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Author:  StolenPlanet [ Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Three Days of Fighting Data-- Why You Should Hit Back

With all the talk about multi hacking and raiding (which has always been around, but seems to have drawn more complaints with the medal system), I thought I would be super anal and run an experiment. I decided to pick a single target and track the numbers for a bit. Before I give you the tally, let me tell you my goals and my disclaimers.

Goals

1. To encourage players to fight back. There is no reason to be afraid of anyone. There are lots of reasons to be smart and tactical about your play; but zero reasons to fear any ship.

2. To show you, step by step, more tricks of the trade. You don't have to love Pvp like me, but it is still good to have a better grasp of the strategies involved.

3. To remind you to have fun. It is a game.

Disclaimers

1. This is not intended to flame or embarrass Krauzen or the Dysonians. It is just following the math of the experiment.

2. This is not intended to brag or prove how good I am. It is just following the math of the experiment.

3. This is not intended to be a complete picture between me vs Krauzen. It fails to take into account all the fighting over the last 2 years. It fails to take into account previous raids, hacks, disables, or planets stolen. This only as snap shot of the last few "days." It is just following the math the experiment.

4. This is not intended to be a complete picture of me vs other Dysonian ships. Several players, like XxBlitzxX, are well ahead of me on ALL the numbers count. This data fails to show that info. It is just following the math the experiment.

5. This is not intended to be a complete picture of all my actions either. I still regularly shoot random ships from the battle tab and hunt all CN ships since we are at war. I spend my energy and TMs in a number of ways. It is just following the math of the experiment.

6. This is not intended to reflect consecutive days. Let me stress that point again. I am making no claim that these "days" were directly back to back. Sometimes there was a day or two between my attack and Krauzen's response and vise versa (but they are all within the same week). Krauzen was selected for the subject of the experiment for one reason; we are both on the kill’s board. We can't escape each other. We can't wait 2 days and fall off the enemy log. Likewise, we can't halc up and hide forever; perhaps as a temporary tactical manuver, but not forever. If an action is made by one, a reply is certain by the other. Whether sooner or later, it is inevitable. This is what I mean by "days." It is just following the math of the experiment.
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On Day One, I was already disabled. Krauzen showed up, TM's in hand, and did the following:

41 mins ago From: Krauzen1997 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
41 mins ago From: Krauzen1229 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
41 mins ago From: Krauzen1201 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
41 mins ago From: Krauzen1468 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
41 mins ago From: Krauzen1265 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[7,160]

41 mins ago From: Krauzen1234 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
42 mins ago From: Krauzen631 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
42 mins ago From: Krauzen841 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
42 mins ago From: Krauzen877 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
42 mins ago From: Krauzen1385 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
42 mins ago From: Krauzen1962 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[14,090]

42 mins ago From: Krauzen931 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
42 mins ago From: Krauzen1143 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
42 mins ago From: Krauzen1097 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
42 mins ago From: Krauzen948 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
42 mins ago From: Krauzen1044 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
42 mins ago From: Krauzen1152 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[20,405]

43 mins ago From: Krauzen1564 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
43 mins ago From: Krauzen1154 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
43 mins ago From: Krauzen1566 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
43 mins ago From: Krauzen1210 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
43 mins ago From: Krauzen1343 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
43 mins ago From: Krauzen1736 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[28,978]

43 mins ago From: Krauzen606 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
43 mins ago From: Krauzen1568 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
43 mins ago From: Krauzen1424 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
44 mins ago From: Krauzen1656 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
44 mins ago From: Krauzen1256 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
44 mins ago From: Krauzen1475 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[36,963]

44 mins ago From: Krauzen 925 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
44 mins ago From: Krauzen1303 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
44 mins ago From: Krauzen517 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
44 mins ago From: Krauzen1859 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
44 mins ago From: Krauzen843 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
44 mins ago From: Krauzen596 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[43,006]

44 mins ago From: - Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
45 mins ago From: Krauzen784 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
45 mins ago From: Krauzen1661 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
45 mins ago From: Krauzen1693 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
45 mins ago From: Krauzen1797 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[49,838]

----45 mins ago From: Krauzen1319 Mineral Units were stolen from you by Krauzen

45 mins ago From: Krauzen519 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
45 mins ago From: KrauzenKrauzen failed to hack into your ship computer. You counter-hack and steal 999 Research Points!
45 mins ago From: Krauzen1928 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
45 mins ago From: Krauzen1086 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
45 mins ago From: Krauzen830 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
46 mins ago From: Krauzen1699 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[55,900]

----46 mins ago From: Krauzen567 Artifact Points were stolen from you by Krauzen
46 mins ago From: Krauzen624 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
46 mins ago From: KrauzenKrauzen hacked you and set off your Quantum Firewall Trap!
46 mins ago From: Krauzen884 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
47 mins ago From: KrauzenKrauzen has struck your ship with a quantum flare, reducing your scan ability for a short time.View Your Ship

57,408 Research Stolen minus the counter hack of 999=
56,409 Research Lost
567 Artifacts Lost
1,319 Minerals Lost


All this is Krauzen's day one. Good use of the 25 TMs back to back as the new consecutive day rolls over.

Since it is easy to copy and paste Krauzen actions (because they are in my log), I posted them completely. However, my actions back toward him only show up in his log. Therefore, to keep track of how much I did to him, I could either copy each individual hack, raid (which was too anal even for me). Or, I could empty my resources and see where I stood at the end of my attack run (plus this allowed the game to do the math for me). I used 50 TM's. Here is the summary of my reply.


13,752 research- this includes one failed critical hack
clear resources
19,515 research
clear resources
25,847 research
clear resources

Raid Successful. You steal 800 Artifact Poinsts from the enemy!
Raid Successful. You steal 767 Artifact Points from the enemy!
Raid Successful. You steal 1561 Artifact Points from the enemy!
I stole a total of 59,114 research in reply.
I stole a total of 3,128 artifacts in reply.


[size=150]++END RESULT OF FIGHTING DAY 1

I got all of my research back.
I am ahead by 2,705 research.
Likewise, I am ahead by 2,561 artifacts.
I am behind by 1,19 minerals
Added bonus, since I was already down
when he TM me, I am ahead 1 kill shot to 0.
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Day Two
(notice already the time difference between his attack as noted in my log, and my reply)

1 day ago From: Krauzen635 Mineral Units were stolen from you by Krauzen

1 day ago From: Krauzen1105 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1585 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1141 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1570 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1445 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1176 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen2009 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[10,031]

1 day ago From: Krauzen1824 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1860 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1045 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1544 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1885 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1440 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[19,629]

1 day ago From: Krauzen1151 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1567 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1826 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1008 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1618 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen657 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[27,456]

1 day ago From: Krauzen907 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1061 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1830 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: Krauzen1709 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
1 day ago From: KrauzenKrauzen hacked you and set off your Quantum Firewall Trap!
1 day ago From: Krauzen1029 Research Points were hacked and stolen from your database by Krauzen
[33,992]

33,922 Research Lost
635 Minerals Lost


All this is Krauzen's day two. Good use of the 25 TMs back to back as the new consecutive day rolls over.

I decided to be extra anal after all. I figured someone might complain I was making up my data. I also wanted to see how much more time it would take for me to copy/paste each one of my success messages. Keep in mind, the limited 15 minute window (timer on the flares) to get the job done.

Hack Successful. You steal 1659 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1603 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Failed!! Enemy managed to steal 1016 Research Points from your database!
Hack Successful. You steal 1223 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1180 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 605 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 806 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 910 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 2002 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1793 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1616 Research Points from the enemy database
[12,381]

Hack Successful. You steal 1363 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 905 Research Points from the enemy database
[/color]Hack Successful. You steal 1774 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 871 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1736 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1309 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1115 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 613 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Failed!! Enemy managed to steal 1016 Research Points from your database!
[8,670]

Hack Successful. You steal 523 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1087 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 735 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1222 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1270 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1801 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 838 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 976 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1448 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Failed!! Enemy managed to steal 1016 Research Points from your database!
[8,884]

Hack Successful. You steal 662 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 900 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 970 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1831 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1413 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 1427 Research Points from the enemy database
Hack Successful. You steal 697 Research Points from the enemy database
[7,900]


I stole 37,835 research in reply.
All raids failed.


++END RESULT OF FIGHTING DAY 2

I got all of my research back.
I am ahead by 3,913 research (ahead 6,618 research overall).
There was no change in the artifact count. (ahead 2,561 artifacts overall) .
I am behind by 635 minerals (behind 1965 minerasl overall).
I was up when he started his attack run; thus he got the disable.
He was down when I started my reply. This makes the kill count a draw 1-1.

Author:  StolenPlanet [ Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Three Days of Fighting Data-- Why You Should Hit Back

My conclusion after just a few days (though he and I have been doing this for years) has two parts.

First, hit back. If you plan your attack right, you can recover what you lost. Making it a draw.
Second, we have juiced each other's stats. bhahaha. Since there was no real loss of resources, all we have effectively done is padded the ship counts.

Author:  Rambojr [ Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Three Days of Fighting Data-- Why You Should Hit Back

StolenPlanet wrote:
My conclusion after just a few days (though he and I have been doing this for years) has two parts.

First, hit back. If you plan your attack right, you can recover what you lost. Making it a draw.
Second, we have juiced each other's stats. bhahaha. Since there was no real loss of resources, all we have effectively done is padded the ship counts.



Cool..

Good points... I guess you two are also working on ur hack medals over all..Hopefully one of you two would critically scan a nice planet..

Good luck to both of you..

Author:  StolenPlanet [ Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Three Days of Fighting Data-- Why You Should Hit Back

Rambojr wrote:
StolenPlanet wrote:
My conclusion after just a few days (though he and I have been doing this for years) has two parts.

First, hit back. If you plan your attack right, you can recover what you lost. Making it a draw.
Second, we have juiced each other's stats. bhahaha. Since there was no real loss of resources, all we have effectively done is padded the ship counts.



Cool..

Good points... I guess you two are also working on ur hack medals over all..Hopefully one of you two would critically scan a nice planet..

Good luck to both of you..


Oh we have done that to each other a bunch of times. I think I have found more overall, but he is the only one with a successful invasion. It was just a large rich (undefended and probably even uncloaked), but still, I give him the edge in the planet count. 1-0 Kz.

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