Whats r/hr should i should at?

If you cap in 8 hours I would say you re doing fine.
Obviously this doesn't apply if you have a bunch of storage.

i cap in 10hrs with some storage

How often do you collect? Less than 10 hours apart then up that production

every couple hours or so

Once you have researched your planetary production buildings it would be a very good idea to just abandon all your research planets unless they are exceptionally good (and possibly even then).

If you fill every planet slot with artifact planets even if they are all crap you will be well ahead of other pvpers within a couple of months. Researched ship modules are pretty much the weapon of choice for people that ruin their ships.

(made some assumptions that you were a pvper and your approximate rank from your legion) Basically keep your ship skinny and be patient with research. Both research and mining have minimal value once you pass about rank 400 so don't try and beef it up or you will run out of slots for artifact planets.

Thanks....I'm starting the Talth chain (Already Kronyn) so I can upgrade arti planets... I think I'm going to up a bunch of gas' to 15x research and wait till I become Talth I'll upgrade those gases to 15x arti and turn them into 17x R and A Colassal Plasmas

IMO talthing up Gas planets is a waste of time. You have to go through all the crap resources to get to MR, and then like another 15 more uplifts to bring it to 15xMR, and in all that time you could have made 2 VL 15xMR terras or so, I think that's a much better use of Talth.

My research caps in 4 hours and I have 3 maxed vault planets... I gave up a long time ago.

Why would you uplift two stats on the same planet? In the time and effort to do that you would have the output of half a 17x R and half a 15x A instead of a the full production of one of each. ( unless you're trying to get extra AP or RP from the 1/1/1 structures which will still be minimal. Looking at my mission exotic I get a whopping 320 rph which get tossed out every night while I'm sleeping) And remember, upping your AP leads to more android scientists which leads to more rph.

Indeed if you really want to up the research on the planet better to just npc and get some PDO's for it might even get a very tf's to help the planets on their way as well.

so i should Talth terras, deserts etc?

Btw transforming a Gas to a Plasma only increases Research by two not art. If that Gas Planet has nothing special on it its a big waste.

if you really want to you can also do it to barrens, there are few artifact based barrens but they do exsit, and you can make them into massive oceans or sentient planets

for some reason, I disagrey with you.....


sure the max on this one is x20, and you can get more artifact production out of a Colosal x22 Gaia or Crystal, but basickly artifact x20 colosal Plasma planets cost you 0 GC's to make and you can make as many as you want as theire are no limit to how many Phasic Chain-Ionizer you can make in the TC lab

the price for a simular Gaia or crystal is 100 GC's for the 2 QSE's you need to get it to V masiv before you transform it

Yeah, definitely, just work on planets that will be the quickest to upgrade.

my question now is what would people pay more for?

depends on what you are comparig
if you look at planets where the owner have been willing to spendt 100 GC to buy 2 QSE's to increase it's size before transforming it
x22, Colosal Gaia, Crystal, sentinel or Mega Colosal Oceanic beat a x20 colosal Plasma planet every time

but if the owner didn't buy 2 QSE's.....
I prefere a x20 colosal Plasma planet to a Masiv x22 Gaia, Crystal, Sentinel

it's base production * 2 (development) * 8.5 (from x22) vs base production * 2 (development) * 8 (from x20)


The extre x2 on the Gaia/crystal only gives you +100% of the base production (if you have 50 base production on planet that's +50 AP pr hour * boosts)
on the Colosal Plasma you can use the extra 12 spaces to increase the base production and add defence/cloak
if you can get 8 points of extra artifact production, it looks something like this

50 (base production) * 2 (development) * 8.5 (from x22) = 850 units pr hour (on the x22 masiv gaia/crystal)
vs
58 (base production + 8) * 2 (development) * 8 (from x20) = 928 units pr hour (on the x20 Colosal Plasma)


(base production on the planet I posted is 58 artifact / 66 Recearch, but you can substitute the numbers with the base production you normaly have on your planets)
so in my book, if you dont want to pay 100 GC's to increase the size of a Teran/desert planet before you tereform it, the extra time it takes to boost a Plasma planet to x15 is quite worth it for the extra space they give you to build on

so I would defently pay more for a Colosal x20 Plasma planet then I would for a x22 Masiv gaia/crystal Planet

thanks... that post was actually really helpful

365 days= 8760

which assuming perfect timing = 219 uses per year

14.6 VL terra with a base of mega rich which is not hard to find

8.76 plasma assuming no Artifact production.

so while the plasma's maybe offer slightly more production if you want outright production they are not the best.