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Author:  spottered [ Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Thinking of making something for myself...

So, im thinking of making a legion and i was wondering how much income i could expect off it if the criteria were just me being in the legion and the income of a lvl1, lvl2 and lvl3 base would be?

exact numbers arent required, just a good educated estimate is enough, couldnt find anything to indicate anything helpful on the wiki

Author:  Darth Flagitious [ Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:28 pm ]
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The income would not be very much at all unless you build a level 6+ base when you could install +110 modules. Even at that, a one person legion would have a horrible bonus from Loyalty, nothing to speak of for defense bonuses (will die often losing the defender bonus), plus your planets would be at great risk due to no legion bonus for defense and no possible help with guarding.

In short, a one person legion is a very bad idea.

Author:  spottered [ Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:51 pm ]
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yeah, for the start it would be a bit nasty for me, it is gonna be a legion that i hope to grow eventually, just i cant expect to entice many to a lvl1-3 legion, just wanted to know if i could make any sort of the same income as i get now so i can start sooner, rather than having to stockpile and go later

Author:  thunderbolta [ Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:52 pm ]
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You're welcome to come and help us grow. We're still new, you avoid much of the hassle of the level 1-3s (although level 4 is still very shaky) but you get much the same experience. :)

Author:  spottered [ Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:23 pm ]
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thanks for the offer, i have plans of my own however ;)

Author:  Epicownage [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:34 pm ]
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spottered wrote:
thanks for the offer, i have plans of my own however ;)

You'll find it hard to find exact numbers as there are so many variables involved and I doubt many people remember how much you get from a level 1-3. I think the amount you can expect from a level 4 approximately is 15k maybe, while you can get about 25k from a level 4, 55k from a level 6 and 85k from a level 7. Be warned that these are more or less educated guesses.
http://galaxylegion.com/wiki/index.php/ ... nder_Bonus
The above link will tell you a hell of a lot about bases and how they work.

Author:  icarium81 [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:57 pm ]
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those numbers seem about right.. level 7 isnt that much of an increase though. you could have a level 6 with lots of trade routes that could match a level 7 easily.

as for one man legion.. i dont think youd ever get those numbers though. the LEGION bonus is most evident when you actually have a legion, and not a SOLO.

Author:  Epicownage [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:00 pm ]
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icarium81 wrote:
those numbers seem about right.. level 7 isnt that much of an increase though. you could have a level 6 with lots of trade routes that could match a level 7 easily.

as for one man legion.. i dont think youd ever get those numbers though. the LEGION bonus is most evident when you actually have a legion, and not a SOLO.

That is true, with a one man legion you can probably halve those numbers if not more. That and it's much harder to build up your base in the first place.

Author:  Tree7304 [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:19 pm ]
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Only person 1 person in the legion and assuming your base is never killed.

Level 3 base can have the 35 production modules at best I think
with 12 trading pacts (requires no extenders)
~14,456 arti/day
with 20 trading pacts (requires extenders for embassies)
~16,292 arti/day
with you being a vygoid or zolazin
~12,702 res/day

Level 4 base can have the 50 production modules
with 14 trading pacts (requires no extenders)
~37,011 arti/day
with 20 trading pacts (requires extenders for embassies)
~40,427 arti/day
with you being a vygoid or zolazin
~24,572 res/day

Level 5 base can have the 75 production modules
with 14 trading pacts (requires no extenders)
~78,897 arti/day
with 20 trading pacts (requires extenders for embassies)
~86,180 arti/day
with you being a vygoid or zolazin
~61,904 res/day

Not bothering with lvl 6 base
Before anyone asks where I got this, I made a calculator a while back.
There always seemed to be a slight rounding error somewhere hence the ~

Author:  Epicownage [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:27 pm ]
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Tree7304 wrote:
Only person 1 person in the legion and assuming your base is never killed.

Level 3 base can have the 35 production modules at best I think
with 12 trading pacts (requires no extenders)
~14,456 arti/day
with 20 trading pacts (requires extenders for embassies)
~16,292 arti/day
with you being a vygoid or zolazin
~12,702 res/day

Level 4 base can have the 50 production modules
with 14 trading pacts (requires no extenders)
~37,011 arti/day
with 20 trading pacts (requires extenders for embassies)
~40,427 arti/day
with you being a vygoid or zolazin
~24,572 res/day

Level 5 base can have the 75 production modules
with 14 trading pacts (requires no extenders)
~78,897 arti/day
with 20 trading pacts (requires extenders for embassies)
~86,180 arti/day
with you being a vygoid or zolazin
~61,904 res/day

Not bothering with lvl 6 base
Before anyone asks where I got this, I made a calculator a while back.
There always seemed to be a slight rounding error somewhere hence the ~

Are you sure loyalty bonuses are factored in there, because our level 5 only makes 24k arti a day and we have a mostly full, loyal legion and have 11 trade pacts.

Author:  Tree7304 [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:30 pm ]
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Having more people in your legion actually diminishes the base payout per player.

Take 2 bases that are exactly the same.
The one with more players will produce more overall but less per person.

Author:  Tree7304 [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking of making something for myself...

Epicownage wrote:
Are you sure loyalty bonuses are factored in there, because our level 5 only makes 24k arti a day and we have a mostly full, loyal legion and have 11 trade pacts.

A lvl 5 base with 75s and 39 loyal members and 11 trade pacts
23,242 arti/day

go to 20 trade pacts for
26,616

Author:  Epicownage [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:21 pm ]
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Tree7304 wrote:
Having more people in your legion actually diminishes the base payout per player.

Take 2 bases that are exactly the same.
The one with more players will produce more overall but less per person.

Oh ok, interesting, that didn't occur to me.

Author:  KJReed [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking of making something for myself...

Tree7304 wrote:
Only person 1 person in the legion and assuming your base is never killed.

Level 3 base can have the 35 production modules at best I think
with 12 trading pacts (requires no extenders)
~14,456 arti/day
with 20 trading pacts (requires extenders for embassies)
~16,292 arti/day
with you being a vygoid or zolazin
~12,702 res/day

Level 4 base can have the 50 production modules
with 14 trading pacts (requires no extenders)
~37,011 arti/day
with 20 trading pacts (requires extenders for embassies)
~40,427 arti/day
with you being a vygoid or zolazin
~24,572 res/day

Level 5 base can have the 75 production modules
with 14 trading pacts (requires no extenders)
~78,897 arti/day
with 20 trading pacts (requires extenders for embassies)
~86,180 arti/day
with you being a vygoid or zolazin
~61,904 res/day

Not bothering with lvl 6 base
Before anyone asks where I got this, I made a calculator a while back.
There always seemed to be a slight rounding error somewhere hence the ~


how are you doing your numbers?
lvl 5 i believe can be 4x mega (correct me if im wrong) for an availability bonus of 275%

so 75*4=300
times 1.4 for loyalty
times 2 for defender bonus
times 21 for lvl bonus
times 1.42 for trade route
times 3.75 for richness

equals 9 3, 9 3 3

trying to figure out what your calculator is missing.

Edit: production number just showed up as a dash for some reason

Author:  KJReed [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking of making something for myself...

.

Author:  Tree7304 [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking of making something for myself...

According to the wiki, you need 26 production points to make it to 4x mega
A lvl 5 base would only have 25 points hence the 250% bonus being used.

Author:  KJReed [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:17 pm ]
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Tree7304 wrote:
According to the wiki, you need 26 production points to make it to 4x mega
A lvl 5 base would only have 25 points hence the 250% bonus being used.

87670.8 then.

Author:  Tree7304 [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking of making something for myself...

It is production modules * other bonuses * availability * trade pact = total base production

production modules = 4*75 = 300
other bonuses = [(20 + 1) * ( 0.4 + 1) * ( 100/100 + 1)] -1 = 57.8
base level bonus
loyalty bonus
base defender bonus
availability = 250/100 + 1 = 3.5
trade pact = 20*0.02 + 0.02 + 1 = 1.42

300*57.8*3.5*1.42 = 86179.8

Author:  KJReed [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Thinking of making something for myself...

Whats the negative one for in other bonuses?

Author:  Tree7304 [ Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:55 pm ]
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KJReed wrote:
Whats the negative one for in other bonuses?

I honestly don't know :oops:
It works though for the several legions I have tested it with

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