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Looking for tips other than "work on artifact production"
Mostly because I am in artifact legion and I cannot properly defend decent artifact planets yet


Battles 1803 (Seasoned)
Player Kills 240
Deaths from Players 4
Non-Player Kills 9
Planets Found 80
Planets Occupied 5
Planets Captured 27
Missions Completed 3
Scans Performed 213
Successful Hacks 1051
Successful Raids 228

Ship Design Atlas
Size Class Frigate
Weapons none
Energy F.A.T.H.E.R. x2
Sensors Decryption Quad-Frame ( 1 online/3 offline)
Hull Merged Nexus Armor (1 offline unless I go to sleep) Protean Armory x3
Shields none
Cloaking CipherBot x3
Defenses Trinity-Core Drive x2

Size Class: Frigate
Space: 123 / 124
Attack: 449
Defense: 330
Scan: 26
Cloak: 160
Cargo: 1520.8 / 2230
Upkeep: 4M

Minerals 573 units / hour
Artifacts 22 points / hour
Research 748 research / hour

Key trees of research done are;
Meta-Chron Fields
Research Levels: 2 / 3
1511 / 175000
Points Remaining: 173489

Neutronium
Research Levels: 0 / 3
1483 / 150000
Points Remaining: -

Sub-Dimensional Sensors
Research Levels: 0 / 3
0 / 45000
Points Remaining: 45000

Stellar Engineering
Research Levels: 0 / 3
0 / 300000
Points Remaining: 300000

AI Logistics
Research Levels: 1 / 3
11562 / 50000
Points Remaining: 38438

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Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:34 pm
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Very good at rank 25, however I would improve your artifact production. Aim to have at very least 600 by rank 50!
Also take off the CipherBots and add another hull set... More hull = More Hits to kill...

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Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:18 pm
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Work on artifact production ( sorry, couldn't resist :P )
Truth is that if you have any say VL er arti worlds you can set them up with just production mods they aren't that likely to be invaded and if they are they can be easily replaced. See if anyone in your legion can help you out with a couple of them if you dont have any yourself.

Other than that your ships looking good, you dont seem to be in any of the usual newbie traps. I would stop taking mining worlds for a while as you have ample, best to focus on research and artifact untill your research reaches the point that upkeep becomes a problem.
Other than that keep growing and give an update in 20-25 ranks time.

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Namekian wrote:
Very good at rank 25, however I would improve your artifact production. Aim to have at very least 600 by rank 50!
Also take off the CipherBots and add another hull set... More hull = More Hits to kill...


I was deciding if I had enough time to type it all up on my dying phone the other day but I didn't.

What I do when I go offline is uninstall all 3 CipherBots and leave 1 quadframe online for the random hackers.
During that time, I turn on my second merged nexus giving me a total of roughly 3k hull and like 300 shield.

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Work on artifact production ( sorry, couldn't resist :P )
Truth is that if you have any say VL er arti worlds you can set them up with just production mods they aren't that likely to be invaded and if they are they can be easily replaced. See if anyone in your legion can help you out with a couple of them if you dont have any yourself.

Other than that your ships looking good, you dont seem to be in any of the usual newbie traps. I would stop mining worlds for a while as you have ample, best to focus on research and artifact untill your research reaches the point that upkeep becomes a problem.
Other than that keep growing and give an update in 20-25 ranks time.


My current planets are:
VL/VA Toxic
VM/VA Gas
M/VR Metallic
VL/15x Toxic
C/17x Plasma

I actually lose credits daily due to the 4M compared to my daily 1M-2M. I wish to get some good arti planets but most of the planets I scan aren't the best or are enemy owned. I'll see what I can find in my list and try to occupy it.

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Might want to slow rank a bit to research those +12 artifact planet mods. You'll need all the artifact production you can get.


Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:10 am
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Might want to slow rank a bit to research those +12 artifact planet mods. You'll need all the artifact production you can get.


Considered that before when I hopped out for 2-3 weeks. Turned out it'll take way longer when slow-ranking unless I get at least 80k from a base and 40-60k daily

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Ludis wrote:
Might want to slow rank a bit to research those +12 artifact planet mods. You'll need all the artifact production you can get.


Awful suggestion, he will not benefit from slow ranking with no artifact or research production. I recommend doing it at a later rank that way it wont take as long...

Heres what I think... Improve your planets overtime, because there is no point having 12's if you can't generate enough resources to make them... 8's are very cheap and give 2+ more resources than 6's for 1 additional space.

If you want to slow rank then do it at a later rank where you will generate more resources overtime... however my opinion is slow ranking is a bad tactic and it will only make you weaker as someone who has been playing just as long will be a lot more powerful... Don't waste you time low ranking where it is not required.

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Ludis wrote:
Might want to slow rank a bit to research those +12 artifact planet mods. You'll need all the artifact production you can get.


Horrible advice. The research gains will continue if you are ranking or not. However, if you are not ranking, you are not getting additional planet slots which means you are not increasing productions. Please whoever is reading this, do not taking Ludis' advice.


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Ludis wrote:
Might want to slow rank a bit to research those +12 artifact planet mods. You'll need all the artifact production you can get.


Horrible advice. The research gains will continue if you are ranking or not. However, if you are not ranking, you are not getting additional planet slots which means you are not increasing productions. Please whoever is reading this, do not taking Ludis' advice.


You are sitting in an artifact legion, gaining scientists that you get naturally without the need of research planets. You're increasing your research by doing that. You don't need research planets if you have a good artifact legion making you stronger. Or you might be sitting in research legion and getting all the planet structures you need. So, find a legion that gives you the best production and allows you to get what you need instead sitting in a legion that gives almost nothing. You are getting your +12 artifact planet mods early on, so if you want to get another planet,ask someone for one, and all you gotta do is get someone to build that mod on your planet and won't need to worry about wasting time upgrading them all at the same time at higher ranks. If you cannot get a planet from them, just wait for the research to just flow in slowly and get your best scan mods on to go for a scan run. I promote slow ranking for these reasons.


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And how are you going to occupy this planet with no planetary slots? Are you high? the +12s will come if you are ranking or not. By not ranking, or slow ranking, all you are doing is slowing down your rate of production gains.


Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:21 pm
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And how are you going to occupy this planet with no planetary slots? Are you high? the +12s will come if you are ranking or not. By not ranking, or slow ranking, all you are doing is slowing down your rate of production gains.


Slow ranking is still ranking, but you are just not ranking as fast. Therefore, you are still getting your planets. Whenever you need a planet, all you have to do is rank up when you FEEL like it is time to get a new planet and increase your artifact production when you FEEL that it is right to. You will be able to slowly increase your production gains slowly, but efficiently early on while you slow rank in the legion you are in. It's ok to depend on your legion for artifact/research production support at any rank.

If you were to increase your artifact production too much early on, then you would miss out on it if you are not actively grabbing your production. That is why I consider slow ranking in a good artifact/research legion to get the artifacts needed to increase your production storage with the collective theory lab from either scientists or a research base before increasing your artifact production too much.


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So you are saying that purposely slowing your production gains will get you more production? Have you thought this through?


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I'm saying that it's ok to have slow production if you're in a good legion and you can slowly gain production efficiently. You can probably be ready to increase your production even more at higher ranks just by having the patience to get the modules early on and possibly get better planets too. Basically, you're waiting for a huge increase in artifact production later on, more than those who have not researched these mods yet and are at your rank, and efficient storage, so you can hold more artifact production, that you won't have to actively collect artifact production.

Ever thought about saving for a big prize that is worth while instead of getting a small prize right now that is not?
Like a cereal box and stamps that you collect to send when you have a lot and win a big prize instead of just accepting the small toy in the box.


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I'm saying that it's ok to have slow production if you're in a good legion and you can slowly gain production efficiently. You can probably be ready to increase your production even more at higher ranks just by having the patience to get the modules early on and possibly get better planets too. Basically, you're waiting for a huge increase in artifact production later on, more than those who have not researched these mods yet and are at your rank, and efficient storage, so you can hold more artifact production, that you won't have to actively collect artifact production.

Ever thought about saving for a big prize that is worth while instead of getting a small prize right now that is not?
Like a cereal box and stamps that you collect to send when you have a lot and win a big prize instead of just accepting the small toy in the box.


Can you collect the prize from a cereal box only once a day? No? That means your metaphor is terribad. The most important resource in this game is time and every hour you go with less than maximum possible artifact production makes you weaker. If you do not maximize your production, you are making your ship weaker relatively to those that do maximize it. There are no ifs or buts about it.


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Ludis wrote:
I'm saying that it's ok to have slow production if you're in a good legion and you can slowly gain production efficiently. You can probably be ready to increase your production even more at higher ranks just by having the patience to get the modules early on and possibly get better planets too. Basically, you're waiting for a huge increase in artifact production later on, more than those who have not researched these mods yet and are at your rank, and efficient storage, so you can hold more artifact production, that you won't have to actively collect artifact production.

Ever thought about saving for a big prize that is worth while instead of getting a small prize right now that is not?
Like a cereal box and stamps that you collect to send when you have a lot and win a big prize instead of just accepting the small toy in the box.


Can you collect the prize from a cereal box only once a day? No? That means your metaphor is terribad. The most important resource in this game is time and every hour you go with less than maximum possible artifact production makes you weaker. If you do not maximize your production, you are making your ship weaker relatively to those that do maximize it. There are no ifs or buts about it.


Yes, you can collect the prize if you have the patience to collect them and send them for the big prize and if you are fast eater who eats cereal boxes in seconds. You are maximizing your production with +12 artifacts and building artifacts from the collective theory lab on to all your planets slowly. Your way of collecting artifact production is unstable and you do not recognize the problems of having inefficient artifact production. If every day you get more artifact production than what is given to you from a legion, base then you are growing stronger each day. Every hour you go with little production makes almost no difference in strength. If you increase your artifact production too much too soon, you are not getting the right output of artifact production if you are not active. I'm telling you to slowly increase your production, so your storage can catch up.

Are you active enough to gather artifact production every hour when it maxes storage to 100%?


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I am wondering how long you have been playing GL, Ludis?


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Ludis wrote:
I'm saying that it's ok to have slow production if you're in a good legion and you can slowly gain production efficiently. You can probably be ready to increase your production even more at higher ranks just by having the patience to get the modules early on and possibly get better planets too. Basically, you're waiting for a huge increase in artifact production later on, more than those who have not researched these mods yet and are at your rank, and efficient storage, so you can hold more artifact production, that you won't have to actively collect artifact production.

Ever thought about saving for a big prize that is worth while instead of getting a small prize right now that is not?
Like a cereal box and stamps that you collect to send when you have a lot and win a big prize instead of just accepting the small toy in the box.


Can you collect the prize from a cereal box only once a day? No? That means your metaphor is terribad. The most important resource in this game is time and every hour you go with less than maximum possible artifact production makes you weaker. If you do not maximize your production, you are making your ship weaker relatively to those that do maximize it. There are no ifs or buts about it.


Yes, you can collect the prize if you have the patience to collect them and send them for the big prize and if you are fast eater who eats cereal boxes in seconds. You are maximizing your production with +12 artifacts and building artifacts from the collective theory lab on to all your planets slowly. Your way of collecting artifact production is unstable and you do not recognize the problems of having inefficient artifact production. If every day you get more artifact production than what is given to you from a legion, base then you are growing stronger each day. Every hour you go with little production makes almost no difference in strength. If you increase your artifact production too much too soon, you are not getting the right output of artifact production if you are not active. I'm telling you to slowly increase your production, so your storage can catch up.

Are you active enough to gather artifact production every hour when it maxes storage to 100%?


Your suggestion only works if he is barely active or is purposely trying to slow rank to have a shiny kill/death ratio (which doesnt matter at all). If he is an active player he should be gathering more production as fast as possible regardless of storage capacity.

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Alright then, I'll just let the guy ruin himself actively looking at this game every single hour and interfering with his REAL life. Yeah try to get life or a job with this problem constantly over your head. It's very inconvenient and will eventually become an annoying routine. The guy will lose a lot of sleep as well. Sleep deprivation is bad and can cause halucinations and even death. He is not worth keeping if he is like this in any legion because of his loss of sanity over time. A well rested member is much more worth it in all legions, especially in boss battles and bases.


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Alright then, I'll just let the guy ruin himself actively looking at this game every single hour and interfering with his REAL life. Yeah try to get life or a job with this problem constantly over your head. It's very inconvenient and will eventually become an annoying routine. The guy will lose a lot of sleep as well. Sleep deprivation is bad and can cause halucinations and even death. He is not worth keeping if he is like this in any legion because of his loss of sanity over time. A well rested member is much more worth it in all legions, especially in boss battles and bases.


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Alright then, I'll just let the guy ruin himself actively looking at this game every single hour and interfering with his REAL life. Yeah try to get life or a job with this problem constantly over your head. It's very inconvenient and will eventually become an annoying routine. The guy will lose a lot of sleep as well. Sleep deprivation is bad and can cause halucinations and even death. He is not worth keeping if he is like this in any legion because of his loss of sanity over time. A well rested member is much more worth it in all legions, especially in boss battles and bases.


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