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I'm wondering what everyone's opinion would be on my two possible plans I've laid out..
I'm sitting at 19563 AP/hr currently as a Tali Excavator

Short term gain plan:
-get to 20k AP

- Go back to Konqul

- faster PvP for Auto-blasters/ killsboard/ pass Sirkeg on the board and mock the hell out of him

- faster NPC'ing to get the LM's done quicker

- higher damage to bases giving me a better shot at 100% raid

Long Term Gain plan

-Stay Tali

- wait to get to 25k-30k AP/h

- have a stronger ship to return to Konqul with

- then begin work on above PvP goals

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Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:06 pm
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i'd say stay talth till arti goals reached, meanwhile pvp, hopefully by the time you get your arti targets, pvp mods e.t.c. should all be done, then turn konqual and npc and kill bases. just my 2 cent.

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Billik wrote:
I'm wondering what everyone's opinion would be on my two possible plans I've laid out..
I'm sitting at 19563 AP/hr currently as a Tali Excavator

Short term gain plan:
-get to 20k AP This is ridiculously short term as you are a whole 2 planets away maybe

- Go back to Konqul

- faster PvP for Auto-blasters/ killsboard/ pass Sirkeg on the board and mock the hell out of him

- faster NPC'ing to get the LM's done quicker

- higher damage to bases giving me a better shot at 100% raid

Long Term Gain plan

-Stay Tali

- wait to get to 25k-30k AP/h

- have a stronger ship to return to Konqul with

- then begin work on above PvP goals

what is your attack right now?
to me the switching back and forth makes no sense

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Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:37 pm
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right now its 10522 unbuffed, higher than what I see normally pvp'ing, but some people actually know what they're doing and it takes a bit longer to kill them

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go konqul and stay konqul, npc like a beast, spend tech from npc'ing on keeping your planet slots full with nothing but arti planets that produce bare minimum of 200 AP/H, spend GP on abandoning your least efficient research planets and keep filling slots :P

this is all i have done for months now, currently rank 510 konqul exc 26200 AP/H, 10k MP and 13k RP, with like.. 22 research planets, 20 mineral planets and 85 artifact planets.

oh and what rank are you?


Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:30 pm
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574 ATM

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I'd actually advise the exact opposite. Go and stay talth untill 50k plus arti an hour.
Long run talth is the best race.
Unless you need the attack NOW, or are completely beastly stay talth.

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I wouldn't say I'm beastly, but right now I can get my quickest number of kills and get my autoblasters a good bit faster than I will at my target long term which will be maybe 650-700

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I wouldn't say I'm beastly, but right now I can get my quickest number of kills and get my autoblasters a good bit faster than I will at my target long term which will be maybe 650-700

You can get them just fine as talth too. The full set adds a whopping 320 attack.
It won't take long for you to have list that much in prisoners by not staying talth.

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Actually I did a little spreadsheet with my friend out of curiosity when taltherian will pass kongrul and it came to just under a year give or take a month or two but roughly around that but that's just gaining the attack from taltherian which is pretty nice I would have to say


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Actually I did a little spreadsheet with my friend out of curiosity when taltherian will pass kongrul and it came to just under a year give or take a month or two but roughly around that but that's just gaining the attack from taltherian which is pretty nice I would have to say

what were your assumptions?

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Well roughly everytime you use taltherian you gain roughly 40 ap it's not 100% accurate but gives a rough idea


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I am having the same thoughts as well billik, as such I have previous switched a fair bit between talth and konqul, I am currently taltherian with a goal of it being my long-term race til I have at least 50k arty. My view is that talth is a better long term race (the benefits are only effective if your taltherian for a long time). My preference would be to stick out the long haul with taltherian with the view that looking back in a years time I would much rather have all those x15 arty planets rather than some extra damage on bases/some extra badges.

Best of luck with the decision, that attack boost is always in my mind and takes effort not to take that option hahaha

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Also you can always switch when kongrul
Will give you more attack bonus because say u have 10k u will only go
Up to 12k but with 20k u will go up to 24k so after u get high arti go kongrul but I would also suggest litheor once u get alot of maxed arti planets


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Since most have suggested I take the long term plan I'll try to stick it out for the aeons as tali, however as a small comprimise, switch to konq after scan runs for the added invasion strength

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atomicwasted wrote:
Well roughly everytime you use taltherian you gain roughly 40 ap it's not 100% accurate but gives a rough idea

how many point per prisoner?

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Really it is better to stay talth when its all said and done I would say (keep in mind I havent unlocked Talth). I would say the extra 15x arti planets would be more valuable than any extra advantage konqul can give you. I only have 3 VL 15x or better arti planets right now (one is a 28x natural dyson ;) and my arti is just over 12k, not great but not bad either) and Im konqul. Ill tell you right now I would trade my attack for more arti right now no questions asked.

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I'll try to stick it out for the aeons as tali

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what exactly is your end goal... do you want to just be a pvp beast, or planet thief?
i find the two go hand in hand so well.
i steal someone elses hard work, as well as making my own arti planets, and currently im gaining a bit over 1K attack a month.

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