drops, 10 identical raids, etc.

Here's another example of potential exploiting... You get gang tackled by a half dozen people. Just set your autoclicker to a low-rate, high-count and run it on shield restorers or repair nanos. While your supply lasts, your ship is invincible and you can actually walk away from your computer and not have to worry about getting disabled.

This. I don't believe a program that calls an event every x time should be considered a TOS violation - just the possibilities that come with it for abuse. There's mice and keyboards all over the world that can do these things and can be macro'd to repeat an action every x seconds. One example is easily my mouse (Cyborg M.M.O. 7) or any Razer hardware.
Not to mention.. How is a clicker circumventing the presentation of GL? It doesn't change anything in the game nor does it find a way around it's 'means', it simply performs a simple.. Yet excessive task that you, the user perform, using that interface.




I do agree with that.. But it's all aside the point of nature of the thread

It is, or should be(depend on interpretation) against the ToS.

Not because of the action you plan to do with it
But due to what COULD be done with actions of similiar kind

Because there is no way to know from dan's side if the this action of this type is of malicious use or simply "for your health"

It does not matter AT ALL what YOU plan to do with the autoclicker, only the extend of damage that autoclicker could do to the game at its fullest.

That said... if you are gonna use it in a non-abusing fashion, tbh, you will probably never be caught, so even if it's against the rules.... it hardly matters for you.

Have we received a formal response from game admin on this question yet? This is a question that does need to be clarified formally.