Ship Strength to Rank Ratio
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snapdragon
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25.6 at rank 89 (unbuffed) not bad, i think..
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:48 am |
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PotatoJedi
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I'm at around 46.99 Rank 232.
10.19 second formula.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:10 pm |
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senatorhung
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:09 am Posts: 3473
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summarizing from this topic and info gleaned for my showdown topic: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=33029i use 'attack strength' for the standard strength formula of (attack + defense) / rank i use 'defense strength' for sumwunn's formula of: (((attack+defense+hull+shields)/damage cap)/rank)*100=ship strength ratio here's a sample of 22 pilots for your analyzing pleasure: 
_________________Rank 3950 Litheor Governor 100% DCR r385-r2200 GL Marauder #26 _____________ PvP leaderboards: 70212 raids: #1; 40852 kills: #1; 96377 hacks: #3;
Last edited by senatorhung on Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:04 pm |
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Aliste
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:06 pm Posts: 487
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I don't understand it :/ But it's cool seeing my name on a graph, so ok (:
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asdfgr
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I dont see mine!!!!!!!!!!! Can u add mine, ill pm u my stats if yes.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:47 am |
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chiaroscuro
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senatorhung wrote: http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/4479/glcompare20shipsstength.png omg! I'm in pink!  Very cool, senatorhung. Elerian's ship is crazy o.O
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:31 am |
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senatorhung
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Aliste wrote: I don't understand it :/ But it's cool seeing my name on a graph, so ok (: basically ships that are focusing on SSB and damage cap will appear higher up on the defense strength bar, while glass cannons that focus on attack without defense will appear as glass cannons on the bottom right ... however, the higher the rank, the more tendency to drift down to the bottom right, so someone like mento is far far away from being a glass cannon (plus his datapoint is from months ago). elerian looks to be in the best shape ... very high attack strength for his rank, while also very high defense strength ... likely due to slow ranking. chiaroscuro is a better at maximizing the benefit of the ssb on defense, but has not yet had the arti production to boost attack strength as much via tactical officers. so, taking this chart into consideration with the other comparison charts that i have done in the ship log showdown: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=33029indicates that slow-ranking has its place if you are looking to be defensive-minded, but less so if you are attack-minded. defense helps those who are still pvp-ing at lower ranks, but attack is much better for those at higher ranks, so you can see the trend from top-left to bottom-right, with higher ranked players tending to drift downwards diagonally. and in response to asdfgr's query, pm's will be ignored (especially since i have you forum-blocked), but also from anyone else. these charts all just use publicly available information. if you are not willing to share with the community, i'm not interested in using your data. the charts that i have put up will allow you to see how you are doing in comparison to others ... to me, that is enough. and to chia: yeah, i wasn't sure if you would like it or be offended, but i'm glad you like it  i adjusted some of the datapoints - green hulk for Golgotha, rusty-coloured square for RustyTinCan, orange for Firekas, blue and white for JediPotato (infinity colours), triangle for atlas, star shape for Nova149, etc. couldn't personalize everyone, but i did fiddle with it. i also just added some more lines to the chart (since log charts in excel are finicky with axis labels) so that relative values were more clear. so, other than more pilots on the chart, what else would folks like to see ?
_________________Rank 3950 Litheor Governor 100% DCR r385-r2200 GL Marauder #26 _____________ PvP leaderboards: 70212 raids: #1; 40852 kills: #1; 96377 hacks: #3;
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:00 am |
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Km4cK2
Joined: Fri May 25, 2012 5:02 am Posts: 92
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Very interesting senatorhung.
Strength: 35.97 Defensive Strength: 6.23
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:52 am |
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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senatorhung wrote: Aliste wrote: I don't understand it :/ But it's cool seeing my name on a graph, so ok (: basically ships that are focusing on SSB and damage cap will appear higher up on the defense strength bar, while glass cannons that focus on attack without defense will appear as glass cannons on the bottom right ... however, the higher the rank, the more tendency to drift down to the bottom right, so someone like mento is far far away from being a glass cannon (plus his datapoint is from months ago). elerian looks to be in the best shape ... very high attack strength for his rank, while also very high defense strength ... likely due to slow ranking. chiaroscuro is a better at maximizing the benefit of the ssb on defense, but has not yet had the arti production to boost attack strength as much via tactical officers. so, taking this chart into consideration with the other comparison charts that i have done in the ship log showdown: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=33029indicates that slow-ranking has its place if you are looking to be defensive-minded, but less so if you are attack-minded. defense helps those who are still pvp-ing at lower ranks, but attack is much better for those at higher ranks, so you can see the trend from top-left to bottom-right, with higher ranked players tending to drift downwards diagonally. and in response to asdfgr's query, pm's will be ignored (especially since i have you forum-blocked), but also from anyone else. these charts all just use publicly available information. if you are not willing to share with the community, i'm not interested in using your data. the charts that i have put up will allow you to see how you are doing in comparison to others ... to me, that is enough. and to chia: yeah, i wasn't sure if you would like it or be offended, but i'm glad you like it  i adjusted some of the datapoints - green hulk for Golgotha, rusty-coloured square for RustyTinCan, orange for Firekas, blue and white for JediPotato (infinity colours), triangle for atlas, star shape for Nova149, etc. couldn't personalize everyone, but i did fiddle with it. i also just added some more lines to the chart (since log charts in excel are finicky with axis labels) so that relative values were more clear so, other than more pilots on the chart, what else would folks like to see ? what stats would you like for us to post to be added to the chart?
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Km4cK2
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@Varun: He's posting the strength/rank and sumwunn's new version of how difficult you are to disable (or that's how I'd describe it).
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varunjitsingh146
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:11 am Posts: 5495 Location: Alpha Legion 100
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Km4cK2 wrote: @Varun: He's posting the strength/rank and sumwunn's new version of how difficult you are to disable (or that's how I'd describe it). So post our ratios using sumwunns formula?
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:17 am |
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senatorhung
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Km4cK2 wrote: Very interesting senatorhung.
Strength: 35.97 Defensive Strength: 6.23 thanks. looks like you would slot in just between PaulHsiao and Firekas. if enough people post that are in less-occupied portions of the chart, i will make an update, but the way it is, it should be easy for folks to compare, even if they are shy.
_________________Rank 3950 Litheor Governor 100% DCR r385-r2200 GL Marauder #26 _____________ PvP leaderboards: 70212 raids: #1; 40852 kills: #1; 96377 hacks: #3;
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:23 am |
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Aliste
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:06 pm Posts: 487
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senatorhung wrote: basically ships that are focusing on SSB and damage cap will appear higher up on the defense strength bar, while glass cannons that focus on attack without defense will appear as glass cannons on the bottom right ... however, the higher the rank, the more tendency to drift down to the bottom right, so someone like mento is far far away from being a glass cannon (plus his datapoint is from months ago). Oh ok, I get it now (:
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:59 am |
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3NVYBBX
Joined: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:40 pm Posts: 2
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attk strength: 39.59 def strength: 57.48
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:51 am |
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senatorhung
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:09 am Posts: 3473
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BabyX and Km4cK2 added to make 24 pilots: 
_________________Rank 3950 Litheor Governor 100% DCR r385-r2200 GL Marauder #26 _____________ PvP leaderboards: 70212 raids: #1; 40852 kills: #1; 96377 hacks: #3;
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:27 am |
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Chandler007
Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:01 am Posts: 21
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I knew Elerian would be such a strong ship quite a long time ago. Elerian was posting about getting some awesome natural dysons and was rifting them... lucky. I would like to see the black pearl on here sometime soon... I am not yet ready, but I would also be interested in adding my name on there. 
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TimeManipulator
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:13 pm Posts: 2711 Location: Somewhere trying to find a way to increase the use of Time Manipulators.
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1.0 - 60.47 2.0 - 10.23
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:00 am |
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Drone
Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:55 pm Posts: 157
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48 here  use 2 be more but this new daly mission made me add a lot of Engineers lately
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:32 am |
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elerian
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:25 am Posts: 2360 Location: New York
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senatorhung wrote: elerian looks to be in the best shape woohoo  orignal formula 74.4 new formula 7.6 new mission chain is taking it's toll, gonna miss the 30k unbuffed attack at rank 454 most like :/ oh well, thats why its a rank 500 goal.
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Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:29 pm |
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senatorhung
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elerian wrote: senatorhung wrote: elerian looks to be in the best shape woohoo  orignal formula 74.4 new formula 7.6 oops, looks like i screwed up there in copying data columns over. sorry elerian, you are not as good as you were made out to be ... but you are still the highest attack strength pilot on the chart who is still active. here is the latest chart with updates from Rusty, elerian (corrected) and myself: 
_________________Rank 3950 Litheor Governor 100% DCR r385-r2200 GL Marauder #26 _____________ PvP leaderboards: 70212 raids: #1; 40852 kills: #1; 96377 hacks: #3;
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