THAT was uncalled for ??

How about rather than shutting Going Merry down we get to hear what one of the most experienced slow / freeze rankers in the game has to say about slow / freeze ranking?

Come back E... we won't bite... anymore.

hahaha

I do not see how any of that will be helped by slow ranking. All you are doing is restricting your artifact income and artifact income is the only thing that will help get everything that you listed faster.

Maybe if it said 'at a lower rank' rather than faster?

I do get the point about being able to use rank points from prisoners, helmsmen and x-charge cells instead of adding more decks and installing mods to increase those stats (sort of extended that point but I figure it would have to apply to all), but it's really only worthwhile if you have a very high aph whilst you are slow/freeze ranking. Otherwise, you'll be freeze ranking way into the next decade before you had a decent ship.

Waiting for those planet mods that give +12 artifact will help increase artifact production. I'm actually doing the opposite of restricting my artifact income since I am gradually increasing my production to the max. I thought you already knew that scanning for better planets with good artifact production is good for increasing it. I'm not trying to get the things listed faster, since I'm trying to slowly gain them with the research I've done in conjunction with the scientists I'm getting from artifact productions. I'll explain how slow ranking allows medals. Slow/freeze ranking when ice fishing allows you to get your raiding and hacking medals out of the way before getting to higher ranks. I also forgot to mention that slow/freeze ranking allows you to grab collective theory lab discoveries mods with the artifacts you gained that help increase artifact production and make your ship stronger. The artifacts you gather from production can also prepare you for missions that require these artifacts at higher ranks. This allows you to make a profit in the GTC before ranking too high and increasing upkeep.

The point is, all you are talking about can be done by "not fast ranking", i.e. not investing in reactor etc. It's not really slow/freeze ranking which is a deliberate choice to essentially avoid exp gaining activities and waste energy on stuff like hacking or abilities etc. For the actions you describe, there is no advantage in practicing that act.

I'm not talking about what can be done. I'm talking about the outcomes of slow ranking. Hacking and raiding gives an advantage to those who seek medals to get special mods from the battle market that require medals. Medal hunters would disagree with you on this. I'm one of them.

And for those of you who says it's a waste of time, you say that because the people that you see that are at higher ranks are probably just beginning to slow rank in a weak state. If there are strong people at higher ranks who slow rank at a higher rank and be able to increase their production tenfold of what regular people who fast rank have, then they'll still be stronger than those who rank fast even though they're higher in rank.

Repeating this as you haven't read it when others said it. All the "advantages" you list happen for anyone playing well whether deliberately going slow or ranking whenever. As to your second paragraph, quit making up absurd scenarios to try and discredit your detractors. They disagree because they don't agree, not because of some tin cans.

And I disagree with you because I disagree with you. You got something against tin cans brahmate? Why don't you try elaborating why you hate them instead of bagging on little guys like me.

There are good players and there are bad players. Some of the good players slow rank and some of the good players fast rank. Same with the bad players. Please don't try to give merit to your choice by comparing the good players that slow rank to the bad players that fast rank.

I'm not bagging on you, just pointing out that you are ignoring what has been said and instead constructing some weird position which has nothing to do with the statements of those you disagree with, and that's what you then attack. The fact is you can disagree all you want, but while others are providing counter arguments that undermine your claims, you have not addressed their counter arguments at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y


QFT and to see if it sinks in after yet another restatement.

To Whatisthis: What are your thoughts on slow/freeze ranking? Lots of people have given their thoughts/opinions on the subject, but what are yours?

If you do it right then it can be a good thing. It's pretty pointless if you're not going to improve arti production while slow or freeze ranking. I'm slow ranking right now and slowly increasing my productions. I ranked too fast and my ship became too weak for my rank range but since I started slow ranking, I've become a lot stronger and it's paying off rather well.

So I guess if you're planning on increasing your arti production while doing it and you want to make your ship stronger in your rank range then yeah I'd say go for it!

Slow ranking is just as bad as speed ranking (power ranking) They both limit your ability to progress or achieve anything, So you can either rank at the normal paste, or speed rank and then become a tin can and need to slow rank just to become 'balanced'.

Freeze ranking is the WORST idea EVER, because if you are not ranking you are not even playing the game... Feel the need to do this and you might as well quit altogether!

oh yea forgot this was the other arguement that generally got thrown around.

to put it simply your are effectivly removing your self from "x" time line and then reentering "x" timeline at a different interval, you effectly put yourself on pause while moving forward, doing whatever it is you do, to achieve whatever it is you wanted to achieve. Could you do this while ranking normally of course you could, but could do you do it by say rank 600, dunno maybe, but if you free/slow ranked could you, sure why not.

and if you are basing later game goals around what you do prior or up to rank 600 ( yes im using me as example ) then ranking normally becomes arbitrary to you, as it is detrimental to what you want to have accomplished at "y" time on "x" timeline.

or you could just watch the end of this clip

or you could tell me and others that we are doing it wrong again, and then go "wow nice ______ for your level, congrats" later on, your choice.

Neither is inherently bad. It all depends on how and why it is done.


Not true, a slow/freeze ranker can out hack/raid most other ships, an auto-ranker can play constantly and gather more choice NPC drops than you can imagine.


And who defines "normal"?


Tin can is not necessarily a given for an autoranker.


I've seen many worse ideas. I've even done worse things.


Glad to see you've simplified the situation down to "Ranking = playing the game". Care to explain how that opinion of yours jives with your disdain for autoranking? Expanding on what I'm saying - there is a lot to do in the game, and a notable portion of it requires little or no XP (with legion missions it's much more than it was before). Someone that hacks, raids, does no XP legion missions and scans when they have purgers could be playing quite a lot.


Here's a thought, and this criticism is for the entire forums and also all those people who feel the need to comm other ships in game with unsolicited advice:

There is more than one way to play, and you don't need to understand other's motivations for them to be satisfied with how they play. Live and let live. If you have criticisms of their strategies not achieving their goals based on actual evidence, go ahead and share it. But this rhetoric that has built up around different play styles or ethics is worth about as much as a Neural Interface share.