Now up to a ratio of 50 at rank 407, aiming for a ratio of another 5 every 50 ranks

having an energy cap of 2100 has its perks Though this new mission chain has peaked my interest and I need to finish Trellith as well as Talitherian so ive got some stuff ahead of me

Now at 295, 38 Unbuffed, can buff up to 50...

Well, at least it increased...

Haha! I spoke too soon, with this special mission "Fleeting Aspect", look like I gonna be delaying my plan

Your not the only one

im at 47 rank 761 .. lots of rank jumping, lacking 2 defense mods, no race bonus, and downgraded quasis to thets

Hmm, been a while since I saw this...

Rank 227 / 30
Rank 267 / 35

Rank 380 / 40.6

At rank 189, I am up to 19.5 strength:rank (with konqul buff). Hoping I'll break 20 this weekend
strength:rank = 24.9 when I have weapons installed

There are some rather impressive ship strength to rank ratios posted in this thread. However I can't seem to see it any other way than the current formula to give us that ratio is flawed. The current formula only takes into account attack, defense and rank. Sure these are three important parts of a strong ship but it completely leaves out other parts that are just as important. As it is now hull, shields and damage cap. Which are obviously just as important to ship strength as defense and attack are. I would think that this would be most unfair to SSBs as they really don't install many attack or def mods and instead rely on hull, shields and an insanely low damage cap to give them their strength. Anyone could simply pump up their strength/rank ratio (as well as their e-peen) by uninstalling items that don't have counting stats and add more attack or defense items than they would normally have on their ship. This is certainly not a true representation of how strong their ship is compared to anyone else especially to a SSB. Is a ship of the same rank that prioritizes attack and defense really stronger than a ship with a bit less attack, equal defense, smaller damage cap and a lot more hull and shielding?

So I propose that we do away with the old ratio of (att+def)/rank. We need a new formula, one that includes all aspects of ship strength.

(((attack+defense+hull+shields)/damage cap)/rank)*100=ship strength ratio

under the old system I have a strength rank ratio of 54.6.
new formula: (((10626+8309+12716+4668)1078)/345)*100=9.76

Why did I multiply it by 100? Well who wants to say their ship has a strength of zero point something.
Some people may argue that energy should also be included. I didn't for the following example. If a person is offline and being attacked they will be spending zero energy to defend. For each time 5 energy is spent in the attack each ship attacks and defends once. So in my view energy is equal and irrelevant.

So what do you guys think of this? I have only thrown this together in the last 20 minutes so I am sure it can be improved upon, but certainly the old formula needs to be improved upon also. Feel free to nitpick, flame, improve or maybe even agree with what I have put up.

Looks pretty good.
Ratio according to old formula: 36.74
Ratio according to new formula by Flesh: [((4166+5901+11187+1320)/756)/274]*100=10.9

whats the damage cap formula? i cant find it on the wiki.

(Rank +19)/2 or decks/2

Whichever is greater.

thanks

at rank 192:

1.0: 20.25
2.0: 69.09

heh...

SSB you so silly

i think your formula needs a bit of work.

The best approximation of ship strength would have to incorporate average damage taken during a battle (against ships of similar rank) and the amount of hits it takes to kill. There's no clear way to do this given the range of ship builds on found on the battle tab.

Use of both formulas is useful, however, since the first gives an indication of how much damage a ship could do and the second gives information about how much energy it could take to disable.

While I am sure the formula could use a bit of work I don't think her changed ratio is indicative of that. Her ship is a SSB and a rather strong one too. The original strength/rank formula for the reasons I stated in the original post horribly undervalues how strong of a ship SSBs are. While the jump from 20 to 69 is rather large I think 69 is probably a more realistic depiction of her ship strength. Remember her ratio of 69 is to be compared to ships at her rank range not ships a few hundred ranks above.