I tend to put some cloak and def on my planets and work to max out my passives ... but even with legion bonuses I'm concerned that both together just aren't enough to really protect my planets.

In the end I usually end up with about 5k def and 3200 clock on each planet ... I don't think this is enough of either, but is there a better way to go? Sacrificing one inverse cloak sat would gain an additional 3600 def and bring the total def to 12k and only about 1600 cloak, but if I forgo cloaking completely I can get def up to 21600 (9 total obs barriers plus legion bonus).

Is there a best way to go here?

Best defense is being invisible. Even with 20k or more defense, if a top legion gets hold of the scan and it's something they'd like to have... Consider it gone. Right now, 19k cloak is 100% effective in making planets invisible from scans. 15k would be sufficient to block at least 95%. Only a relative handful of players can get that high of a scan number and even then there is the number of planets in the galaxy to consider.

How do you get 15k cloak on a planet? Assuming legion bonuses would make up for half of that 7500 cloak is tough to get on a planet ... 4 Inverse Flux Sats would only be 3200 and take up a whopping 28 spaces on a planet. Anything less than VM just can't afford to lose that much space. I guess that's why everyone says that anything less than Massive is a pointless planet.

I guess, if you went with 3200 plus passives you'd get to about 6500 ... where would you make up the other 1k?

You have the passives plus there are a bunch of planet structures that add little bits of cloak plus production. Granted, some of the stuff is limited like Ergospheres and such, but realistically you're only going to want to "ubercloak" your very best planets. Even if you can manage to get to 12k you're going to be pretty safe.

According to the Battle Tab artifacts you can get a Magnetosphere Charger which will allow you to up to 3500 to your passives ... so 2100 from Fab Planets, then bumped to 3500 from Magno Chargers plus the Inverse Sats would get you 6700 cloak, plus legion bonus would take you to ~ 13k.

28 space is a lot to give up, but it makes sense that in the long run you will keep your planets longer that way.

Thank you for the information.

this is useful
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19405

Passive cloak from Interspatial Fold Generators goes to 3100. 2x Resonance Inhibitor (from the CTLab) is 500 and an Isolation Bureau (also from the Lab) on an unscanned planet is 400. 2x Spy Uplink (80 total) and a Silthion Vesicle (150). That's 1130 cloak, 1000 invasion defense, 2 mining, 2 artifact, 6 research for 7 spaces. Total so far is 4230 before legion bonus.

@Romanoid: Thank you, lots of good information in that thread.

@DarthFlagitious: Basically, it comes down to a *lot* of Fab Plants. Too bad, I think the overall game would be ebtter served by a CT lab Arti ... thou if you do a lot of NPCing like I do they will come with time and could be replaced with Magno Chargers if you end up with a lot of Dark Badges (and I constantly have a bunch of those.

I picked up a planet with a stealth screen. Not a great planet, but thats where my terraformers are going. Make it nice and have a great cloak boost passivly