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I heard that the 7% bonus invasion attack applies only for invasion attack. The bonus's from Psionic Amplifiers, Lazuli Controllers, stryll pathogen etc.

If this is true, is it really worth anything? same goes with Kulgox Octal Sac..


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Your "invasion attack" is a combination of your ships base attack + all your added invasion attack from items. In other words the two 7% multipliers can result in thousands of extra invasion attack at higher levels pretty easily. So they are far from useless.

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I heard that the 7% bonus invasion attack applies only for invasion attack. The bonus's from Psionic Amplifiers, Lazuli Controllers, stryll pathogen etc.

If this is true, is it really worth anything? same goes with Kulgox Octal Sac..


Its a permanent boost for invasions. You can have two installed at the same time.

It tells you in the description that they're invasion attack only.

If i have 10k attack, then i have 11499 after the decimators.

If i have 35k attack, then i have 40071 after the decimators.

They are bloody well worth it imo. What people have to remember is that these kind of ship modules get stronger with your ship, they're not fixed attack increases.


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They give a boost to all of your attack including Psionic Amplifiers, Lazuli Controllers, Stryll Pathogens and Kuglox sacs but only when you invade a planet.


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Does it act just like the other attack modifiers?

Like 5k attack * 1.1 for Crimson Obelisk = 5,500
5,500 *1.07 for Decimator = 5,885

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Does it act just like the other attack modifiers?

Like 5k attack * 1.1 for Crimson Obelisk = 5,500
5,500 *1.07 for Decimator = 5,885


Yes but at the end.

I believe (and trust me, someone will point out if I am wrong), invasion attack is:

{(Ship attack * attack buffs)+Invasion Attack}*(Invasion % Buffs)


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Yes but at the end.

I believe (and trust me, someone will point out if I am wrong), invasion attack is:

{(Ship attack * attack buffs)+Invasion Attack}*(Invasion % Buffs)


You are wrong

it is (Ship attack + Invasion Attack) X all buffs that affect attack (including invasion buffs) done in sequence

Atnospheric Decimators are a highly worthwhile addition- if you like to save ship space and have cargo space- just leave em off till you need to invade

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Yes but at the end.

I believe (and trust me, someone will point out if I am wrong), invasion attack is:

{(Ship attack * attack buffs)+Invasion Attack}*(Invasion % Buffs)


You are wrong

it is (Ship attack + Invasion Attack) X all buffs that affect attack (including invasion buffs) done in sequence

Atnospheric Decimators are a highly worthwhile addition- if you like to save ship space and have cargo space- just leave em off till you need to invade


Sorry, Fab... ODragon is correct. Total Invasion attack = [ (Standard Attack * Standard Buffs) + Invasion Attack(*1.2 if Konqul) ] * 1.07^d Where d = no. of Decimators. I've got a spreadsheet set up for calculating my invasion chances and it is completely accurate with that formula.

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So is it really worth 14 green badges? Does it make a difference in a planet invasion attack?


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Darth Flagitious wrote:

Sorry, Fab... ODragon is correct. Total Invasion attack = [ (Standard Attack * Standard Buffs) + Invasion Attack(*1.2 if Konqul) ] * 1.07^d Where d = no. of Decimators. I've got a spreadsheet set up for calculating my invasion chances and it is completely accurate with that formula.



Never mind, it is worth it, the "standard attack" includes konqul bonus right?


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So is it really worth 14 green badges? Does it make a difference in a planet invasion attack?


My estimated invasion attack with the 3 red buffs and NO decimators = ~24.3k
My estimated invasion attack with the 3 red buffs and 2 decimators = ~27.8k

Difference = ~3500 which counter-balances roughly 1 additional Obviation Barrier.

EDIT: Standard attack is what shows on your ship tab. Which if you are Konqul, that +20% is included.

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Very nice darth! I need to start taking planets Green Badges: 7 So i need 7 more thats a week if i wasto take a planet every day but 1 problem i have no slots!

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Very nice darth! I need to start taking planets Green Badges: 7 So i need 7 more thats a week if i wasto take a planet every day but 1 problem i have no slots!

Yes but don't just take planets for the greens, make sure they're good ones as well.


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Very nice darth! I need to start taking planets Green Badges: 7 So i need 7 more thats a week if i wasto take a planet every day but 1 problem i have no slots!

Yes but don't just take planets for the greens, make sure they're good ones as well.

or if it's a football... they work too.

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i wouldnt take rubbish planets my goal is 4k arti by lv 200 so only arti for me

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Xzien wrote:
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Very nice darth! I need to start taking planets Green Badges: 7 So i need 7 more thats a week if i wasto take a planet every day but 1 problem i have no slots!

Yes but don't just take planets for the greens, make sure they're good ones as well.

or if it's a football... they work too.

football is a great way to get green badges as long as you don't mind the fact you might have to hold the planet for awhile.


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Or you know, you could sorta...just maybe....earn the greens instead of passing a football around?

Exotica is being thrown around just like a football, but cause it's got a medal attached to it, that's in bad taste huh??

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Or you know, you could sorta...just maybe....earn the greens instead of passing a football around?

Exotica is being thrown around just like a football, but cause it's got a medal attached to it, that's in bad taste huh??


Hmm. Contested Dyson called Dysonia?

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i wouldnt take rubbish planets my goal is 4k arti by lv 200 so only arti for me

Good luck with that, just don't forget, although arti is the most important, research and mining are still pretty important as well, especially at low ranks.


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KxG Ryoko wrote:
Or you know, you could sorta...just maybe....earn the greens instead of passing a football around?

Exotica is being thrown around just like a football, but cause it's got a medal attached to it, that's in bad taste huh??

Hey in my defence I have no problem with what they're doing with Exotica, something I have stated in numerous threads on the matter.


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