Best Passive Cloak Option
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Chloron
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 1513
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I've been working to max passive cloak on my best planets from Interspacial Fold Generators from Fab drops for quite some time and wondering what people think about the ratio of those to Magnetosphere Chargers (from battle market). The Chart: Code: Interspacial Fold Generator. . Magnetosphere Charger . . . . Final Passive Cloak . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . 12. . . . . . . . . . . . 3892 . . . . . . . 22 . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . 3848 . . . . . . . 25 . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . 3892 . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . 3892 . . . . . . . 31 . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . 3856 The first one gives the same cloak, but the cost of Chargers is too high. That being said, what to other players prefer, the 25/4 or the 28/3?
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Tue May 07, 2013 10:36 pm |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3 =900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897
JUST SAYING
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Wed May 08, 2013 1:03 am |
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eternalpaw
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:31 pm Posts: 471
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Uy23e wrote: IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3 =900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897
JUST SAYING I'm amazed that you took the time to figure out all the possible combinations in order to compute which combination provided the best outcome. How many possible combinations are there?
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Wed May 08, 2013 1:35 am |
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Chloron
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 1513
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Uy23e wrote: IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3 =900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897
JUST SAYING Just saying that you should spend an extra Charger for 5 more passive cloak? It looks like you're using 25 IFGs and 5 Chargers, I don't know that it's worth it.
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Wed May 08, 2013 1:59 am |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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Chloron wrote: Uy23e wrote: IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3 =900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897
JUST SAYING Just saying that you should spend an extra Charger for 5 more passive cloak? It looks like you're using 27 IFGs and 5 Chargers, I don't know that it's worth it. Fix that for you No it's not and I use 25/4 usually, sometimes if I am tired and over click I do 28/3
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ICBLF
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:52 pm Posts: 1663 Location: where the dead ships dwell
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Wed May 08, 2013 2:12 am |
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Uy23e
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am Posts: 1998
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Chloron wrote: Uy23e wrote: IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3 =900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897
JUST SAYING Just saying that you should spend an extra Charger for 5 more passive cloak? It looks like you're using 25 IFGs and 5 Chargers, I don't know that it's worth it. IFG*19 1900 MC*2 2404 IFG*4 2804 MC*3 3897 there, that saves 2 IFG. eternalpaw wrote: Uy23e wrote: IFG*9, MC, IFG, MC, IFG*15, MC*3 =900, 1040, 1140, 1304, 2804, 3897
JUST SAYING I'm amazed that you took the time to figure out all the possible combinations in order to compute which combination provided the best outcome. How many possible combinations are there? No, I didn't. I reverse engineered it. I desired a certain end number so I manipulate MC in such a way that it generate it. By stuffing IFG in the middle I can then manipulate the tenth digit number. I'm not sure if this one would work, because I'm not entirely sure how IFG acts. IFG 20: 2000 MC: 2250 IFG: 2350 MC: 2635 IFG 5: 3135 <can this be done? using IFG at 3035 to push over 3135? MC 2: 3899 25 IFG 4 MC this one. EDIT: tested and the answer is no to 3899.... sadly 3898 is impossible because 3134 leads to 97 and 35 was proven impossible just now(cause 2804 generate 3134 and 2805 generate 3136 which leads to 3500, so MC can't make 3135 neither and IFG wont let u)
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Wed May 08, 2013 2:13 am |
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Toastar
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 4:45 am Posts: 1338
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Honestly, I just do 31 IFG and 2 MC's. It's only 40 cloak less optimal than other methods, and it means I can use more dark badges on Quantum Accelerators, which also provide cloak and AP.
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Wed May 08, 2013 8:42 pm |
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KJReed
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:08 am Posts: 3142
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Toastar wrote: Honestly, I just do 31 IFG and 2 MC's. It's only 40 cloak less optimal than other methods, and it means I can use more dark badges on Quantum Accelerators, which also provide cloak and AP. Same.
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Wed May 08, 2013 8:59 pm |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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Toastar wrote: Honestly, I just do 31 IFG and 2 MC's. It's only 40 cloak less optimal than other methods, and it means I can use more dark badges on Quantum Accelerators, which also provide cloak and AP. To be fair you are not much of a NPCer, dark badges are not in excess for you. Non-Player Kills 86991 Same Non-Player Kills 29148 I have over 3k dark badges and can easily gain another 3k, I have accelerators on undefended planets. Just to put your opinions in perspective.
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Wed May 08, 2013 9:49 pm |
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Toastar
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 4:45 am Posts: 1338
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Dude, you're one of the most active people in the entire game. EVERYBODY is 'not much of an NPCer' in comparison. Most people don't play as much as either one of us, so Dark Badges are not unlimited for them.
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Thu May 09, 2013 3:41 am |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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Toastar wrote: Dude, you're one of the most active people in the entire game. EVERYBODY is 'not much of an NPCer' in comparison. Most people don't play as much as either one of us, so Dark Badges are not unlimited for them. you have one of the lowest NPC counts in the legion. It's not a bad thing just a fact, others NPC more than you and have access to more dark badges because of it. Spending an extra 120 dark badges for 2-3 folders might be worth it for them, but not to you.
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Thu May 09, 2013 4:12 am |
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Chloron
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:47 pm Posts: 1513
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Wolfy Minion wrote: you have one of the lowest NPC counts in the legion. It's not a bad thing just a fact, others NPC more than you and have access to more dark badges because of it. Spending an extra 120 dark badges for 2-3 folders might be worth it for them, but not to you. So what is your suggestion then for those who don't npc as much?
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Thu May 09, 2013 12:23 pm |
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Spaceman
Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:30 pm Posts: 903
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Chloron wrote: Wolfy Minion wrote: you have one of the lowest NPC counts in the legion. It's not a bad thing just a fact, others NPC more than you and have access to more dark badges because of it. Spending an extra 120 dark badges for 2-3 folders might be worth it for them, but not to you. So what is your suggestion then for those who don't npc as much? Suggest Dan add dark badges to the GP market
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Thu May 09, 2013 12:26 pm |
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Wolfy Minion
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:16 am Posts: 2737
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Chloron wrote: Wolfy Minion wrote: you have one of the lowest NPC counts in the legion. It's not a bad thing just a fact, others NPC more than you and have access to more dark badges because of it. Spending an extra 120 dark badges for 2-3 folders might be worth it for them, but not to you. So what is your suggestion then for those who don't npc as much? Use his method of 31 IFG +2 MC or if you are patient and want the extra 36 cloak 28+3. Those who do NPC a lot and get a lot of badges can use the more dark badge heavy recipes.
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Thu May 09, 2013 1:47 pm |
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Cendant
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:49 pm Posts: 687
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I'm a big fan of the 25 IFG +4 MC combo
too many planets to cloak and not enough IFGs
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Thu May 09, 2013 5:10 pm |
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Clangeddin
Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 12:46 pm Posts: 292
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I tend to go 25/4 as well usually by the time I have 25 ifg I tend to have around 750 badges.. which conveniently is enough for 4 mc and two accelerators..
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Fri May 10, 2013 8:34 pm |
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failname
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:13 am Posts: 1695
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Cendant wrote: I'm a big fan of the 25 IFG +4 MC combo
too many planets to cloak and not enough IFGs
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Sat May 11, 2013 2:35 am |
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SodSwym
Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:59 pm Posts: 162
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I mainly use the 25/4, but since I only really use darks for cloak, I end up having to do 9/12 to balance it out.
M.Sphere = 120 darks. You get about 97 darks per fab drop (not including other people's alerts), so 2,425/120 ~ 20 M.Sphere per 25 fabs. Even with 2 of the other dark badge item per planet you are cloaking, you're still running a surplus.
What's not discussed is the relic badge included in the sequence. +250 usable up to 5000 passive. You'd want to hit some multiple of 250 minus 1 to get close to 5249. With the default build we are mostly using , you'd get 5142 at the end.
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Tue May 21, 2013 7:13 am |
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Cendant
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:49 pm Posts: 687
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SodSwym wrote: I mainly use the 25/4, but since I only really use darks for cloak, I end up having to do 9/12 to balance it out.
M.Sphere = 120 darks. You get about 97 darks per fab drop (not including other people's alerts), so 2,425/120 ~ 20 M.Sphere per 25 fabs. Even with 2 of the other dark badge item per planet you are cloaking, you're still running a surplus.
What's not discussed is the relic badge included in the sequence. +250 usable up to 5000 passive. You'd want to hit some multiple of 250 minus 1 to get close to 5249. With the default build we are mostly using , you'd get 5142 at the end. I'll think about that in 2 years when I have vortov ranked to 100 and omniforges on all my good planets
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Tue May 21, 2013 2:29 pm |
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