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Hey all,

It has come to my attention that some people haven't been getting energy cubes in a month or longer while claiming daily rewards everyday. I was wondering if the Energy Cubes have been taken off the daily reward list, or has its drop rate been changed to certain rank level brackets or rarity or something?

I did get a couple energy cubes this month or late last month. Now I keep getting credit rewards which ultimately don't amount to much. Some players need 200+ million maintainence and the highest credit reward I've seen is only 10 million and I usually get 5 - 6 million and that 10 million probably was a lucky spike roll. I get 30 million per mineral shipment, and I get 7 - 8 full mineral shipments daily. Thats roughly 230 million credits, give / take a few million. So 10 million credits in daily reward is a piss tiny amount in comparison.

A better idea with credit rewards would be to give you an credit reward based on the average income you'd get from 3 or 4 hours worth of your current mining income. If you have 500 mining per hour, the credit reward would give you credits based on 1500 - 2000 accumulated mining points (30 million credits in my case). Then credit rewards would be well worth it.

Anyways, let us know if you have gotten energy cubes recently, or if it has been taken out of the daily reward list.


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I am at 6 energy cubes and while I can not say it's been a month since I got one; I think it has been. I can say it's been over two weeks. I use to get decent rewards but in the past two weeks I got one reward giving me decks :D and other than that insignificant amounts of credits which are a pittance compared to my daily up keep. I would almost rather have a chance at great things at my rank and get a "sorry nothing today, check back tomorrow." Of course way back when I did like the credits (I think when I started playing).

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I haven't gotten an energy cube in a while, but I do get research points quite frequently and in the past week or so I've pulled 6 or 8 rank points from it so I'm not complaining. I think you guys just have bad luck. Either way, the energy cube is supposed to be the rarest reward, probably after rank points, so you'r not supposed to get it often. I just wish we could get them from an arti shipment.


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I too havent seen an energy cube in over a month or more. i've been getting a lot of credits, mostly, some research(not often at that), i think i got a artifact for 2 decks or so, but mostly insignificant amounts of credits.

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I think I havent gotten an energy cube since The Silthion Queen started appearing. Its already bad enough that we cant get energy cubes from artifact points. but now it seems the only way to get energy refills is via the GP's

Im a player that would buy GP's for Ship Improvements that are permanent.. But buying GPs for Energy is something that I try to avoid..

It feels like the DAILY REWARDS REALLY SUCK RIGHT NOW... Its already bad enough that the credit rewards are less than 5% of our daily upkeep... but removing the best daily reward is the worst thing you can do on the daily reward... If thats the case just COMPLETELY REMOVE THE DAILY REWARDS. :x :x :x :x

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I haven't got an energy cube in a while either, and I have heard alot of people complaining about their apparent disappearance.

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Daily Reward chances have not been adjusted. Many people continue to get Energy Cubes.


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Funny to see this.. I was thinking about this very thing yesterday. I used to get a cube maybe once a week or so, recently I've noticed I haven't got one in 3-4 weeks. Many more draws are minimal credits than I had ever noticed before. I had thought for sure a recent update had changed the scaling.

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Dan I appreciate that you haven't changed the daily rewards percentages. I guess a bunch of us have had bad luck. One change I would like to see is that the daily reward give you credits equal to your daily upkeep. Now that type of reward would be worth something to every player and if you wanted you could make it a minimum amount of credits to really help/encourage those brand new players out.

Regarding encouraging brand new players maybe a special message can be placed that tells the players while they are below X rank to encourage play they get two daily rewards rolls. Also consider giving them a energy cube upon ranking 5,10,15 & 20. Maybe even go up to the rank where they are hooked. I would guess you can figure out at what rank above 20 that people drop off in playing the game. Also another good message with the very first daily reward draw would be read the wiki & beginners sub-forum on the message board. I'm just selfish - I figure the more people playing the more revenue to you Dan and the more time you'll put into this game.

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Dan I appreciate that you haven't changed the daily rewards percentages. I guess a bunch of us have had bad luck. One change I would like to see is that the daily reward give you credits equal to your daily upkeep. Now that type of reward would be worth something to every player and if you wanted you could make it a minimum amount of credits to really help/encourage those brand new players out.

Regarding encouraging brand new players maybe a special message can be placed that tells the players while they are below X rank to encourage play they get two daily rewards rolls. Also consider giving them a energy cube upon ranking 5,10,15 & 20. Maybe even go up to the rank where they are hooked. I would guess you can figure out at what rank above 20 that people drop off in playing the game. Also another good message with the very first daily reward draw would be read the wiki & beginners sub-forum on the message board. I'm just selfish - I figure the more people playing the more revenue to you Dan and the more time you'll put into this game.


+1 to tweaking the Daily Rewards.

The most important isse that everyone here has, I think, is the credits. When your ship upkeep is like 100 million credits, a 5 million credit daily reward is nothing. Also, if you have 1,000 mining points per hour income, and you can make 500 million credits daily (from 24 hours worth of accumulated mineral points) just from mineral shipments, the Daily reward credit award is like 1% of that total.

Daily rewards should be encouraging players to stay in the game, an incentive of sorts. If you get such a tiny incentive, might as well not click the Daily Rewards and forget all about it.

Simple solution: Have the Daily Reward award you the amount of credits you would normally get with 4 hours worth of your current mineral points income. So if you're making 1,000 minerals per hour, the Daily Reward would give you the average credits for "selling" 4,000 minerals.


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Daily Reward chances have not been adjusted. Many people continue to get Energy Cubes.


While I have no choice but to believe you when you say this, something is definitely amiss. Too many people are saying they have not received an energy cube in a long time. The chances may not have been changed, but something else is definitely causing a change in the rate people are receiving energy cubes.

I'm a little bit surprised Dan that you dismiss this so quickly; especially since your explanation is so terse.

I'm more inclined to believe that you've made a separate change that affects energy cubes. It would make sense if you did. Players are leveling very quickly. Easier to slow down their progression than to invent higher levels of technology and missions.

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Daily Reward chances have not been adjusted. Many people continue to get Energy Cubes.


While I have no choice but to believe you when you say this, something is definitely amiss. Too many people are saying they have not received an energy cube in a long time. The chances may not have been changed, but something else is definitely causing a change in the rate people are receiving energy cubes.

I'm a little bit surprised Dan that you dismiss this so quickly; especially since your explanation is so terse.

I'm more inclined to believe that you've made a separate change that affects energy cubes. It would make sense if you did. Players are leveling very quickly. Easier to slow down their progression than to invent higher levels of technology and missions.


I hope their is no truth in what you say. However it would be nice if those reading this thread would respond saying 'hey I just got an energy cube last week' or 'hey their is something to this, it's been a while since I got a energy cube"

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Idk about energy cubes but I just got another 2 rank points today. As far as I'm concerned I'm happy.


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no energy cube in a while but i have got quite a few rank points and RP along the way :D

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It has been a few weeks since I have gotten the all powerful sought after energy cube but I don't rely on them so I don't miss them ,that being said I would also like to see the daily reward give at least the amount it takes for daily upkeep 49k credits really doesn't cut it when your daily upkeep is over 150k then again it is all just virtual credits anyways not like you can cash out and go on a shopping spree,the extra rank points now and then are nice too .

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I got 5 GP yesterday.

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Daily Reward chances have not been adjusted. Many people continue to get Energy Cubes.


While I have no choice but to believe you when you say this, something is definitely amiss. Too many people are saying they have not received an energy cube in a long time. The chances may not have been changed, but something else is definitely causing a change in the rate people are receiving energy cubes.

I'm a little bit surprised Dan that you dismiss this so quickly; especially since your explanation is so terse.

I'm more inclined to believe that you've made a separate change that affects energy cubes. It would make sense if you did. Players are leveling very quickly. Easier to slow down their progression than to invent higher levels of technology and missions.


61,012 monthly active users, 1454 FORUM users. I'm surprised that Dan bothered replying. There's a measly 11(12 including me) people here who haven't gotten energy cube in 2+ weeks. Should Dan post statistics for you and hold your feet? He replied within a day's time, and gave an answer.

1% of users on the forum(0.02% of our total player base) are saying they haven't received energy cubes.

2 weeks is 16 rolls a month is 32. Reducing the daily reward to a binomial experiment (yes I will get an energy cube or no I won't) with a success probability of (8%?), for you to get 5 energy cubes it takes 63 rolls . Now let's get back to reality, your life sucks, and we all know 5 energy cubes every 2 months is like a dream come true. So make that 3. If you've gotten 2~3 energy cubes this month or last month... be prepared to get none for the next. And while I don't know the actual percentage of the energy cube 5~10% seems like a reasonable guess.



Dan hasn't lied to us yet, or screwed up so horrendously as to deserve this attitude you are giving him zap. It's plain outright rude, especially with the tone of your language, "no choice but to believe?". Perhaps that's not your intention but expressing your opinion in that...politically correct? way sounds very obnoxious. It's like saying "The Indignant African American" versus "Black", the former seems a whole lot ruder to my said friends than the last option.


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Raist you may have forgotten that most of us dont post unless it is something that has sparked quite an interest. I read what dan said and noticed that he said he didnt change the drop rate.

From legion comms I would say half the legion is cubeless also... that sound bout right? To me it strikes of a change, even if Dan said there wasnt. Do I believe him? Yes. However I would like to start seeing results backing up his statement myself.

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Now let's get back to reality, your life sucks..


Raist, you have misinterpreted my post. I'm stating the facts as I see them. Injecting spite where there is none speaks only of your own distorted perspective.

Though I do appreciate the numbers you have provided, you have failed to consider the obvious: Why are so many posters AND legion members saying that they are receiving less energy cubes than normal?

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Now let's get back to reality, your life sucks..


Raist, you have misinterpreted my post. I'm stating the facts as I see them. Injecting spite where there is none speaks only of your own distorted perspective.

Though I do appreciate the numbers you have provided, you have failed to consider the obvious: Why are so many posters AND legion members saying that they are receiving less energy cubes than normal?



Mass hysteria? I haven't seen one in two weeks either BTW.

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