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 Farming scans then reseting - wtf 
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So I noticed The Hellfire Legion, a bunch of human/inergon explorers that scan then reset their account.
Darkl1ng in particular found a planet, hit it for whatever reason (no weapons), then turned from a rank 22 human to a rank 4 inergon a couple minutes later.
I'm also told that ppl multi these things just to find planets to share with their higher rank "real" player. I think this is crap.
Should have a detection mechanism or simply not allow more than a couple resets without mailing support. They are probably looping this ad infinitum, since I see their pattern of race/prof and equipment seems to support that.

This is more about preventing the behavior than anything to do with the particular legion or player, but if you look at their activity it should become clear what's happening.

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Mon May 09, 2011 11:29 pm
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Jus realized I should be speakin in te clear fer this, so's I'll restate fer te Piraticall challenged:

The biggest point to be made here is that multi-accounting is against the rules, both for Facebook and for Galaxy Legion. I don't know anyone who would willingly make an account and use it in this fashion, building it up to a certain rank, collecting a list of planets, then giving the ones found away to other players, only to reset and find another selection of planets to give away. Even if the argument is that they are collecting them with the aid of someone else, to be shared back at a later time, the ability to do so is hampered by the lack of a scan of those same worlds on the ship that is the intended recipient. The only way this could be reasonably accomplished it would take the one sharing using 5 Galaxy Points to abandon the world that was shared to the other player. While this is possible, I deem it highly unlikely. Most people who would multi-account use one account to give all benefits to the other, not sharing back and forth.

As to what I have seen occur in the past, I have observed a rank 27 player who was apparently in no legion before enter the legion I was in at the time, share a world to another specific player, state that a payment was accepted, then leave the legion within the span of approximately three minutes. This may have been an honest transaction, or it could have been a person's second (third, fourth...) account passing a planet that was of great value to his or her main account. Both are plausible, so I did not say anything, but it did trip a warning flag in my mind that it had happened. Regardless, the world shared was a very large terra with 3x mega rich artifact production. That seems an awfully good world to hand off to someone else for a fee. Perhaps the person thought a higher ranked player would have a better chance of keeping such a prize world, and that could have some merit, but most players are in the game for themselves, and are greedy. That means giving away such a planet is highly unlikely.

I have seen people exchange planets within my legion. Sometimes it's because one person needs a resource, and the other has excess. Sometimes the shared world is of a caliber that are not worth the sharer taking it themselves, as their standards are higher. Often a shared world causes a demand for recompense from the recipient or they just share something back out of courtesy, but there is usually a give and take for such transactions. Sometimes a large player will give a small player planets to aid them in developing their account within the game, in which unoccupied but lower quality planets, or occupied by inactive or small players, are given freely. (I have seen this among husband and wife, siblings, etc.) In all of these cases, the lesser account was receiving generosity from the greater, not vice versa.

One other scenario I have observed has a small player share a planet to larger ones that was held by a high ranked owner and is often heavily defended. That is the occasion I have seen what I deem as legitimate smaller account to larger account planet share. In addition, while the smaller accounts BinaryMan has observed are resetting themselves to generate fresh planet lists, the small accounts I view as genuine are rank up, but are sometimes slow to level. They are not resetting themselves continually, as worlds I have given remain with the accounts I have interacted with.

Long winded, but that is what I have observed directly.

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Tue May 17, 2011 7:06 am
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I've seen several near rank 21 or 25 before, looks like that group of 3-4 accounts all reset in sync. While the behavior might just be inside that legion, I can imagine someone doing this and sharing good planets to a higher account or legion. The ability to reset more than a couple times allows this to continue... I wouldn't have seen it but Darkling happened to ding my planet RIGHT before he reset his account, bringing it to my attention and making the strategy obvious (their ranks/profs/race selection, even equipment he had on).

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Tue May 17, 2011 7:19 am
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what? no pirate talk? :P

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Vekno wrote:
what? no pirate talk? :P

I'd o made yer eyes bleed wit it afore long. I did type it out all Pirate-like, an twas a thing o beauty, but then I thought te meself, "What o othars who canna read me salty blather?" An so twas a painful thing, but I rewrote it in plainspeak so's ye'all could unnerstand it.

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You can only reset your account once week i think, no matter, one week is sufficient time to research scanners and accumulate a list of planets, especially high rankers can supply these "scanners" with artifacts needed to find planets.
I know soo many multiaccounts, i don't have solid proof, but i can tell but how they talk and communicate and attack people.

I've even seen a facebook page that said exactly this.
"this ship can be our legion scout ship ... 4 all to use ... we should make her tough ... pure hull"
And Entire legions consisting of purely Vygoid Miners making them look a bit wierd. Look up the legion, i think "New Age", dan already blocked that legion i think

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Commonwealth <TK> wrote:
You can only reset your account once week i think, no matter, one week is sufficient time to research scanners and accumulate a list of planets, especially high rankers can supply these "scanners" with artifacts needed to find planets.
I know soo many multiaccounts, i don't have solid proof, but i can tell but how they talk and communicate and attack people.

I've even seen a facebook page that said exactly this.
"this ship can be our legion scout ship ... 4 all to use ... we should make her tough ... pure hull"
And Entire legions consisting of purely Vygoid Miners making them look a bit wierd. Look up the legion, i think "New Age", dan already blocked that legion i think

"Fairly new players concentrating on sharing planets and resources, laying low and being quiet until we are the best. Then we will strike!"

Wow, 46 Vygoid Miners, one Vygoid Excavator, one Vygoid Builder, and one Konqul Raider. Looks like a one man legion te me! Had te see it te believe it, thar legion status says "acceptin requests" fer some reason.

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There active again... wtf? i swer it was 0% active at some point...

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From what a game designer i know says it not worth the time and trouble. Accept is as an evil of the game and what it is. I fight a multi daily and take it for what it is.....like chris m. says(which is one of my sayings)...It is what it is.

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A reasonable solution would make planet alerting unavailable to players under level 50. 50 being a number chosen at random but designed to be easy to get to if you're a real player, and a pain in the ass to wait for, if you're a multi-accounter.

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50 sounds about right, whatever the average person who's been playing this game gets to in 6 weeks or so to make it not worth the effort to multi like that.


Wed May 18, 2011 8:39 pm
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There all inergon explorers in the legion hellfire. :S , more energy and scanning power.

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Threadbare wrote:
A reasonable solution would make planet alerting unavailable to players under level 50. 50 being a number chosen at random but designed to be easy to get to if you're a real player, and a pain in the ass to wait for, if you're a multi-accounter.

Rank 50 tis costly unless a player was makin an Inergon explorer an has someone feedin 'em Neurals/RSLs. If ye give an Inergon those an do pure energy build, ye kin pass rank 50 inside o a day, accordin te my math on it. (Been learnin piles 'bout energy builds since Rev joined Pirates.)

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Then the next option is to limit it based on time played since latest reset.


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Just multis being multis...Im with you rev, but i gave up on it, I recommend you do as well. Dan knows and hos known for sometime now, I just think its not such an easy fix.

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