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Yesterday a member of my legion was disabled, hacked 5 times and raided 5 times, all of no fault of his own. The legion that attacked him averages about the level of our strongest member (with their strongest being 80 levels higher) and they have about 5 times the number of members. Any suggestions as to an appropriate response?

(note that I am willing to take hits for my legion)

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Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:32 pm
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I would try to ally your self with another legion that you know. Maybe together you can fight them back. If they are that much higher you do not stand much of a chance by your self. This is why this new system is awesome. It allows making friends in other legions that much better for you and your legion so you can call for help in the time of need. Not only that but it allows you to have a diplomatic approach to things in game.

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Teach your player about cloak

The Browncoats have a general policy of missions and npc but in the event of one our fleet being attacked I take the alert and deal what punishment I can in return I don't have the strongest ship in our fleet by far but I wont stand for our lower ranks being abused ,

I recently invited a player in a legion of 2 with 50% active to join our fleet I was attacked for my efforts , I fired back by disabling hacking and raiding the offender who was 14 levels higher than I am till I got a critical hack then took a juicey planet as well .

did I over react I dont think so its a dangerous galaxy if I offer sanctuary and then get smacked I smack back .

2 days ago one our level 21 fleet members was attacked by a level 34 player I took alert and disabled then hacked 5 times he obviously alerted his fleet and between himself and a level 25 they disabled and hacked me , but my point was made shall I continue to escalate and now disable them both tonight and hack them all night .... no Ill slip off under cloak and see what happens

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He knows about cloak. I can see it on his ship. The problem is the overkill, not the kill.

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Well hmmm I'd say lay the smack down on him but you can expect to get nailed by there fleet if you do

just curious what was the in game name of the offender ? pm the answer to me if you want

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zophah wrote:
Yesterday a member of my legion was disabled, hacked 5 times and raided 5 times, all of no fault of his own. The legion that attacked him averages about the level of our strongest member (with their strongest being 80 levels higher) and they have about 5 times the number of members. Any suggestions as to an appropriate response?

(note that I am willing to take hits for my legion)


well its unlikely that he was totally innocent because the player prob had an alert. BUT... if you need help from farming tell me the name of the legion and PA will look for them in the battle tab.

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As I talked with my member, he realized it was because he took one of their ice planets. The only reason why he didn't know this sooner is because they chose to attack him instead of the planet.

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As I talked with my member, he realized it was because he took one of their ice planets. The only reason why he didn't know this sooner is because they chose to attack him instead of the planet.


Naturally. If he's guarding the planet he's still on the person's battle tab for taking the planet and they can target him directly. Once he's dissabled his ships stats no longer are added to the planets defense and makes it much easier to take the planet back. A simple legion share made it so his legion attacked the offender, leaving him with enough energy to take the planet back.


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New problem but just as prevalent:
I have responded to a legion alert against a legion much more powerful than me. I clearly outmatched my opponent, even with hitting a Krionus Virus Trap and then being a few levels above me. After I disbaled and raided the opponent once I posted on their comm "Legion alert." Next thing I know I was attacked by 3 players all over 210, hit by five artifacts, and disbaled twice (in the future, I do not want to be repaired).

So my problem now is similar but in reverse. Is disabling a player when it was clearly their fault (the original alert was against a player with "disable 12, raid 15, hack 15" meaning they clearly were being violent) worthy of taking me down with members over twice my level? (again, they had to fight through 5 traps)

Update: I got hacked and disabled again. this time one of the two attackers was over level 300. This is getting ridiculous.

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Yep welcome to the galaxy.


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Seriously Zophah, you're kidding right? I had a whole legion on me for days because of that. I'd tell you to read up the ol' 'he said' 'they said' thread war I had with them, but well, you have better ways of rotting your brain. The legion alert system is a cold-hearted tool. Unless the legion has some modicum of integrity or at least a sensible amount of internal communication, you'll find that people will take a peak at alerts and if they outrank you, they pretty much convince themselves that they're "doing right by their legion."

As it is, I rarely alert. Only the precious special few (you know who you are) get me to alert them. Otherwise, I save my alerts so my legionmates can help me defend the planets I steal...

Oh look! I just took another one! Party at my NEW PAD!!! WOOT!!

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So legion shares are either used by jerks :evil: and/or geniuses 8-) , as are those who respond to them. No wonder wars keep getting started...
And as an update on the incident, my comm messages have been responded to and their leadership is looking into it. Thinking it over again, I do realize that it can be all a misunderstanding, though I didn't need to be disabled 3 times.

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So legion shares are either used by jerks :evil: and/or geniuses 8-) , as are those who respond to them. No wonder wars keep getting started...
And as an update on the incident, my comm messages have been responded to and their leadership is looking into it. Thinking it over again, I do realize that it can be all a misunderstanding, though I didn't need to be disabled 3 times.

pfft stop being childish its not like that actually does something.

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On the balance, if you do something deserving like taking a planet, there isn't much anyone can do to you personally for more than a day or so. Only being able to attack/hack/disable you 15 times after invading a planet really is not fair to the person you
invaded from.

Dan, has already limited it so much that the higher players have substantially less to fight. Between traps and restrictions, there really is significantly less actual game play than 3 months ago. I go through my battle tab now and don't EVER find anyone with less than 2 traps on.

You may be the little guy now but we all were little at some point and we all went through it. When you get to a high level and realize that there isn't anyone you can attack without wasting all your energy and hitting a trap before you even finish, newbs look surprisingly fun.

The point in the game is to "Discover. Build. Conquer."

They discovered ways to make their ships better. They built a better legion. They conquered you.

Really the only choice you have is to quit whining and get over it or go play flag football.

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I'm not upset, I'm just complaining. I know at least I will be able to take it back and flux it (I have one for a rainy day :mrgreen: ) in a month or so after they finally realize that 20 artifact an hour on a extremely rich planet is worthless to them.

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Drake Oblivion wrote:
Seriously Zophah, you're kidding right? I had a whole legion on me for days because of that. I'd tell you to read up the ol' 'he said' 'they said' thread war I had with them, but well, you have better ways of rotting your brain. The legion alert system is a cold-hearted tool. Unless the legion has some modicum of integrity or at least a sensible amount of internal communication, you'll find that people will take a peak at alerts and if they outrank you, they pretty much convince themselves that they're "doing right by their legion."

As it is, I rarely alert. Only the precious special few (you know who you are) get me to alert them. Otherwise, I save my alerts so my legionmates can help me defend the planets I steal...

Oh look! I just took another one! Party at my NEW PAD!!! WOOT!!

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HAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOL

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Drake Oblivion wrote:
Seriously Zophah, you're kidding right? I had a whole legion on me for days because of that. I'd tell you to read up the ol' 'he said' 'they said' thread war I had with them, but well, you have better ways of rotting your brain. The legion alert system is a cold-hearted tool. Unless the legion has some modicum of integrity or at least a sensible amount of internal communication, you'll find that people will take a peak at alerts and if they outrank you, they pretty much convince themselves that they're "doing right by their legion."

As it is, I rarely alert. Only the precious special few (you know who you are) get me to alert them. Otherwise, I save my alerts so my legionmates can help me defend the planets I steal...

Oh look! I just took another one! Party at my NEW PAD!!! WOOT!!

~ Drake


HAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOL

Your the LAST person on this forum in the last legion in the game that can talk about integrity.

Says a NOVA member.

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Drake Oblivion wrote:
Seriously Zophah, you're kidding right? I had a whole legion on me for days because of that. I'd tell you to read up the ol' 'he said' 'they said' thread war I had with them, but well, you have better ways of rotting your brain. The legion alert system is a cold-hearted tool. Unless the legion has some modicum of integrity or at least a sensible amount of internal communication, you'll find that people will take a peak at alerts and if they outrank you, they pretty much convince themselves that they're "doing right by their legion."

As it is, I rarely alert. Only the precious special few (you know who you are) get me to alert them. Otherwise, I save my alerts so my legionmates can help me defend the planets I steal...

Oh look! I just took another one! Party at my NEW PAD!!! WOOT!!

~ Drake


HAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOL

Your the LAST person on this forum in the last legion in the game that can talk about integrity.

Says a NOVA member.


Coming from a PA member.


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Coming from a PA member.

You mean Leader, we have our integrity, but its personal. Our legion itself does not have one, so to say im a PA member means nothing. NOVA on the other hand told me what its integrates would be, NOVA though has not lived up to this.

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Nova has MORE than lived up to this. It was YOUR dog Hunterx that first broke the ceasefire within an hour of it being established. And as for integrity, you have a bunch of little whiney brats that spew asinine crap all over players comms then duck and hide behind Maudib, Hunterx and Soozerama when they start getting their asses handed to them. You guys cried for months about how much of a bully DOO was, yet your guilty of everything you accused DOO of. Your the biggest hypocrites on here.


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