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"Farming". Pretty sure that "Farming" is a content free slur hurled by players at anything they don't like.

Easiest way to fix that is to show them what farming really looks like when you're willing to put in the extra effort. ^_~

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ICBLF wrote:
"Farming". Pretty sure that "Farming" is a content free slur hurled by players at anything they don't like.

Grumpy Smurf wrote:
Smurfing". Pretty sure that "Smurfing" is a content free slur hurled by players at anything.

I love this smurfing new mission reward!
My wife's beef stew is smurfing awesome!
That smurfing smurfhole, if I see his smurfing hide on my smurfing BT again I'm gonna smurfing smurf their ship up and raid thesmurf out of their cargo hold.
Smurfing great weather we're having today!
Im tired of these mothersmurfing snakes on this mothersmurfing plane!
Smurf all the little children
Smurf U!
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good smurf!

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Merry Christmas to all and to all a good smurf!


It's trying to speak to us , what should we do ?
Oh,we have figured out it's method of speaking , it want's somethings this species doesn't have , but ours do ( Merry Christmas to and to all a good F*ck )


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SOOOOOO... whats allowed within the games rules and mechanics is good for EVERYONE ELSE. but not us at IF??? GFY

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I won't alert the 400 guy, I will do my best to disable him myself, though unlikely given he is 6 times my rank.


Just chuck a few (hundred) EMPs at him. The disable will be a piece of cake.

+10000000000000000000000000

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SOOOOOO... whats allowed within the games rules and mechanics is good for EVERYONE ELSE. but not us at IF??? GFY

haters gonna hate ;) you should be use to it by now lol

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That guy... he is how I want to be in life.

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SOOOOOO... whats allowed within the games rules and mechanics is good for EVERYONE ELSE. but not us at IF??? GFY

Wait, what? Is this directed at me at all?

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Oh I am doing all I can to disable the rank 400 er. I have little problem with getting disabled, the bulk of my disables are from legion alerts and high rankers hitting me. If anything the babying of lower rankers will hurt them, why not advise them on how to build a stronger ship so I won't be able to disable them??

I've found out that if only looking for badges, give two days or say between them, and if you act polite you can typically defuse an alert. If you badge (or just disable for any reason) more often than that (or, for some particularly idiotic legions, more than once a week), you can expect to be alerted very commonly.

So either give some time, or take your alerts.

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I've found out that if only looking for badges, give two days or say between them, and if you act polite you can typically defuse an alert. If you badge (or just disable for any reason) more often than that (or, for some particularly idiotic legions, more than once a week), you can expect to be alerted very commonly.

So either give some time, or take your alerts.

Part of what convinced me that "PVP Etiquette" was a non-starter is that I got whiny comms and alerts for badging some players more than once a week. If I'm already getting the maximum penalty for my theoretically acceptable actions, why not get maximum benefit for myself out of it and forego "polite" PVP? This is also why I'm more likely to zero whining players or players that alert me. They've escalated it that high, so I will respond at the same degree (though via a different medium).

The line between "badges only" and "all out" isn't much different as evidenced by my comm even today. Players that I have only badged (usually because I'm TM locked) complain as vocally and vitriolically as players that I have zerod:

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Notes for the above comms, at 1 day, 20 hours back I commed Harleychikka that I would be happy to explain things to someone that wanted to know, but that they had come at me with so much attitude right off the bat I knew they wouldn't listen. The response proved my point. The comm 21 hours ago from Mastif was after I single badged them. I had zeroed them (hacks or raids or both I'm not sure) three days previous, and answered their comm of "why" ("medal and leaderboards"). But apparently stepping down to a single badge they thought I was going to hit them more, so they use strong language to try and cut me down to size I guess. I asked why the anger over the single badge, and they explain that it's for the sum total of hits.

And that's the basic problem. If you PVP with regularity, ships get angrier the more they see your name. So one badge a week, one a day, triple badges every 12 hours, opportunistic zeroings, the fallout for me is the same in all those situations, it's just a matter of how quickly the "victims" escalate. And not that any of them are listening to this now, but calling me a bully and whatever other foul names you feel like pulling out do nothing to make me have sympathy on you or fear you and pass over your ships.

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They need to learn to halycon trap themselves if they're not interested in being badged.

My experience is if my trap activates, I won't show up on anyone else's bt until I log back on. Or I've just been very lucky that no one was interested in badging me until I am back.


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ICBLF wrote:
RigorMortis wrote:
I've found out that if only looking for badges, give two days or say between them, and if you act polite you can typically defuse an alert. If you badge (or just disable for any reason) more often than that (or, for some particularly idiotic legions, more than once a week), you can expect to be alerted very commonly.

So either give some time, or take your alerts.

Part of what convinced me that "PVP Etiquette" was a non-starter is that I got whiny comms and alerts for badging some players more than once a week. If I'm already getting the maximum penalty for my theoretically acceptable actions, why not get maximum benefit for myself out of it and forego "polite" PVP? This is also why I'm more likely to zero whining players or players that alert me. They've escalated it that high, so I will respond at the same degree (though via a different medium).

The line between "badges only" and "all out" isn't much different as evidenced by my comm even today. Players that I have only badged (usually because I'm TM locked) complain as vocally and vitriolically as players that I have zerod:

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Notes for the above comms, at 1 day, 20 hours back I commed Harleychikka that I would be happy to explain things to someone that wanted to know, but that they had come at me with so much attitude right off the bat I knew they wouldn't listen. The response proved my point. The comm 21 hours ago from Mastif was after I single badged them. I had zeroed them (hacks or raids or both I'm not sure) three days previous, and answered their comm of "why" ("medal and leaderboards"). But apparently stepping down to a single badge they thought I was going to hit them more, so they use strong language to try and cut me down to size I guess. I asked why the anger over the single badge, and they explain that it's for the sum total of hits.

And that's the basic problem. If you PVP with regularity, ships get angrier the more they see your name. So one badge a week, one a day, triple badges every 12 hours, opportunistic zeroings, the fallout for me is the same in all those situations, it's just a matter of how quickly the "victims" escalate. And not that any of them are listening to this now, but calling me a bully and whatever other foul names you feel like pulling out do nothing to make me have sympathy on you or fear you and pass over your ships.

I get whiny comms occasionally, and alerts now and then, but typically that reduced them to near zero. The ones who did alert me for a badge or badging more than once a week, I would zero if possible.

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