Flux wrote:
very interesting topic.
Would it be possible to compare lvl6 pure Artifact vs lvl6 pure research?
To the above discussed: when the deficit of research point is returned thru And. Scientist - hm, the topic is in fact very complex, as till you get equil research production, you could with research base have better scanners and thus better choice of planets with nice production.
I think, the middle way will be the most beneficial to majority - start on research base stay till rank 100 min (depends on ship build and resources from planets, poor research production maybe rank 150) and then move to Artifact base.
So to specify more my question:
Would it be possible to compare lvl6 pure Artifact vs lvl6 pure research till rank 100/150?
(we can assume, that it takes 4 months due PvP focus?!)
it is not so hard, as it might seme, if you are looking at one player
problem is, theire are quite a lot of player specifik variables
how farst you rank
what planets you colonize
where or not you get a mission exotic and dyson
etc etc
but if you are looking at yourself, you know the answer to a lot off those
an estimate would be, you can get around 60-70K recearch pr day from level 6 recearch base
vs 50-60K artifact points from a level 6 artifact base
and if we presume you rank once pr day, ranks would = 100 days
then you are looking at around
6.000.000 recearch vs 5.000.000 artifact points for 100 days
if you are going for max production, 5.556.200 recearch points would give you Star Lifting
but, you would proberly have a hard time paying the cost for instaling those on your planets
so my bedst guess would be to stop at, Trans-Core Hubs (2.256.200 recerach)
if you start with production from day 1, it would "only" take you 1.756.200 / 60.000 = 29 days to get production 10 structurs
so from rank 30 or so, you would be able to put Stellar Converter, Matrioshka Brain and Stellar Replicator on your planets
on a VL planet, that could give you a base production around 30
3 * Stellar Replicator (size 17), that would leave you 6 paces for artifacts or defence
production 30, on a 2x Mega Rich = 30 * 3.5 * 2 = 210 recurces pr hour, on Extremely Rich = 30 * 2.5 * 2 = 150 recurces pr hour, and on Very Abundant = 30 * 1.5 * 2 = 90 recurces pr hour
and that is after 30 days
on the artifact base your would proberly only have Deep Scan Harmonizer or Subterranean Probes after 30 days, depending on how many recearch planets you colonized
so on a VL planet, that would be something like
5 Subterranean Probes (size 9) + Warp Gate + Processing Core + Refining Lab + Relay Tower + 2 Space Elevator Chassis (size 51) leaving 6 spaces for defence = production 20 (if you are only looking at artifacts)
production 20, on a 2x Mega Rich = 20 * 3.5 * 2 = 140 recurces pr hour, on Extremely Rich = 20 * 2.5 * 2 = 100 recurces pr hour, and on Very Abundant = 20 * 1.5 * 2 = 60 recurces pr hour
rank 30 = 8 planets, and if we presume your planets are Extremely Rich, that would give you around +50 recurces extra pr hour on all your planets = 400 recurces extra pr hour = 9.600 extra recurces pr day from planets
but again, how mutch off this is artifacts, will dependt on what planets what planets you colonize
get a mission exotic and Dyson asap, and that extra production from recearch will make quite a difrence
but if you are stuck with normal Extremely Rich or worse planets, it will take quite a long time, to get the 1.5 mil artifact points you would have gottin from spending 30 days at the artifact base, even if all the 9.600 recurces pr day was artifact points
1.500.000 / 9.600 = 156 days........
but, it will proberly be a lot less.... as every 4th day, when you have gained 4 ranks you will be able to add one more planet and increase the production gap even futher
you can extrapolate this all the way up to rank 100 if you want, and use the planets you got at low rank to give a better extimate off production
and depending on how you look at things, and your play style you might be better off at the recearch base or the artifact base
in the end, it comes down to how you like to play the game, how you want to build your ship, and where you are into PvP or just like doing NPC's and missions
but my main reason for personaly prefering to stay at a artifact base
all the ship boosts you will pick up from the artifact base, Android Scientist, Android Helmsman, Rescued Prisoners, etc etc etc, I consider those a lot more valuble than having high recearch
the problem with recearch, is it will only help you if you are actualy using the systems and structures it gives you acces to, and unless you pick up quite a lot of bots, you wont be able to install a full set off weapons, defence, hull and shield on your ship at low rank, but will in most cases be better off with battlemarked weapons Dominion Cannon / Dominion Cannon - Mark III as they have higher attack output pr deck then the weapons you have acces, so you can use the space for hull + defence
and before you upgrade your weapon systems higher then Heavy Null Ray, you will need to generate a "high" income to suport the upkeep
also if you go SSB, you wont realy need the recearch (exept production, Hull and energy), as most off your stats will simply come from crew payed for with androids, Rescued Prisoners and rank points
so my aprotch would be, get as many artifacts as posible as that help your ship. do as mutch PvP as posible to get all the battle marked items to keep your upkeep low (= needing less mining planets), and work at the kronyn chain, so you can make a few x17 colosal plasma planets as sone as posible, to get the recearch you need to upgrade your production
