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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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At rank 114 I have:
688 minerals 1501 artifacts 1251 research
Today I was told that all my productions were WAY too low for my rank. Just wondering what some others think.
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:38 pm |
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howesy
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:40 pm Posts: 3100 Location: Zolazin Prime
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yep, you need more research.
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:39 pm |
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spyder
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1543
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What buildings do you have, and what rank? I may be able to back-work something out from my stats (that I hope are average).
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:41 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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strm avenger wrote: At rank 114 I have:
688 minerals 1501 artifacts 1251 research
Today I was told that all my productions were WAY too low for my rank. Just wondering what some others think. +8, but only artifacts have been upgraded.
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:42 pm |
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thunderbolta
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:01 am Posts: 5825 Location: Zolar
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spyder wrote: What buildings do you have, and what rank? I may be able to back-work something out from my stats (that I hope are average). As you NPC more and more and get more kills:rank your production grows faster. Just saying.
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:44 pm |
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spyder
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1543
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Same as me for structures then (upgrade progress)
1500 RP 1000 MP 1250 AP
Is what I'd expect. That's 1/2 my productions, rounded down, and given a bit of leeway (for structural difference)
My AP is lacking. Badly. But I have 5 empty slots. I'd say get your research up, and maybe get 1 or 2 more mining planets. Upkeep WILL start hitting you hard and fast, especially as you upgrade weapons and hull (essential for PvP)
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:49 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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I don't have any 16x Toxics... But upkeep, for now, is bareable. Antiprotons will be a step up, but not even starting to be a concern. Nulls/Fermionic are not on my "to do" list. Raising my RP?  Well. I will, the moment I have some storage structures... I face a 16+ hour cap restriction (ie. I'm away for 16 hours)
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Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:04 pm |
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destroyer43
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:01 pm Posts: 2072
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when I saw your MP, I was like... hmmmm... slow ranker, WITH ONLY THAT MUCH MINERAL PRODUCTION?! your minerals is severely lacking, you need to get that up before you focus on research. if you don't have any viable mining planets to take, try NPCing for a month or two and hope for some blade harvesters.
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Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:54 am |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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strm avenger wrote: At rank 114 I have:
688 minerals 1501 artifacts 1251 research
Today I was told that all my productions were WAY too low for my rank. Just wondering what some others think. Now at 124 I have: 1085 Mining 1687 Artifact 1514 Research What to work on now? EDIT: Quick note: My mining cap is actually higher than my artifact cap. Just sayin'.
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Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:39 pm |
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n00b
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:06 pm Posts: 226
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ur stats / income ratios were very similar to mine  . though i am still at lv 5 structures. rank 109 Minerals 604 units / hour Artifacts 1740 points / hour Research 1253 / hour i know upkeep becomes quite expensive later on but i been able to manage keep my self aflot with art trading. how long can i keep doing that without increasing my mining? any ideas on what level that might be or what tech level?
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:28 am |
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Bluecifer
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:53 pm Posts: 3756 Location: Aboard my floating fortress of ineptitude
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n00b wrote: ur stats / income ratios were very similar to mine  . though i am still at lv 5 structures. rank 109 Minerals 604 units / hour Artifacts 1740 points / hour Research 1253 / hour i know upkeep becomes quite expensive later on but i been able to manage keep my self aflot with art trading. how long can i keep doing that without increasing my mining? any ideas on what level that might be or what tech level? Well, that IS technically thread-jacking, as this is Strm's thread, but it's a valid question. Antiprotons Dark Energy Neutronium Plating Those are the max you could probably get away with. but by then, you should definitely have more mining
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:08 am |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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n00b wrote: ur stats / income ratios were very similar to mine  . though i am still at lv 5 structures. rank 109 Minerals 604 units / hour Artifacts 1740 points / hour Research 1253 / hour i know upkeep becomes quite expensive later on but i been able to manage keep my self aflot with art trading. how long can i keep doing that without increasing my mining? any ideas on what level that might be or what tech level? I comfortably keep up with 8x antiprotons, 5x Neutronium Hull, 1x Dark Energy on my mining alone. My upkeep is 200M/day, so if you can make that via trading, go ahead. After that it gets way too expensive though. I'm going to get +10 structures before I do any ship upgrades, except perhaps Trans-Temporal Arrays, as I'll only be running 1 for now.
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:18 am |
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Bluecifer
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:53 pm Posts: 3756 Location: Aboard my floating fortress of ineptitude
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+10's are horribly expensive. I make around 1b a day, after upkeep, and am struggling to upgrade all my planets
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:18 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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I know. I'm going to do alot of trading, get some help from friends and I'll be fine.  It'll be worth it, I think.
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:07 pm |
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MitchellN
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:44 pm Posts: 1582 Location: Western Australia, Australia
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strm avenger wrote: I know. I'm going to do alot of trading, get some help from friends and I'll be fine.  It'll be worth it, I think. Don't come to me 
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:21 pm |
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spyder
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1543
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My honest advice would be to take a small break from PvP - just a week or two - and get killing NPCs. Several reasons: Blade harvesters will help mining. Lab pods will help research. Terraformers will help everything There are lots of weapon modules which are NPC drops (ion pulse things) Elites drop good stuff (dark smugglers caches) Dark badges will give you weapons and defence, and planet structures (and believe me, the Assassins get super difficult after rank 200). Also, passive bonuses will let you convert more planet space to production rather than defences.
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:31 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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Heard that. Several times. To NPC with any degree of success in finding anything I would need more energy, more energy=screw up my ranking
Think about it... I have 400 energy... that's 80 hits... or 20 NPC at absolute best... Harvesters are 1:250, T.O. 1:400, not sure on labpods.
My point is, I would be lucky to find 1 a week...
I have all the elite modules except drannik cores right now (which I do want) that I can see the NPC for. Don't think I'm high enough for the Ballistae. I wouldn't even get close to killing enough assassins to get ANYTHING - possibly not even the decoy.
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:38 pm |
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romanoid
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:14 pm Posts: 516
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strm avenger wrote: Heard that. Several times. To NPC with any degree of success in finding anything I would need more energy, more energy=screw up my ranking
Think about it... I have 400 energy... that's 80 hits... or 20 NPC at absolute best... Harvesters are 1:250, T.O. 1:400, not sure on labpods.
My point is, I would be lucky to find 1 a week...
I have all the elite modules except drannik cores right now (which I do want) that I can see the NPC for. Don't think I'm high enough for the Ballistae. I wouldn't even get close to killing enough assassins to get ANYTHING - possibly not even the decoy. drannik drops are in all rank ranges... starting with rank 75 (if not lower), just ask around if you are not perma-stuck in legion if you have decently build ship +/-20 ranks will not hurt you,but it will increase your in come and research speed 20ranks=5planets if they are decent its 500 goodnes points/h (at your rank,due to lack of +12's/+10's) decent metalics are pretty safe bet, they usually have same output on research and mining,so you can swap back and forth depending on needs and you have decent income from multiresource artis like: Processing Core Chassis Relay Tower Chassis Refining Lab Chassis Warp Gate Chassis (standard ones)
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:31 pm |
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strm avenger
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:41 pm Posts: 2369 Location: You don't wanna know...
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Yes. I know Drannik starts at 60 with Akkiren. I have one of the cores. It's the ballistae I can't see. Akkiren are few and far between so I'll probably wait for Okkilor which is more common as more people are able to see it.
And yes. I know that 5 more planets would boost my income by 600 or so.
Fact is, I don't find NPC all that interesting compared to PvP and jumping 20 ranks is not on my "to do" list. I'd rather stay back and reach 1k decks by 150 (would put me at 950) if I jumped all them ranks.
Assassins, Warpers and Rogue Tech Collectors are all #$&*@... :/ Why, oh, why did Dan have to cloak all them nice NPCs? :/
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Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:54 pm |
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Bluecifer
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:53 pm Posts: 3756 Location: Aboard my floating fortress of ineptitude
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strm avenger wrote: Yes. I know Drannik starts at 60 with Akkiren. I have one of the cores. It's the ballistae I can't see. Akkiren are few and far between so I'll probably wait for Okkilor which is more common as more people are able to see it.
And yes. I know that 5 more planets would boost my income by 600 or so.
Fact is, I don't find NPC all that interesting compared to PvP and jumping 20 ranks is not on my "to do" list. I'd rather stay back and reach 1k decks by 150 (would put me at 950) if I jumped all them ranks.
Assassins, Warpers and Rogue Tech Collectors are all #$&*@... :/ Why, oh, why did Dan have to cloak all them nice NPCs? :/ Because some people (and by that, I mean Binary) were using a loophole to avoid them, and to powers-rank, which is something Dan is against.
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